Northwest Members - WHEW!!! Finally made it.

Ok, so I rolled into town Friday evening and WTF????? It is like 85 flippin degrees. :cry: I thought I left that crappy heat down south.....but thank God it cooled off yesterday and today is even better. I told God I wanted a nice cool, overcast day for my B-Day and here it is. :nod:

So, it is official, although I am crashing with family till I find a place I like/want, I am here. Let's :chug: & :drive:.......not one right after the other though. ;) :cool:


BTW, my car was horrendously noisy on the drive up here, and after checking out a few things, it would appear to be the rear end (stock 10-bolt) making a lotta noise. Is this a warranty thing (I still have 4 months and/or 6k miles) or am I just hosed or can I let it go for a while? The car has 29,900 on her so far.......

Any help would be most appreciated. The car is available for rides for anyone who doesn't wanna try to diagnose non-specific whining/growling/drone from the ass end of the car.

One more thing....I think there ought to be a law about those fuggin huge chunks of tires from semi's that are left in the raod as they peel off any one of the 18 wheels on those beasts. In Weed, CA (about 40 miles from Oregon) I came around a blind curve in the dark (there are no lights on the 5 fwy in that area) and smacked the crap outta one of those retread things in the middle on my lane. :( :bang: :cry: Did a small number on the paint and God knows what else on the pass side front end.

Glad you made it. Too bad it wasn't unscathed. I was dodging those retreads yesterday too. Weed, CA? Are you kidding? Must be a happy place!

So are we gonna see ya at hooters tonight for the bikini contest?

I would get that rearend checked asap. I took mine to Kirkland Pontiac a couple months ago cuz it's howling. They said "normal". When I was greasing my lca's and panhard bar the other day I noticed a nice slinging ring of rear end fluid from my pinion seal all over my torque arm and everywhere else. I'm going to call and read them the riot act. I'm going to try the dealership in smokey point and see how their service dept is.

Congrats on making it! Man I was in Centrelia shooting pool last night you should have stopped on the way up :)

<PERK> Bikini contest???????? :drool:

What time? I am going out with my folks for a few hours right now, but I will be back later. :D

As for my rear end, well, the car's rear anyway, I had the rear pinion seal replaced once under warranty already about 15k ago.........and I did notice a slight leak in the bottom of the rear end cover about 2 weeks ago, but it isn't even dripping on the ground, just barely seeping out of the case.........let me know how it goes with that dealership cuz I am afraid I am going to have to do something SOON. :(

Hey welcome finally... ;)

If you do need some work on the rear end but can't get it warrantied through the dealer, let me know... I know a guy who actually does a damn good job on the rear ends and doesn't cost a whole lot of money.

You can also switch to a little thicker of a gear oil which would help cushion the gears a little better... the 10 bolt can use all the help it can get. I used to use Redline's ShockProof gear oil when I had a 10 bolt, but Amsoil also makes a Severe Duty (same type as Redline's ShockProof) gear oil that is really good as well. Since I have a 12 bolt however, I can't use synthetic since only conventional gear oil is recommended with the Eaton HD posi I have.

Mine does whine as well, but that's the nature of the 12 bolt beast when you've got 4.11s, and are launching at 6k rpms on slicks. ;)

Glad you made it! Happy b day! :D

<PERK> Bikini contest???????? :drool:

What time? I am going out with my folks for a few hours right now, but I will be back later. :D

As for my rear end, well, the car's rear anyway, I had the rear pinion seal replaced once under warranty already about 15k ago.........and I did notice a slight leak in the bottom of the rear end cover about 2 weeks ago, but it isn't even dripping on the ground, just barely seeping out of the case.........let me know how it goes with that dealership cuz I am afraid I am going to have to do something SOON. :(


Happy birthday... Bikini contest is at 8 at the hooters in lynnwood. We'll also be up at the show on colby ave in everett for a bit this afternoon.

Bout damn time you got here! See you at Hooters tonight....6:00 until_____

Ok, so I rolled into town Friday evening and WTF????? It is like 85 flippin degrees. :cry: I thought I left that crappy heat down south.....but thank God it cooled off yesterday and today is even better. I told God I wanted a nice cool, overcast day for my B-Day and here it is. :nod:

So, it is official, although I am crashing with family till I find a place I like/want, I am here. Let's :chug: & :drive:.......not one right after the other though. ;) :cool:


BTW, my car was horrendously noisy on the drive up here, and after checking out a few things, it would appear to be the rear end (stock 10-bolt) making a lotta noise. Is this a warranty thing (I still have 4 months and/or 6k miles) or am I just hosed or can I let it go for a while? The car has 29,900 on her so far.......

