Northwest Members - Not all camaro drivers are friendly

maybe it's just because he lost a friendly run from a roll, but...

I get on the freeway from a two-lane on-ramp messing with a 993 Carrera-4 and there's this black SS on the freeway about 7 lengths back. I let the small fish go for a slightly bigger one and I see him narrowing the gap quickly.

I'm in lane 3 and he moves from lane 3 to lane 2 to pass; he's closing at a speed differential of about 20mph. I downshift to 3rd and apply moderate throttle to match speed. He doesn't slow; in fact i hear he's on it hard. ...So I grab 2nd and go WFO from about 50mph. He gets about half a length from inertia and I reel him in; pull about three lengths by the top of 3rd. He didn't have a chance.

So, I slow back down to give him the thumbs up for the run... and he rolls by looking dead ahead as if nothing happened. Then he goes WOT right after he passes me; so I dig in behind him to run up with him... and he BRAKE CHECKS me. TWICE. So I upshift to sixth and keep my distance. What a punk.

Here are his curriculæ vitæ:
1999 Camaro SS
Navy Blue Metallic
Clear corner markers (drivers side is out)
SLP Dual Dual exhaust
Number plate 616-KXJ
Driver is upper-30s Asian or Pacific islander.

If any of you know know this guy, tell him he's a goober. Don't brake check people at 70MPH. So unsportsmanlike.

What a jerk! The guy needs to give credit where it's due. I figure if you can beat me, you have a FAST car & should be told so. I'm never upset with the other guy when I lose (maybe with myself if I screwed up). But if you're going to be a prick when you lose, then don't race.

Damn. Some guys can't take a loss. I find that when I lose a hard roll on the freeway (which seems to be a lot :jest:) others don't even give me the time of day. I'll try to wave or give a thumbs up and they just cruise by not even looking.

I'm always amazed at some people's reactions to a loss ... and sometimes even when they win. It's like their entire self image is tied up in their car or something ? Truly baffles me. BTW Mark, what's it like when you lose anyway ? j/k ! lol !

What a doughball! Stupid move brake checking... what else can be said about that in polite company? Kinda' what I expect from a few sore snobbish LT1 Vette owners I've had the luck to beat, but even they were not that bad.

Firebird owners can be just as bad, by the way. I get snubbed all the time by acouple of LS1 Ram Air drivers and an LS1 Formula driver.
Whatever.

Where did this happen at? I think I know the car you are talking about. There are many A-holes out there, both on the street and at the shows... sad to see that since we are all apart of a big community of camaro fans. :(

maybe it's just because he lost a friendly run from a roll, but...

I get on the freeway from a two-lane on-ramp messing with a 993 Carrera-4 and there's this black SS on the freeway about 7 lengths back. I let the small fish go for a slightly bigger one and I see him narrowing the gap quickly.

I'm in lane 3 and he moves from lane 3 to lane 2 to pass; he's closing at a speed differential of about 20mph. I downshift to 3rd and apply moderate throttle to match speed. He doesn't slow; in fact i hear he's on it hard. ...So I grab 2nd and go WFO from about 50mph. He gets about half a length from inertia and I reel him in; pull about three lengths by the top of 3rd. He didn't have a chance.

So, I slow back down to give him the thumbs up for the run... and he rolls by looking dead ahead as if nothing happened. Then he goes WOT right after he passes me; so I dig in behind him to run up with him... and he BRAKE CHECKS me. TWICE. So I upshift to sixth and keep my distance. What a punk.

Here are his curriculæ vitæ:
1999 Camaro SS
Navy Blue Metallic
Clear corner markers (drivers side is out)
SLP Dual Dual exhaust
Number plate 616-KXJ
Driver is upper-30s Asian or Pacific islander.

If any of you know know this guy, tell him he's a goober. Don't brake check people at 70MPH. So unsportsmanlike.

To quote someone from the recent past in this section....."What an ass-cake" :lol:

It isn't like the dude lost to a ricer for God's sake......it was another F-Body. Sounds like he needs his ass removed for that super-unsafe brake move. I woulda gave him a few fingers of my mind if it had been me. ;)

BTW, 97BlackT\A, I always try to wave at any Poncho driver, especially another Bird owner, LT1 or LS1 or whatever. We are all in the family together. :nod:

It isn't like the dude lost to a ricer for God's sake......it was another F-Body.
Another LS1 anyway.

