Street Racing & Kill Stories - Integra takes out an 05 GTO!!!
93transam
06-15-2005, 11:02 AM
This was last Sat. I was following in my 93 TA. They went from a roll on the highway from about 35. The Integra immediatley got a jump and stayed there. I don't know by how much because I was behind. The GTO had the 6 liter with ram air hood. ( unless he just stuck the hood and decals on the car) They went twice with the same results. I know the guy with the Integra. He says he put a supercharger on it but wouldn't tell me any specifics like boost #'s. I know it is a GSR. I used to smoke him in my LT1 all the time when he had exhaust, header, CAI and I think a tune or chip. But now I got a new toy. :devil:
My question is if I shift good, can I pull a new GTO(with the LS2)? Not worried about the GTO I just want to take out my cocky friend in the Integra. With the 99 TA by the way not the LT1. (No insurance and its parked until it's sold.)
Since I have no specs on the GSR except the supercharger and exhaust I am not going to ask about that one. All I know is the Integra pulled the 05 GTO with 4 guys in it. (It didn't look by much though)
Either way I am going out this weekend with the LS1 and I am gonna get my buddy to bring his camera.
CharlieCobra03
06-15-2005, 11:11 AM
Hmm, interesting. I raced a GSR with an SC and got him by 5 cars from a dig in the 1/4. Of course, I'm putting down a bit more than the car in your sig. Good luck on your run.
01SSDRVR
06-15-2005, 11:28 AM
Hmm, interesting. I raced a GSR with an SC and got him by 5 cars from a dig in the 1/4. Of course, I'm putting down a bit more than the car in your sig. Good luck on your run.
It doesnt say what #'s hes putting down. So how do you know?
93transam
06-15-2005, 11:39 AM
It doesnt say what #'s hes putting down. So how do you know?
I plan on taking it to the dyno pretty soon, but from what I have seen with similar mods 360-380 RWHP? :confused:
93transam
06-15-2005, 12:03 PM
But what about the GTO? How do they do against F-bodys? I can get a pretty good estimate of what I'll do against the Integra if I can get a comparison on a GTO. Keep in mind the GTO had 4 guys sitting in it so around 400 pounds was added on to the driver/car weight. I probably will go from a roll just because I'm not use to launching it. It has an SLP short shifter and it's kinda tricky to shift. M6 newbie here.
Camaro ChriSS
06-15-2005, 12:33 PM
It doesnt say what #'s hes putting down. So how do you know?
Well, considering Charlie has a 460+ rwhp blown cobra and we're talking about a LS1 with headers and cam, I think Chalrie is safe to say he is putting down more power. Course, depends on the cam.
I think with your mods you'd be better than a GTO with the LS2, considering the weight difference. Again, depends on cam.
93transam
06-15-2005, 12:49 PM
Specs I believe are 224/224/.586 I think but not to sure. I have to look at the reciept.
93transam
06-15-2005, 12:50 PM
Hmm, interesting. I raced a GSR with an SC and got him by 5 cars from a dig in the 1/4. Of course, I'm putting down a bit more than the car in your sig. Good luck on your run.
Just a little bit huh? :jest: :)
m8d2run
06-15-2005, 06:02 PM
This was last Sat. I was following in my 93 TA. They went from a roll on the highway from about 35. The Integra immediatley got a jump and stayed there. I don't know by how much because I was behind. The GTO had the 6 liter with ram air hood. ( unless he just stuck the hood and decals on the car) They went twice with the same results. I know the guy with the Integra. He says he put a supercharger on it but wouldn't tell me any specifics like boost #'s. I know it is a GSR. I used to smoke him in my LT1 all the time when he had exhaust, header, CAI and I think a tune or chip. But now I got a new toy. :devil:
My question is if I shift good, can I pull a new GTO(with the LS2)? Not worried about the GTO I just want to take out my cocky friend in the Integra. With the 99 TA by the way not the LT1. (No insurance and its parked until it's sold.)