Any help would be most appreciated. The car is available for rides for anyone who doesn't wanna try to diagnose non-specific whining/growling/drone from the ass end of the car.

One more thing....I think there ought to be a law about those fuggin huge chunks of tires from semi's that are left in the raod as they peel off any one of the 18 wheels on those beasts. In Weed, CA (about 40 miles from Oregon) I came around a blind curve in the dark (there are no lights on the 5 fwy in that area) and smacked the crap outta one of those retread things in the middle on my lane. :( :bang: :cry: Did a small number on the paint and God knows what else on the pass side front end.
Glad you made it safely. I was just sitting here wondering about you.(Ran out of people to pick on was the main reason :jest: J/k)

To bad that did not happen in washington you hitting the tires on the road.
My understanding if you stop and call state or county and make a report of it the state/county will pay the damage(under 1000) anything else you have to sue em.

As far the the noisy rear end.I had that same problem around 30k ,It turned out to be the Differential I now have 50k on that rearend just waiting for it to drop then we are going to stuff a 12 bolt under that thing.In your case If it turns out to be the diff.Then don't go with a stock zexel unit go with a auburn or a something along those lines...Get with 2fast4love(ellis).He can Inspect it and tell you where to take it(Northwest differential I think)

Glad you made it man! Sounds like things were a little nasty on the way.

I am going to bet they did not take the rear end apart like they should have when they did the seal. so when they tightened it back up after installing the new seal it started to take out the Pinion bearings. i see this on a regular basis from the dealer idiots. It is all about getting it done as fast as they can and making a buck. they often times could care less about customer satisfaction.

The Good News is you are still under warranty and they have to patch it back together for free ;)

Go to Kirkland Pontiac and have the work done. they are one of the better dealers around. At least you do not have a Checvy. I have yet to find a decent Chevy dealer in this area.

Glad you made it man and Happy Birthday!

Glad you made it. Too bad it wasn't unscathed. I was dodging those retreads yesterday too. Weed, CA? Are you kidding? Must be a happy place!

So are we gonna see ya at hooters tonight for the bikini contest?

I would get that rearend checked asap. I took mine to Kirkland Pontiac a couple months ago cuz it's howling. They said "normal". When I was greasing my lca's and panhard bar the other day I noticed a nice slinging ring of rear end fluid from my pinion seal all over my torque arm and everywhere else. I'm going to call and read them the riot act. I'm going to try the dealership in smokey point and see how their service dept is.

I wouldn't recomend the Smokey Point Pontiac dealership, they did warranty work a couple times on my T/A and did a terrible job, they left vacuum lines off, cooling fans barely mounted, plug wire rubbing on P/S pulley and wires laying on the exhaust manifold. They were real pricks about fixing their mistakes. Dwayne Lane Chevy in Arlington did a much better job .

Happy Birthday! I hope you had a good one! :cheers:

I'm glad you finally made it up here, and you made it relatively safely...as long as the car isn't too hurt..I hate when that happens! :judge:

Anyway, hope to meet you soon!

Hey welcome finally... ;)

If you do need some work on the rear end but can't get it warrantied through the dealer, let me know... I know a guy who actually does a damn good job on the rear ends and doesn't cost a whole lot of money.

You can also switch to a little thicker of a gear oil which would help cushion the gears a little better... the 10 bolt can use all the help it can get. I used to use Redline's ShockProof gear oil when I had a 10 bolt, but Amsoil also makes a Severe Duty (same type as Redline's ShockProof) gear oil that is really good as well. Since I have a 12 bolt however, I can't use synthetic since only conventional gear oil is recommended with the Eaton HD posi I have.