BTW, 97BlackT\A, I always try to wave at any Poncho driver, especially another Bird owner, LT1 or LS1 or whatever. We are all in the family together. :nod:
I'd have to say that the best looking Fourth gen is a 1997 WS-6. IMHO, the LS1 poncho guys are all bent because the LT1s look so much better. :)

Another LS1 anyway.
It wasn't an F-body? Oops, my bad. :bang:
I'd have to say that the best looking Fourth gen is a 1997 WS-6. IMHO, the LS1 poncho guys are all bent because the LT1s look so much better. :)
Having had both a '96 WS6, a 2000 WS6 and a 2002 WS6, I would have to agree that the 96-97's were the best looking IMHO. While I like the looks of mine, I think the LT1 WS6's were more aggresive looking as well as having smoother/cleaner lines. :hail:

I can think of another Fbody driver thats posting in this thread that can be a cock at times as well...what are the odds

I can think of another Fbody driver thats posting in this thread that can be a cock at times as well...what are the odds
If I laugh at that, am I a bad person?
:emb:

Losing to a Vette in an SS is no disgrace. Myself, I don't get it. I got beat by an Eagle Talon. There are faster cars out there. Even ricers. Race & you will find them. But show them respect, win or lose. Even if it's to some ugly old 71 Camaro with a BBC in it. ;)

Damn... brake checking like that is the act of someone lower than a snake's ballbag. If I lose to another car, I ain't bitter about it... there's always someone faster.

Even if it's to some ugly old 71 Camaro with a BBC in it. ;)

...I heard there might be a fast one of those. Probably just some nasty rumor. ;)

what a looser :rice
please do not stereotype all camaro drivers like him majeed :)

you know that I'd never do that :devil:

As a Thirdgen owner I normally find that most typical LS1 owners are stuck up and don't even acknowledge other F-body owners of the "lowlier" years.

I can think of another Fbody driver thats posting in this thread that can be a cock at times as well...what are the odds
Aaawww my first compliment. ;)

what a looser :rice
please do not stereotype all camaro drivers like him majeed :)

you know that I'd never do that :devil:
As the owner of 3 prior 3rd Gens, I have the utmost respect for them. Matter of fact, I am looking for another one in the near future to toy with. Sadly, there are so few in decent shape or that aren't being driven by punk kids who have something to prove. If I see a nice car (or m/c), regardless, I try to give a thumbs up. Nice cars are nice cars, no matter what year/style/brand/etc.

I find that many are not waving or being decent thiese days. I am always looking and waving. I miss a few due to the daily scan and grind but try.

As far as soar not big whinners? Don and I Caught a ZX10R the other day on 9 leaving Marks. He could not run away from us so he brake checked us...Good god damn thing they give us ABS so we can stop AND steer at the same time. Good way to get your self killed Brake checking cars doing tripple digits!

That is OK at the next light he damn near layed it down trying to show off on a front wheel stand ;) I thought we were going to have to get out and pick his dumb ass up!

Not every one is nice and half of them forgot there brains at home ;)

Not every one is nice and half of them forgot there brains at home ;)

:jest:

It is not this group that I find ignored the other generations, its the average LS1 owner you find around on the street

The average LS1 owner is oblivous and lacks respect as to what they have under their own hoods, let alone what's under any other generation of F-body. So don't feel bad... ;)

It is not this group that I find ignored the other generations, its the average LS1 owner you find around on the street

This man speaks the truth. I feel so left out being slow. :drive:

This man speaks the truth. I feel so left out being slow. :drive:

me, personally I love 3rd gens. Most of the lil childs dream car after Knight Rider http://www.knightrideronline.com/ :P But as Rottluver said mostly teenagers drive these cars because 3rd gens are now very easy to afford cars

I find that many are not waving or being decent thiese days. I am always looking and waving. ;)
I look & wave too Ellis, at Camaros & Firebirds of ALL generations.

To quote someone from the recent past in this section....."What an ass-cake" :lol:

It isn't like the dude lost to a ricer for God's sake......it was another F-Body. Sounds like he needs his ass removed for that super-unsafe brake move. I woulda gave him a few fingers of my mind if it had been me. ;)

BTW, 97BlackT\A, I always try to wave at any Poncho driver, especially another Bird owner, LT1 or LS1 or whatever. We are all in the family together. :nod:

Yeah, me too. I see at least 3 Birds every week to and from work, and a handful of Z's and SS's. NONE of them acknowledge a wave, and I waved countless times. I get more respect from a guy that drives a nice red IROC than 4th gens. I'm so used to ignoring them anymore on my commute that when a red 96-97 ram air was heading towards me last summer I almost had a stroke when the driver gave a huge wave out the open T-Tops.

Yeah, me too. I see at least 3 Birds every week to and from work, and a handful of Z's and SS's. NONE of them acknowledge a wave, and I waved countless times. I get more respect from a guy that drives a nice red IROC than 4th gens. I'm so used to ignoring them anymore on my commute that when a red 96-97 ram air was heading towards me last summer I almost had a stroke when the driver gave a huge wave out the open T-Tops.
I hear that.......a few weeks before I moved I was cruising up one of the canyons outside of L.A. and much to my astonishment, a dude on a sport bike waved at me so hard he almost fell off. :eek2: I was floored........and very happy. I miss having my Ninja when 99% of all bikers, sport or otherwise, would take the time to give you a wave or a nod at least.........ahhh, those were the days.