Since I have no specs on the GSR except the supercharger and exhaust I am not going to ask about that one. All I know is the Integra pulled the 05 GTO with 4 guys in it. (It didn't look by much though)
Either way I am going out this weekend with the LS1 and I am gonna get my buddy to bring his camera.
which car had the 4 guys in it? if it was the gto and the integra only beat him by alitttle, the gto with just the driver would walk all over that integra. i can really feel the difference when i have 4 people in my gto, plu i weight 215lbs anyway, but i've raced a 2000 z28 and beat him, i also raced a c5 vette, from a dig he got the jump 1/2 a car, by the end of 1st i was at his door, by the end of 2nd i was at his tire pulling, i missed 3rd and lost :emb: had i not missed 3rd i would have taken him :D
98SuperSport
06-15-2005, 07:00 PM
Keep in mind the GTO had 4 guys sitting in it so around 400 pounds was added on to the driver/car weight.
if there were 4 guys sitting in my GTO that only weighed 400 pounds all together i would kick all their asses at once...men weigh a little more than a hundred pounds a piece...so a guess of 150 lbs per guy = 600 extra pounds the GTO gets to haul around. thats like challenging a guy to a race and then going and hooking up a U-Haul trailer to your car :bang:
MetallicBluews6
06-15-2005, 07:25 PM
Very possible. Buddy of mine with a GSR, turbo, internal work, and whole bunch of other mods runs high 11's.
m8d2run
06-15-2005, 08:20 PM
yeah its possible, but the gto with 4 people in it, and the gsr barely beat him, the gto less 3 people should walk him :drive:
00Vette
06-15-2005, 10:02 PM
I plan on taking it to the dyno pretty soon, but from what I have seen with similar mods 360-380 RWHP? :confused:
I hope you pull great numbers from the dyno, but I don't think you'll see that much HP. I have H/C and all kinds of other goodies. I have stock exhaust manifolds though. My car, N/A dyno'd 383rwhp. Long tubes should put me over 400rwhp!
93transam
06-15-2005, 11:57 PM
if there were 4 guys sitting in my GTO that only weighed 400 pounds all together i would kick all their asses at once...men weigh a little more than a hundred pounds a piece...so a guess of 150 lbs per guy = 600 extra pounds the GTO gets to haul around. thats like challenging a guy to a race and then going and hooking up a U-Haul trailer to your car :bang:
By 400 I meant plus the driver. The car is always going to have one person so that's not really extra weight. But 400 pounds out of three guys is pretty low, I don't know what I was thinking. :eyes:
They looked pretty skinny though, when they got out the car. :jest:
93transam
06-16-2005, 12:07 AM
I hope you pull great numbers from the dyno, but I don't think you'll see that much HP. I have H/C and all kinds of other goodies. I have stock exhaust manifolds though. My car, N/A dyno'd 383rwhp. Long tubes should put me over 400rwhp!
Yeah I have been looking around everyone's sigs trying to get a rough estimate of what it's puttin down. When I get the motivation I'll take it to get dynoed. I hear hot weather zaps power so I probably goning to wait until fall or at least a cold front. It hot as hell down herrr!!!
Anymore GTO info people. I'm going to hunt that guy down in the GTO too and see what happens. :drive:
BlueSix
06-16-2005, 01:19 AM
A lot of dealers started putting the '05 hoods on some of the later moving '04 model's in an effort to get them to sell.
Got Me SOM
06-16-2005, 09:23 AM
The GSR probably had a Jackson Racing Supercharger and all the bolt ons, which is good for mid- low 13's.
CharlieCobra03
06-16-2005, 09:58 AM
Just a little bit huh? :jest: :)
Yeah, just a little, now it'd be about 15 cars. I guess I'll have to redo my sig soon. :nod:
93transam
06-16-2005, 10:50 AM
The GSR probably had a Jackson Racing Supercharger and all the bolt ons, which is good for mid- low 13's.
That jives with what I saw on sat then. 05 GTO's are supposed to put down 13 sec quarters right, so with 4 guys in one that would put them in the mid or high 13's I guess if not higher, and it looked like the Integra put half a car on him. I think I feel confident enough to place a friendly bet. :devil: He is cocky enough to take one. I am going to see if I can get this on camera.
