Cadillac CTS-V - Ls6 Vs Ls2

What Is Better Ls2 Or Ls6. I Know The Ls6 Is More Rare. The Ls2 Is In Everything. Please Reply

Out of the box the LS2 is better. Fatter and flatter power band. For mods the LS6 is better in the CTS-V as there's more out there on the shelf right now. However I'm sure most pieces are interchangeable as far as heads, cams, CAI kits, etc. Not sure on the headers though if the ports differ.

The LS6 is better because it's in my car. The LS2 has cooties. :jest:

Seriously though, did you know that July is National Blueberry Month? :cool:

ls6 all the way.

Here's Why:

1 There's a reason it was in the special edition corvettes (known as the z06).
2 More Efficient HP than ls2 (5.7 liter making 400 hp vs. 6.0 liter)
3 Cooler to say "i've got a z06 motor"
4 Every new vette, SSR, goat, Trailblazer SS, yada yada yada has them.
5 CTS-V was designed with the z06 motor in mind, not the ls2
6 More aftermarket goodies currently available
7 The Strut tower brace says LS6, not LS2
8 Its the Z06 Motor
9 Its the Z06 Motor
10 Its the Z06 Motor
11 Its the Z06 Motor
12 Its the Z06 Motor
13 Its the Z06 Motor
14 Its the Z06 Motor
15 Its the one that's in MY car :drive: Therefore, better

Hope this shed some light,

Ben

hello people, im new here..... i got my v 30 days ago..... and loving every minute . Ill be posting my impressions, but so far i have to say cadillac has hit a grand slam. I jammed the brakes from around 93 mph and i thought to my self " BMW" never felt this good. I know ive been driving them for 20 years. This baby is a real sweet, she corners beautifully. I her ran around some of my favorite secret wiggles and wow, she's on rails. From the launch she violent, quite a dramatic thing, the hop @5500 to for taste i love it, reminds me of first ave days......joe 207

ls6 is a better motor, more rare, more design into it, they can both make a ton of power but thats not the question. LS6 all the way

The LS6 is a better speed engine. The LS2 is a better base engine to have in a car as it doesnt need revving to pull but the LS6 is better. There has been many tests of the old zo6 vs the new base corvette and the old zo6 pulls better. LS6 for the win


John

My new favorite word - LSpooh

My new favorite word - LSpooh
:lol: :werd:

Since I have both-LS6 in my V and LS2 in my C6--I think I can give an intelligent opinion (at least I hope so). So much as it hurts me, since I like my C6 but LOVE my V, the LS2 is a mcuh better engine. Smoother, better power band. etc.

Of course, let's wait until the V gets the LS7.

Certainly not wanting to rain on everyones parade shouldn't you really look at the characteristics of the engine in determining which is "better"?

The LS2 is in a way more an LS6 than anything at all. Given the fact that it shares identical LS6 heads and a 2001 Z06 cam. The revlimit is likewise 6,600 and the compression has been raised to 10.9:1. The LS2 incorporates a 90mm throttle body and has an entirely new (not so great) PCM.

I certainly enjoy driving LS6 cars and also LS2 cars. They are just a little different. Where the LS6 really comes to life up top the LS2 just continues to pull from just about anywhere in the rev range.

Sure their will be fewer LS6's on the road but does that really make an engine better?

As I stated above, the PCM is completey different in the LS2 cars and incorporates many more fail safe features that are zapping performance in less than ideal conditions. Torque Management on both automatic and 6-speed cars is also a concern. Removal of such devices has created some beasts without any bolt-on's what so ever.

Just my opinion.

Seriously though, did you know that July is National Blueberry Month? :cool:


Shit ! I forgot that... :mad:

Certainly not wanting to rain on everyones parade shouldn't you really look at the characteristics of the engine in determining which is "better"?

The LS2 is in a way more an LS6 than anything at all. Given the fact that it shares identical LS6 heads and a 2001 Z06 cam. The revlimit is likewise 6,600 and the compression has been raised to 10.9:1. The LS2 incorporates a 90mm throttle body and has an entirely new (not so great) PCM.

I certainly enjoy driving LS6 cars and also LS2 cars. They are just a little different. Where the LS6 really comes to life up top the LS2 just continues to pull from just about anywhere in the rev range.