If you are on a bike most other bikes still do the low down wave or a head nod. It was one of the surprises of buying a bike :)

When I'm on my motorcycle I always wave to other riders. When I am in the Trans Am I always wave to other fbodies. Almost all bikes will wave back but almost none of the fbodies will.

As a Thirdgen owner I normally find that most typical LS1 owners are stuck up and don't even acknowledge other F-body owners of the "lowlier" years.
Believe it our not we have some guys in the club like this. If its not their generation they dont want to talk about anything else. Or if your car is not stock they dont want to talk to you, or if your car is not modded they dont want to talk to you. But heck with well over 300 Memberships in the club you cant weed out the "purest groups" you just got to go with the flow.

I disagree with that completely. Most "LS1 owners" would either like to or do own a F-Body from any of the prior Gens. Personally, I wold love to have two or three different camaros from each Generation that was made. I don't think that my camaro is the baddest-ass car on the road... I have a friend who has an '86 Z28 who can smoke me in a heads-up race any day of the week (granted, he has done o' lot of engine work to it, but it is still a 3rd Gen Z28). If you have run into a "LS1 snob" somewhere, then that is too bad, but all the "LS1 owners" I know don't think down on other F-Body onwers of different Gens.

As a Thirdgen owner I normally find that most typical LS1 owners are stuck up and don't even acknowledge other F-body owners of the "lowlier" years.

To quote someone from the recent past in this section....."What an ass-cake" :lol:

It isn't like the dude lost to a ricer for God's sake......it was another F-Body. Sounds like he needs his ass removed for that super-unsafe brake move. I woulda gave him a few fingers of my mind if it had been me. ;)

BTW, 97BlackT\A, I always try to wave at any Poncho driver, especially another Bird owner, LT1 or LS1 or whatever. We are all in the family together. :nod:I agree guys like that need to be pulled out of the car and the shit whipped out of them.Most f-body owners love to go head to head with another f-body It's sibling rivalry. Now if i ever lost to a ricer i would be so sad :cry: But on the same note i would shake his hand and tell him good job. Then call ellis for more mods LOL

I Always wave to fellow F-body owners, Vettes, Mustangs...If they are nice cars they deserve a wave...but unfortunately 90% of them don't wave back :judge: We used to wave at Brandon (Lt1Factor) here in town before we knew him though he always waves back and now look...he's a friend :D

And Tom, I beat a Ricer once...a long long time ago ;) and after I let him catch back up to me he gave me a big 'ol Thumbs up...happened on the freeway with a car full of teeny boppers too..they were all hanging out the windows cheering..I was just playing with them, I think they just wanted to hear my car and see it go... :D The same thing happened with a Bike a couple months ago when Ellis was Driving...he was right on our tail but couldn't get past us...it's cool to get those Thumbs up or waves.. ;)

As a Thirdgen owner I normally find that most typical LS1 owners are stuck up and don't even acknowledge other F-body owners of the "lowlier" years.Wow How did i miss this post.

As a ls1 owner I do not look down on any generations of camaros. As a matter of fact I would give my left leg for a first gen.i owned a second generation Had to part with it for reason i won't go into.

And i would love to get my paws on a 86 or so Iroc z. I'm currently looking at a jet black 95 z28 with the tee tops 6 speed. (for naughty angel )

If you have run into a "LS1 snob" somewhere, then that is too bad, but all the "LS1 owners" I know don't think down on other F-Body onwers of different Gens.
My thoughts exactly! My favorites are the 1st gens, Maros or Birds. I had a 69 Camaro & wish I still had it. That was a NICE car, even tho it wasn't finished. It wouldn't beat my 00 TA in the 1/4 or thru the turns, but it was one of my all time favotie cars. That said, it would have to be a special 1st gen to get me to trade straight across at this point. VERY SPECIAL!!! :drive:

Well until I read this post I thought I was getting a lot of thumbs up could be my eye sights going and I've been getting flipped off.

My mom had a 67 400 Firebird, 70 Trans Am, 70 Formula 400. I've had a 79 Trans Am 400 4-speed, 82 Trans Am, 84 Trans Am (yeah it was black like Kit) lusted after a LT-1 for years and now my 2000 SS, I like them all.

If you have run into a "LS1 snob" somewhere, then that is too bad, but all the "LS1 owners" I know don't think down on other F-Body onwers of different Gens.

I've ran into more LS1 snobs then non-LS1 snobs in my time hanging out w/ LS1s. Granted, very few are from "local" message boards. 1st gen owners are almost as bad... if not worse as not wanting to talk to other gens. Never really ran into snobby 2nd gen owners, and same with 3rd gen owners. Basically it has always seemed that when the next gen came out the previous generation was pretty much looked down on. For the record of anyone that doesn't know, I have 5 Thirdgens, a LS1 4th gen and a 1st gen, so I see how people act differently depending on what car I happen to have insured at the time.