93transam
06-16-2005, 10:52 AM
Yeah, just a little, now it'd be about 15 cars. I guess I'll have to redo my sig soon. :nod:
Yeah speaking of sigs, I hope mine will read STS Turbo kit and 8 PSI within the near future. :drive: :nod:
CharlieCobra03
06-16-2005, 03:19 PM
Yeah speaking of sigs, I hope mine will read STS Turbo kit and 8 PSI within the near future. :drive: :nod:
Yumm, turbo..., the only thing about the STS is that someone might steal it from behind the bumper. Just a strange place to put one IMO.
reocamaro
06-16-2005, 04:05 PM
Yumm, turbo..., the only thing about the STS is that someone might steal it from behind the bumper. Just a strange place to put one IMO.
^
Not trying to be belligerent at all but...
I love this one! I don't really worry about someone stealing my STS because if you spend all your time worrying about it then you're never going to enjoy it. More people wonder what the hell it is over ... hmm... how can I steal it.
On a thread related topic,I'd say that you should be able to keep it close over pulling it. If it was an 04 he raced then the GSR should be fun. If it was the 05, IMO it's going to be dead even.
WhitePheonix
06-16-2005, 07:09 PM
I have a friend who has a GSR that is tuned to the max. Jackson racing 8#, heads, cams, full exhaust, vtec controller etc. You should walk him no problem. My buddies GSR is quick for what it is, but it won't take an LS1
black01_WS6
06-16-2005, 08:21 PM
I was just at the dyno in my home town when I put down my #'s below and a 05 GTO with exhaust and intake only put down 308 to the wheels. I have a crx with a jackson racing supercharger running 12#'s and it moves pretty good. I say you should be able to take out both cars. have fun hunting.
ws6sojuiced01
06-16-2005, 10:02 PM
I was just at the dyno in my home town when I put down my #'s below and a 05 GTO with exhaust and intake only put down 308 to the wheels. I have a crx with a jackson racing supercharger running 12#'s and it moves pretty good. I say you should be able to take out both cars. have fun hunting.
I think i seen you dyno pull was it at the pontiac car show on june 4. I was like one of the last cars to go
93transam
06-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Well hopefully I catch him out on sat, and get it on video!! Thanks for the info guys.
98SuperSport
06-17-2005, 12:24 AM
Yeah speaking of sigs, I hope mine will read STS Turbo kit and 8 PSI within the near future. :drive: :nod:
me too :devil:
jonlee
06-17-2005, 02:13 AM
But what about the GTO? How do they do against F-bodys? I can get a pretty good estimate of what I'll do against the Integra if I can get a comparison on a GTO. Keep in mind the GTO had 4 guys sitting in it so around 400 pounds was added on to the driver/car weight. I probably will go from a roll just because I'm not use to launching it. It has an SLP short shifter and it's kinda tricky to shift. M6 newbie here.
4 guys= 400 pounds?! damn.... they must be midgets or something...
jonlee
06-17-2005, 02:14 AM
I was just at the dyno in my home town when I put down my #'s below and a 05 GTO with exhaust and intake only put down 308 to the wheels. I have a crx with a jackson racing supercharger running 12#'s and it moves pretty good. I say you should be able to take out both cars. have fun hunting.
that's bullsh!t... i put down more hp than 308 rwhp.
93transam
06-17-2005, 01:30 PM
that's bullsh!t... i put down more hp than 308 rwhp.
How much do you put down? Any times? The 05's are a huge improvement over the 04.
400 pounds three guys I know I know.
Didn't think that one through. :bang:
m8d2run
06-17-2005, 03:23 PM
i haven't dynoed mine yet but from what i'm hearing, 05 gto's are puting down 330-345 at the wheels, if the guy only put down 308 with those mods he got a lemon motor because that translate to 362 at the crank.......maybe that guys has an 04 but with those numbers its not an 05 with the LS2 :)
93transam
06-17-2005, 04:24 PM
i haven't dynoed mine yet but from what i'm hearing, 05 gto's are puting down 330-345 at the wheels, if the guy only put down 308 with those mods he got a lemon motor because that translate to 362 at the crank.......maybe that guys has an 04 but with those numbers its not an 05 with the LS2 :)
Take it to the track yet? Race anybody?
