nuzee

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I have a TCI SSF3500 waiting for install. I want this mod to get me into the 11s. If it doesn’t seem like it will then I’m not going to install it. I’ll maybe do nitrous instead or get a milder stall and find some more NA horsepower. After I hopefully reach 11s, I plan on putting the stock TC back in. Our track will be closing down in a few months and I don’t see a need for running a high stall on the street.

Right now I’m hitting mid to high 1.8 60 ft times at 8.0-8.1 @ 89-90 & 12.5@110. Even if I can do a low 1.6 with the TC, I don’t think I have enough to get me into the 11s.

So, do you think I’ll be able to hit 11s with just the 3500 TC?

GregWS6&z28

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you should be very close. I'd just make sure you have maximum traction. you're already getting great 60's so I say it can be done. after you get the stall in, you wont want to go back to stock

boomcase

ID SAY 12.15 AT 111MPH, WITH A BIGGER CAM I THINK YOU CAN HIT 11S EASY..

nuzee

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I'm thinking I'd end up short too.

It would be very frustrating to me to have a high stall and not be able to go WOT for more than 1 second. The traffic congestion in Honolulu during the times that I'm driving around is ridiculous. At least I am able to get all of my pent-up anxiety out at the track. But soon it will be gone

I am having my doubts about doing this converter now. For the time & expense to install & re-install TCs, I could get a mild converter & just leave it in and net some benefit. What should I do???

blkZ28spt

I'd just put the 3500 in. It's really very driveable day to day, and you'll be happy whenever you do get a chance to open up.

nuzee

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Oh how I wish that people would post their experience of a >0.5 ET improvement going from a mid 1.8 to a low 1.6 60 ft time.

ls_101

i cut .67 off my time with the converter, tci ssf3500, i'd do it, i love mine, sucks they are closing the track down by cambell , what do they expect people to do?, i go back and forth between hawaii and the mainland, moving here full time in dec, so im selling my fbody

XTrooper

nuzee: I don't think you'll quite make it into the 11s with the converter, but I'd definitely still do it. With your 3.42 gears, it really won't be that loose and if you don't like it, you can always sell it and get something in the 3000-3200 range. I'd never go back to the stock converter though as that would really hobble your setup.

Good luck!

Slacker

If you can hook to a low 1.6, Shift about 200 rpm past peak hp (6800 for me), & drop some weight you can do it. Look at my sig.. My TR227 is small for now a days, but it works.

Every 1/10th dropped in the 60" is good for 2/10th's in the 1/4 mile.

boomcase

Nuzee , in my 1999 ta full weight minus centerline wheels , 3576 lb I had boltons , and a 216/220 525/532 cam with 342 gears and a TCI 3800 2.6 stator and my car would run consistent 11.80s at 112/113 on partial throttle launches with high 1.5 and low 1.6 60ft times. my car dynoed 342rwp ..DA 1700

JNorris

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You will have a tough time running 11.9x with an 110mph trap speed. From experience you will need to cut a low 1.6 high 1.5 60’ time and trap at least 112.5mph.


John

DOUBT IT

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So you're saying that even my turd could touch on 11's with a stall once the weather turns cold around here John?

I ran 110-111 mph at MMP in 55-60* weather with about 60-70% humidity.

My next mod is gonna be that converter we talked about, just as soon as I can come up with some spare cash.

blkZ28spt

But the question is, was that because they installed a torque converter, which also aids with shift extension and not just on the launch?


Based on your MPH, probably not. I had some tranny issues, but previously went 12.21 @ 111 with 1.75 60's. I'd say you should be low 12's with a slight chance at 11's in great weather. You should hopefully be able to pull lower 60s than I did, and my tranny was screwing up, so it might be possible, but I think you'll be 12.doh's at best. Just a guess.

JNorris

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Allen - If you can trap 113mph with a 1.60 60 then you should run a 11.9x.


John

blkZ28spt

nuzee: I apologize for hijacking your thread temporarily.

JNorris: Want to make a guess as to what I will run? I'm going toinght and friday.

previously went 12.2 @ 111 on a 1.75 60'. I have replaced the tranny with a built unit, restalled converte from 3500 to 4000 to get into the powerband of my MS3, widened the power curve and added 43 rwhp. If I pull 1.65-1.69, what is your guess for quarter mile?

boomcase

11.72 at 113mph if you can hook up

JNorris

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11.7x @ 114.xx

ApacheDrill

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What it comes down to is this, a stall will cost your around the same price, you decide what you want it stalled at, to much stall and not enough mods, take you out of your powerband, a stall is a great mod, but it need to match your setup to get peak performance out of it, i think you will be short.. Rethink the direction you want to go in with your setup and make the right choice.

nuzee

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No problem!
My guess for you is 11.6@115 & you'll never see another 12 second slip again!! Good luck!

Thank you ALL for your replies!!! Seems I need to find some cheap ~20 hp to do it w/ the TC if I want to see 11s in the next few months. Maybe retarding the cam & weight reduction might get me close. OK, so it is decided that the TC goes in!! Thank you all for helping me think this through!

nuzee

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Things have changed alot from when I first started modifying the car. The NHRA rollbar rule dropped from 12.00 to 11.5 and the announcement that our local track was closing early next year.

I originally set my goal to making a solid street performance setup that met most "old man" criteria (no fuss, no must). So I decided (for my driving situation) that I was going to keep my stock converter and get a small low-end biased cam to help it out. I didn't want to have to tune anything so I kept the stock manifold & cats to keep the expense down. Everything as it is now feels like a good match. I think my track times are decent for what I put together.

Now, because things have changed, my goals have changed. That's where I'm at right now. I'm at the beginning of switching directions and it doesn't look like a proven performance mod (TC upgrade) is going to benefit me as it has most others. I just wanted confirmation from other experienced folks that I shouldn't expect to be in the 11s just from the TC change. I need to think this through to make the most with my $.