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Old 05-22-2005, 08:05 AM
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Angry What in the Hell am I doing wrong with SD Tuning???

I logged a 40 min run normal driving ,speed up ,slow down,rev motor at lights ect...I copied my Histogram to my VE Table and no Change,so I did it again and No Change???I set my MAF Fail Freq to 0 and my LTFT's are still really bad.Well I shouldnt say no change because my lower rpm LTFT's changed a little not to Neg at Idle now ,But driving down the road I am still seeing -12% LTFT's?You Should see my VE Table ,It looks like the Rocky Mountains,I tried to smooth it out ,maybe thats what I am doing wrong?I dunno.I wish I could put my Histogram on here for you guys to see ,but I dont know how....
21 20 10 15 14 30 23 38 41 46 48 48 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46
21 23 25 28 32 25 28 32 36 52 55 57 58 58 59 59 59 59 59 59
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22 27 32 36 37 40 45 48 49 55 78 83 86 87 87 87 87 87 87 87
20 27 34 38 42 42 49 54 52 73 79 84 87 88 88 88 88 88 88 88
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Above is my VE Table after copy and Paste from Histogram
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it's a 99, you need to copy these values to both primary and secondary?

the easiest way is to work with the primary table, but then to click on the 20,30,40... headers on the left side of the histogram, copy it row by row and paste onto the secondary graph. kinda sucks, but it's not too bad.

another way is to have a spreadsheet that will give you two outputs, so then it's just straight copy'n'paste two different tables.
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Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
it's a 99, you need to copy these values to both primary and secondary?

the easiest way is to work with the primary table, but then to click on the 20,30,40... headers on the left side of the histogram, copy it row by row and paste onto the secondary graph. kinda sucks, but it's not too bad.

another way is to have a spreadsheet that will give you two outputs, so then it's just straight copy'n'paste two different tables.
It is a 99,I did Both Primary and Secondary VE Tables.You know though,I only had to hit the smooth button 2 times to make it look good with my new run today,Yesterdays run I had to hit the smooth button the max number of times to smooth it out.Maybe I am making progress?
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ok...then did you reset the fuel trims after modifying the tables?
if you got aim or yahooIM, just chat me up, we'll fix it in no time.
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dont hit the smooth that much! you only want to smooth it one or two times. and after you smooth the primary copy those numbers to the secondary
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
dont hit the smooth that much! you only want to smooth it one or two times. and after you smooth the primary copy those numbers to the secondary
Yes ,This time I only hit smooth 2 times and it now looks pretty good
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ok cool
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if u need some more help on this get a log and send me the current tune u use, budchevy358@yahoo.com and ill try to help, another guy just had the same problems and i was able to see some things that were off in the tune. so if u need more help or a second eye to look it over just send it over to me
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
if u need some more help on this get a log and send me the current tune u use, budchevy358@yahoo.com and ill try to help, another guy just had the same problems and i was able to see some things that were off in the tune. so if u need more help or a second eye to look it over just send it over to me
Ok Cool Thanks!
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Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
ok...then did you reset the fuel trims after modifying the tables?
if you got aim or yahooIM, just chat me up, we'll fix it in no time.
I may Take you on on this this evening or latter afternoon,I am at work now,I am going to try to log this new VE and see where it sits now,I hope I am getting somewhereThanks!
Scott
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Ok Guys I have finally got It!!!Please see my post I am Geeked
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Originally Posted by Pro Mouse
Ok Guys I have finally got It!!!Please see my post I am Geeked

Glad to hear it. Out of curiosity, what was the problem?




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