Dwayne98c5
06-17-2005, 06:26 PM
My question is if I shift good, can I pull a new GTO(with the LS2)? Not worried about the GTO I just want to take out my cocky friend in the Integra. With the 99 TA by the way not the LT1. (No insurance and its parked until it's sold.)
I've owned 2 lt1 f-bodies and by no mean can a stock lt1 pull an 05 GTO. I have an 05 GTO auto and with 700 miles on it 100% stock went a 13.23 @ 106.4 on a 78 degree day. Now I have to believe that once broke in and on a cooler day the car will go 13.00's and probably pick up some mph. I thought the times they had posted in the brocher were BS when I read them , but after taking it to the strip and proving it to myself on the street against ls1 f-bodies I am convinced. I have close to 1,800 miles on the car and will be getting it back to the track on a cool day. I will keep you posted.
ActionJack
06-17-2005, 07:17 PM
1st: we are not being asked the outcome of the Integra in another race minus the 4 people so that IMO is not important.
2nd: the GTO had the 6 litre badging so I say it is a LS2 and not just a hood thrown on a LS1 GTO.
3rd: with the mods you have on your 99' (even without a tune) I am sure your car will walk a LS2 GTO.
That said, you will beat a stock LS2 GTO that is stock so long as you are a good driver and know how to use your M6.
*edit
My bad... :embarrassed:
To correct My response...
You will kill the Integra even if you have a camera guy in your car and he is the only driver in the Integra and weighs 100 lbs less than you.
You vs a 05 GTO is another story.
I apologize for the misundestanding on my part.
ActionJack
06-17-2005, 07:19 PM
I've owned 2 lt1 f-bodies and by no mean can a stock lt1 pull an 05 GTO. I have an 05 GTO auto and with 700 miles on it 100% stock went a 13.23 @ 106.4 on a 78 degree day. Now I have to believe that once broke in and on a cooler day the car will go 13.00's and probably pick up some mph. I thought the times they had posted in the brocher were BS when I read them , but after taking it to the strip and proving it to myself on the street against ls1 f-bodies I am convinced. I have close to 1,800 miles on the car and will be getting it back to the track on a cool day. I will keep you posted.
FWIW, I think my car with fewer mods than his 99' would walk your GTO.
:devil:
GTO WITH 4 PEOPLE, just take out all but driver and would not have been a race, guaranteed!
black01_WS6
06-17-2005, 11:18 PM
It was a sliver 05 gto that put down 308 and he was an automatic.
ws6sojuiced- that was me at the show, and the dyno. did you put down the numbers in your sig or are those old #'s. I had to leave after I ran mine.
ws6sojuiced01
06-18-2005, 01:11 AM
It was a sliver 05 gto that put down 308 and he was an automatic.
ws6sojuiced- that was me at the show, and the dyno. did you put down the numbers in your sig or are those old #'s. I had to leave after I ran mine.
Yes them are the numbers from the same day.
Dwayne98c5
06-18-2005, 10:07 AM
FWIW, I think my car with fewer mods than his 99' would walk your GTO.
:devil:
Well, considering we both live in Michigan and mabey even near the same city name a place and you can see what a stock 05 GTO does against you modded LS-1 F-body. By the way I live in Macomb ( 21 mile & Card). Where abouts do you live? Gratiot cruz tonight, mabey I'll see ya out there. :engarde:
Dwayne :usa:
93transam
06-18-2005, 10:32 AM
The 99 is tuned. It actually runs a little rich because the last guy said he was planning on running nitrous but he ran out of money. I wonder if I should lean it out a little sometimes.(? for a another section)
I actually raced him in the LT1 from 20 and he walked all over me of course. I didn't even think that was worth mentioning.