Mine does whine as well, but that's the nature of the 12 bolt beast when you've got 4.11s, and are launching at 6k rpms on slicks. ;)
Thanks, it is good to finally be up here after wanting to do it for 2-3 years or more. As for my car's rear end, I will start looking into warranty/dealer work in the next week. If nothing pans out, you and/or Ellis will be my first calls. ;)

My buddy put a 12 bolt in his 'Hawk and it whines as well, with 3.73's, but like you say, that is normal. This is a whine/growl/groan that is so friggin loud that even at 60 with the windows up and the A/C on low, I had to strain to hear my passenger talk......for 1200 miles.
Glad you made it! Happy b day! :D
Thanks. :) Looking forward to seeing that bling-mobile of yours. :nod:
Happy birthday... Bikini contest is at 8 at the hooters in lynnwood. We'll also be up at the show on colby ave in everett for a bit this afternoon.
Thanks amigo. :) Bikini contest was :drool: My neck hurts sooo bad from snapping around to see all the gorgeous hunnies running around in little and/or skin tight clothes. :D Were you there and I just didn't realize it or did you not make it? I am learning the faces of you guys up here, just working on getting the names down with them........
Bout damn time you got here! See you at Hooters tonight....6:00 until_____
Was good seeing you again Mark..........and a great place to do it at as well. ;)
Glad you made it safely. I was just sitting here wondering about you.(Ran out of people to pick on was the main reason J/k)

To bad that did not happen in washington you hitting the tires on the road.
My understanding if you stop and call state or county and make a report of it the state/county will pay the damage(under 1000) anything else you have to sue em.

As far the the noisy rear end.I had that same problem around 30k ,It turned out to be the Differential I now have 50k on that rearend just waiting for it to drop then we are going to stuff a 12 bolt under that thing.In your case If it turns out to be the diff.Then don't go with a stock zexel unit go with a auburn or a something along those lines...Get with 2fast4love(ellis).He can Inspect it and tell you where to take it(Northwest differential I think)
Aaahhh i was waiting for some verbal abuse from you. ;) Yeah, in Cali unless you see an object fall off a vehicle AND get the plate, nothing is going to happen with regard to helping me get my car fixed. And the roadways were littered with chunks of tires that had "fallen" off big rigs. :mad:

My buddy's Hawk came with the Auburn diff and he demolished it with normal everyday driving.........I had heard they weren't really any better then the stock ones we got.

I think my best bet will be to try a dealer or three and then get with Ellis or Tranzor to see what I can do.

Bye bye money.
Glad you made it man! Sounds like things were a little nasty on the way.

I am going to bet they did not take the rear end apart like they should have when they did the seal. so when they tightened it back up after installing the new seal it started to take out the Pinion bearings. i see this on a regular basis from the dealer idiots. It is all about getting it done as fast as they can and making a buck. they often times could care less about customer satisfaction.

The Good News is you are still under warranty and they have to patch it back together for free ;)

Go to Kirkland Pontiac and have the work done. they are one of the better dealers around. At least you do not have a Checvy. I have yet to find a decent Chevy dealer in this area.

Glad you made it man and Happy Birthday!
Thanks Ellis, I feel a little better about it........one question though with regard to Warranty coverage. I have a TA girdle (Summit's version) on the rear end but it has been there since before they did the original rear pinion seal repair. Do you think they will try to jack me over that being the cause or will I be ok?

I will give Kirkland Pontiac a call.........thank God my folks are going on vacation at the end of the week and I can use their cars while mine is getting fixed.
I wouldn't recomend the Smokey Point Pontiac dealership, they did warranty work a couple times on my T/A and did a terrible job, they left vacuum lines off, cooling fans barely mounted, plug wire rubbing on P/S pulley and wires laying on the exhaust manifold. They were real pricks about fixing their mistakes. Dwayne Lane Chevy in Arlington did a much better job .
My Mother takes her car (Chrysler :barf: ) to Dwayne Lane Chrysler and she seems to be comfortable with them....dunno if they are the same at the Chevy place. It sounds like you had a number done to your car at Smokey point, sorry. :(
Happy Birthday! I hope you had a good one! :cheers:

I'm glad you finally made it up here, and you made it relatively safely...as long as the car isn't too hurt..I hate when that happens! :judge:

Anyway, hope to meet you soon!
Thanks hon, I am soooooooo glad to be up here, even if I am "camping out" till my stuff arrives and I decide where I wanna live up here. It still beats "Hell A". ;) The car is ok, just had some paint removed on the front plastic "bumper" all the way down to the yellow. :( There is some dings on the undercarraige but that doesn't phase me any. Could always be worse.

I am looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the gang as well too. :)

I'm looking forward to meeting you as well Rott, you've been posting here so long I feel like a already know you :) See ya at the track ?

Thanks amigo. :) Bikini contest was :drool: My neck hurts sooo bad from snapping around to see all the gorgeous hunnies running around in little and/or skin tight clothes. :D Were you there and I just didn't realize it or did you not make it? I am learning the faces of you guys up here, just working on getting the names down with them........