I almost forgot that on the way back from Yakima the other day I had a guy yell out the window "Nice Car!" That was pretty cool! :D I waved and said Thanks...

Then we had a car come next to us with an older couple that held up their little Shih tzu dog..I have my license frame "I love my Shih tzu" :D

Yeah, I was at the light the other day and there was a 80s Stang next to me. I looked over and he was all grinning and happy, then revved his engine. So I revved back and the guy was jumping up and down in his seat all giddy. I took that as enough of a compliment :)

86 Camaro - 4 cylinder 4 speed, t-tops, dark blue, tan interior - put 186,000 on it before the motor let go. One of the best cars I ever owned.

You had an Iron Duke?? Sweet!!! Any pics? I've never seen an Iron Duke w/ t-tops.

Maybe it wasnt t-tops maybe it was a sunroof? Long time ago, cant remember, no wait a minute now I do remember hard top (sorry for misleading), roof liner sagged to shit!! No pics that I know of.

Ah, damn! You had me and one of my friends all excited because we where hoping for proof :(

Ah, damn! You had me and one of my friends all excited because we where hoping for proof :(
proof of the t-tops? Ahh, yep no I had to think for a minute, we hauled a canoe around with that thing with no rack. Just used a blanket. It was a hard top for sure.

We have never seen an Iron Duke w/ t-tops, which is why we got so excited.

yea Iron Dukes are pretty rare now adays. Everyone hated them & they were pretty hard to work on. Same with the 305 Crossfires.

Was pretty glad to see my 82 pace car sell to a club member that knows what he is doing.

Woodinville is snob country, it takes the prize for snobbery when it comes to *all* generations and models. You can't even talk to someone in a parking lot who has a first gen without them thinking you aren't worth their time let alone wave at another 4th gen without them sticking their nose so high they would require T-tops. The maroon in a nice 4th gen Mustang ragtop will turn up their tunes when at a light you say "nice car!" and the 4th gen bird will cut you off on a green left just to be a dick.

What is weird is once you are out of the area, those third gen drivers will smile and wave back most of the time - they don't seem to hold a grudge. 1st gens are still snobby but at least change lanes. Women driving Mustangs seem to think I'm a frickin lesbian or something because I'll wave or nod with a smile - you just picture their boyfriends nudging them during sex saying "are you still awake?". Women on cycles give back a *huge* smile and wave, none of it makes any sense!

I wonder what would happen if I put on a blonde wig and shirt just barely covering the headlights. My guess is I would get all sorts of waves and nods, even from the other female drivers. Guess its time to find a cheap wig and try it out just for fun...then flip them all off when they are nice :devil:

As for the "hit me so I can sue you sucker" idiot driver, those are people that need to be run over by a semi who's been awake for 33 hours and hopped up on crank with BC license plates.
Either that or die in a fire...

I wonder what would happen if I put on a blonde wig and shirt just barely covering the headlights. My guess is I would get all sorts of waves and nods, even from the other female drivers. Guess its time to find a cheap wig and try it out just for fun...then flip them all off when they are nice :devil:

As for the "hit me so I can sue you sucker" idiot driver, those are people that need to be run over by a semi who's been awake for 33 hours and hopped up on crank with BC license plates.
Either that or die in a fire...
Why don't you tell us how you really feel? :lol: :jest:

I will agree with 1st Gen snobs... I have run into a lot of those types that believe that the camaro started production in 1967 and ended in 1969. To them, everything else is not a camaro.
But, I think that a majority of the 4th Gen owners really wanted another generation of Camaro or Firebird but got a 4th Gen. because it was more avaiable and easier to finance. Not to say that they didn't want a 4th Gen, but their preference might have been another generation. When I was looking for my camaro, I wanted either a '68 SS or a '98-02 SS. I got my wish with my '99 SS, but I still would love to have that '68!! ANd, I would also ove to have an '87-90 IROC Z.
The "4th Gen snobs" that you have run into are more than likely jealous of the fact that they do not have the Gen Camaro or Fierbird that they really want and play up the fact how much their car is much more bad ass. But, the majority that I know never look down on any other Gen.

I've ran into more LS1 snobs then non-LS1 snobs in my time hanging out w/ LS1s. Granted, very few are from "local" message boards. 1st gen owners are almost as bad... if not worse as not wanting to talk to other gens. Never really ran into snobby 2nd gen owners, and same with 3rd gen owners. Basically it has always seemed that when the next gen came out the previous generation was pretty much looked down on. For the record of anyone that doesn't know, I have 5 Thirdgens, a LS1 4th gen and a 1st gen, so I see how people act differently depending on what car I happen to have insured at the time.