13.24 huh, thats not bad at all for those heavy ass cars. I should be in the high 12's so it would be a pretty close race I guess. I can't wait to get this baby to the track so I won't have to guess. :drive:
WhitePheonix
06-18-2005, 10:57 AM
I was just at the dyno in my home town when I put down my #'s below and a 05 GTO with exhaust and intake only put down 308 to the wheels. I have a crx with a jackson racing supercharger running 12#'s and it moves pretty good. I say you should be able to take out both cars. have fun hunting.
What size engine in the crx, have a friend with one, light little car.
unit213
06-18-2005, 11:25 AM
Max sig pic is 500x150. Please reduce it. This isn't corvetteforums.
BTW...ballsy plate for not being fast.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/504000-504999/504278_56_full.jpg
black01_WS6
06-18-2005, 01:18 PM
I have the D16A, waiting for it to blow up. im thinking about putting the civic hybrid motor in for gas milage. that would be sweet.
Dwayne98c5
06-19-2005, 12:03 PM
Max sig pic is 500x150. Please reduce it. This isn't corvetteforums.
BTW...ballsy plate for not being fast.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/504000-504999/504278_56_full.jpg
That's not my real plate. I'm not that cocky, even if I thought the car was fast. I found a web site where you can pick your state and type what you want on your plate and it comes back with the image, so from there the rest is adobe. Sorry about the sig pic size.
unit213
06-19-2005, 12:44 PM
Thats not my real plate. I'm not that cocky even if I thout the car was fast. I found a web site where you can pick your state and type what you want on your plate and it comes back with the image, so from there the rest is adobe. Sorry about the sig pic size.
Whew...you've restored my faith in 'vette owners! :D No problem on the sig pic thing. Nice ride! :thumb:
Dwayne98c5
06-19-2005, 03:28 PM
13.24 huh, thats not bad at all for those heavy ass cars. I should be in the high 12's so it would be a pretty close race I guess. I can't wait to get this baby to the track so I won't have to guess. :drive:
Ya, the goats are sure fat asses. It would be nice to see what kind of times the car would run if they came in weighing the same as the f-bodies.
98SuperSport
06-19-2005, 06:16 PM
I was just at the dyno in my home town when I put down my #'s below and a 05 GTO with exhaust and intake only put down 308 to the wheels.
was he flooring it? :jest:
jonlee
06-19-2005, 07:29 PM
ok the story about that 05 is this: the first couple runs, he did have 308 to the wheels... was pretty confused and read a post on ls1gto... disconnected the battery and waited 30 minutes... did 2 more pulls and ended up pulling 352 rwhp! a far cry from 308...
93transam
06-19-2005, 07:43 PM
Took out the Inregra from a 40 roll. As soon as he honked I immediately pulled ahead and put 2 cars on him until maybe 80 or 90. After that I don't how much more I put on him. I let off at 110. It was a fun race, and he is a cool guy. He had his gf with him and I was by myself. Need to find that GTO with LS2. :devil:
ActionJack
06-20-2005, 01:24 PM
Took out the Inregra from a 40 roll. As soon as he honked I immediately pulled ahead and put 2 cars on him until maybe 80 or 90. After that I don't how much more I put on him. I let off at 110. It was a fun race, and he is a cool guy. He had his gf with him and I was by myself. Need to find that GTO with LS2. :devil:
That is what I figured. Good luck with the GTO. I think you have a good chance with it as well, not as good (not nearly), but a good chance.
:cheers:
ActionJack
06-20-2005, 05:38 PM
Well, considering we both live in Michigan and mabey even near the same city name a place and you can see what a stock 05 GTO does against you modded LS-1 F-body. By the way I live in Macomb ( 21 mile & Card). Where abouts do you live? Gratiot cruz tonight, mabey I'll see ya out there. :engarde:
Dwayne :usa:
I sent ya a PM. I did not see this until today otherwise I could have met up with you at the Gratiot Cruise.
A little duel would be cool... :engarde:
I am around 19 and Schoenner. Let me know.