I stopped by briefly but had some other plans. And jill wasn't in the contest so I didn't bother. I ended up going to canyon's with a few friends, went to see longest yard and then met up with a girl afterwards... just got home http://www.sccow.com/joshs/pimp.gif doubt I could've done that with the girls at hooters. lol Oh well I'm heading up to colby now. See some of ya there.

Dude! you take the longest time to drive here from hellA. For some reason it cracks me up...but at least you got here ok. (notice I didn't say anything about your car :jest: )

"Weed" isn't as bad as "Balls Ferry". Go figure that one out! :eek2:

And no wonder you are such a smart-ass. Another air-head...er...Gemini. No lack of appreciation for bewbies...er....brewbies...yeah, I give up, again. :D

Time for the range and a bigass BBQ.
We are hosting!

Hell the Engine sitting in my car came from "Bath" NY!

They should not give you any problems. tell them you had the tech who worked on it last install it so it has to be fine ;)

I'm looking forward to meeting you as well Rott, you've been posting here so long I feel like a already know you :) See ya at the track ?
I hear ya. That may explain why I feel so "at home" the couple of times I have gotten together with the gang at Hooters........either that or my intense hatred of Cali makes me fit in. Eh, either way, it is good to be here and I look forward to meeting you as well.

As for the track, if you mean this Friday night, I am game. Like I said, I have no plans so I may as well go suck up some exhaust fumes. :)
I stopped by briefly but had some other plans. And jill wasn't in the contest so I didn't bother. I ended up going to canyon's with a few friends, went to see longest yard and then met up with a girl afterwards... just got home http://www.sccow.com/joshs/pimp.gif doubt I could've done that with the girls at hooters. lol Oh well I'm heading up to colby now. See some of ya there.
I musta missed you at Hooters then, I think I got there a few minutes beore 8. Sounds like you had a better time then the rest of us. ;) And Jill is DEFINITELY a hottie. :nod:
Dude! you take the longest time to drive here from hellA. For some reason it cracks me up...but at least you got here ok. (notice I didn't say anything about your car :jest: )

"Weed" isn't as bad as "Balls Ferry". Go figure that one out! :eek2:

And no wonder you are such a smart-ass. Another air-head...er...Gemini. No lack of appreciation for bewbies...er....brewbies...yeah, I give up, again. :D

Time for the range and a bigass BBQ.
We are hosting!
What can I say, I had my Mom & dog in the car.......plus it was hot as f&*k the entire trip up. :( Or were you referring to the fact that I have been wanting/trying to move up here for about 2-3 years? :lol: Brews r good...bewbies r good 2. :devil: Let's get this BBQ started.....I need to let some steam off. :) And what is wrong with being an airhead and/or a Gemini? ;) I do them both very well. :cool:
Hell the Engine sitting in my car came from "Bath" NY!

They should not give you any problems. tell them you had the tech who worked on it last install it so it has to be fine ;)
Thanks Ellis. I am going to drive over to Seaview Pontiac in Lynnwood tomorrow (only cuz it is close) and see what they say. If they give me any crap, I will head down to Kirkland and see what happens.

Rottluver Aaahhh i was waiting for some verbal abuse from you. Naw i'm pretty harmless really. Some days i'm in a bad mood and post stuff that i shouldnt.Been a real rough month :( and your the poor guy that gets general harassment from me :judge: After my vacation i should be back to my old self.(and that would be?? i forget)After i give ellis his BBQ maybe we could hook up and tell ex wife stories and shoot big giant poster size cutouts of them,or kick back make some homemade brew or go to hooters and google over the nice professional attire they wear. :engarde:

Naw i'm pretty harmless really. Some days i'm in a bad mood and post stuff that i shouldnt.Been a real rough month :( and your the poor guy that gets general harassment from me :judge: After my vacation i should be back to my old self.(and that would be?? i forget)After i give ellis his BBQ maybe we could hook up and tell ex wife stories and shoot big giant poster size cutouts of them,or kick back make some homemade brew or go to hooters and google over the nice professional attire they wear. :engarde:
Oh I figured you were harmless, I was just givin you some :turd: ;)
Sorry things have been rough for ya, if there is anything I can do, feel free to ask. And enjoy your vacation, lord knows I could use one. :nod:

And when you get back, we can talk all kindsa trash about ex-wives, I have tons of stories.........and doing so while oogling sexy Hooter's babes is a great way to do it. ;) Or while firing guns......that always makes me feel better. :D