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Old 06-12-2005, 02:34 PM
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This weekend i changed my rear end fluid. I have a 2001 ss with the optional auburn diff from slp. This morning it started whining while i was pulling through the parking lot at work. I used non synthetic limited slip gear oil (thats what the shop told me to use with the aubirn diff). i changed the pinion seal about 2 months ago and was carful to mark the nut. I had no problems or noises untill this fluid change. Also i just started using a nx wet kit currently jetted for a 100 shot. i've only used it about 6 times and only through 2nd and 3rd. i'm running a window switch and a wot switch and only sprayed twice after the fluid change. i was wondering if anyone had the same problem or had any advice.
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I did you use GM Limited Slip Additive?
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I did you use GM Limited Slip Additive?
Thanks for the quick reply, but no, the shop told me the oil i bought was "limited slip oil" and that i didnt need additive. but from what i'm reading in the searches i'm going to get some asap right after work. Would not having the additive cause the whining?
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Hey man definitely use the gm syn gear oil. I have a 2001 Chevy Pickup that I have for a company vehicle and we rebuilt the rear in it. First we used the gm oil after the rebuild and it ran fine. No noises or nothing. Then the cover got cracked and we had to dump the fluid again to replace the cover. We couldn't get the gm stuff since they were out at the time and we needed it badly (right now) so we used a different type of syn gear lube and that damn thing whines like my old lady! Try the gm stuff first. Good luck Chris
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what did you use? i assume it was 80/90 with additive in there? use 75/90 synthetic and get yourself a tube of limited slip additive
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thanks for the info chris and WS6firebirdTA00, but i have the auburn diff that you're not supposed to use syn with because of the clutches.
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edit: my books were wrong lol

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Sorry if i seem like a smart *** but, get new manuals. The Auburn uses clutches and reccomends NON synthetic gear oil. But i will check with SLP to double check my facts, and thanks for the imput.
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The 80W-90 Mineral Based Oil does not have the limited slip additive. The 75W-90 Synthetic manufactured by Redline and Royal Purple does contain the needed additive. Auburn reccommends the 80W-90 Non Synthetic Oil for use with their differentials. They know their diffs best and clutches hate synthetic since it adds to the slippage.

Torsen - Use Synthetic
Auburn - No Synthetic

What you need to do is drain the diff oil. Add ~2 quarts of 80W-90 and 1 bottle of GM Limited Slip Additive.
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Originally Posted by Blacker
The 80W-90 Mineral Based Oil does not have the limited slip additive. The 75W-90 Synthetic manufactured by Redline and Royal Purple does contain the needed additive. Auburn reccommends the 80W-90 Non Synthetic Oil for use with their differentials. They know their diffs best and clutches hate synthetic since it adds to the slippage.

Torsen - Use Synthetic
Auburn - No Synthetic

What you need to do is drain the diff oil. Add ~2 quarts of 80W-90 and 1 bottle of GM Limited Slip Additive.
Thanks. Thats the stuff i needed to know.
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Originally Posted by smo
Thanks. Thats the stuff i needed to know.
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No problem
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Originally Posted by smo
Sorry if i seem like a smart *** but, get new manuals. The Auburn uses clutches and reccomends NON synthetic gear oil. But i will check with SLP to double check my facts, and thanks for the imput.
thanks man, the manual i have is 2005, all the ones i have read said synthetic, i have an auburn with synthetic but i dont have any whine. so the recommend 80/90? damn book, im gonna call them in the morning, even the dealer told me 75/90.

about dont know who/what to trust anymore. ill have to get me some 80/90 then
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wonder how much this would effect traction at the track?
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just wanna check too, auburn, last i checked having the rear in the air, turning one tire the otehr would turn the opposite direction, is this right? if not how can you tell its auburn, this is the only way i know
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Do not use synthetic. Another tip. After you drain it put the additive in and then add the fluid. This will help mix the additive. Mine has always had gear whine. I was told that SLP set these up with the gears loose.
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if the additive was in there it should be all mixed up, how much did you fill it up?

anyone know how to definatly tell if you have an auburn or not?
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
if the additive was in there it should be all mixed up, how much did you fill it up?

anyone know how to definatly tell if you have an auburn or not?
If you have not touched the differential then, you have the Torsen. The Auburn HD was an option for the SLP Camaro SS and SLP Firehawk for MY2000.

Standard
1998 Auburn Differential
1999-2002 Torsen Differential

Upgrade (SLP)
1998 Torsen Differential
1999-2002 Auburn HD Differential

I will put one bottle (4oz) of GM Limied Slip Additive into the rear end. Then, fill the rest with 80W-90 GL-5 Oil until it comes out of the fill port. This is around 1.75 quarts.
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Originally Posted by Blacker
If you have not touched the differential then, you have the Torsen. The Auburn HD was an option for the SLP Camaro SS and SLP Firehawk for MY2000.

Standard
1998 Auburn Differential
1999-2002 Torsen Differential

Upgrade (SLP)
1998 Torsen Differential
1999-2002 Auburn HD Differential

I will put one bottle (4oz) of GM Limied Slip Additive into the rear end. Then, fill the rest with 80W-90 GL-5 Oil until it comes out of the fill port. This is around 1.75 quarts.
ok thanks. so i take it none of the ws6's even came with it. so much for what i was told before....yeah i usually fill it up about 1/8 inch below the line so when it heats it wont come out the pinion seal
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Since the WS6 Package is done by GM then, no upgraded differential.
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ok thanks



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