Sure their will be fewer LS6's on the road but does that really make an engine better?

As I stated above, the PCM is completey different in the LS2 cars and incorporates many more fail safe features that are zapping performance in less than ideal conditions. Torque Management on both automatic and 6-speed cars is also a concern. Removal of such devices has created some beasts without any bolt-on's what so ever.

Just my opinion.


You have covered evrything....LS2 nudges out with a slight advantage in my book.

ls6 is a better motor, more rare, more design into it, they can both make a ton of power but thats not the question. LS6 all the way
How does an older motor have more design into it? You think they just start out fresh with every motor they make

ls6 just cause it was made for the zo6 as apposed to the ls2 which was made for the regular corvette :burn:

So many of you who have LS6 motors sound like Viper owners trying to defend your car against a cheaper and better performing C6ZO6. It's rarer, it looks better, blah blah.

What you just said has nothing to do with whether one motor is a better motor than the other. The LS2 motor is a better motor, especially when it comes to potential. Many of you will really start to realize it when tuning software and more mods come out for it. There's no replacement for displacement.

This is a good topic.

My .02

I'd prefer the LS6 over the LS2 at least for the time being.

There are more mods/ parts available for the LS6 simply because it has been exposed to the market longer than the LS2. Picking one engine over the other based on which car they are in is an unfair way to base a comparison off of. And saying the LS2 is smoother than the LS6 when comparing them in 2 totally different cars is unfair as well.

If anyone read the latest Corvette Quarterly it compared a Z51 (LS2) Vette vs the 04 Z06 (LS6) on a race track. The 04 Z06 inched out the 05 in performance. The LS6 car put up about a second quicker lap times than the LS2. They are both very good engines, and each have their own characteristics and really in each case racing those cars, the little difference there is in perforamance, the better driver would always win. I would consider the LS2 to not be fully dialed in yet. I'm sure they may some new parts on it, so its a damn good engine already, and I do think there is more potential in the LS2. We'll have to see how good it reacts to modifications when more are available, but for now, I think its too early to compare apples to oranges.

REVIVAL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now that the ls2 has had time to come out of the closet a little bit and with all the performance mods available...

what is your opinion on this subject now????? lol

REVIVAL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now that the ls2 has had time to come out of the closet a little bit and with all the performance mods available...

what is your opinion on this subject now????? lol

same as its always been, more displacement usally means more gains and potential and it all depends what you wanna do, stock for stock id still take the ls6 but thats my own opinion.

your beating a dead horse though really.

Supercharged LSX bitches!!! I cant believe I have 3 more years til I get one! 8-(

Figured I'd participate rather than just lurk for once.

That Corvette graph seems weird, because it shows the LS6 only reaching a torque peak of 390 lb-ft, but it was rated at 400 lb-ft @ 4,800 rpm in the '02-04 Z06.

Here's the CTS-V graphs overlaid:

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/aurora402002/ls2ls6.jpg

put an 05V an 06V heads up bone stock and youd never be able to tell which car had which motor. bottom line

put an 05V an 06V heads up bone stock and youd never be able to tell which car had which motor. bottom line

A good friend of mine has an '05V and he comments every time he drives mine about the low-end difference.

We've yet to race them though. Partly because we were both tire limited, he has General UHP's and I had RS-A's (now Wintersport M3's). So it seemed like more of an exercise in traction management than any kind of performance comparo.

But I'd like to run them some day just to see.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not trying to fuel any kind of angst or hate or whatever seems to go on about the motors. But the LS2 clearly has more average horsepower and torque. Therefore, all else equal, it will be faster. A lot faster? No. Noticeably faster? I dunno, probably not easily, but there is about a 20 lb-ft difference for about a 2,000 RPM window. Not huge, but not trivial either.

I bought an LS2 car because it was still under the original warranty, and I could find one in the colors and miles I was looking for. I'd happily own an LS6 car if it had met those criteria too. But they were all too old to still be under the original 4/48 warranty.

Both engines are Great but if you use a Supercharger the edge goes to the LS-6 due to its valves (run cooler) and the almost .5 in compression. On a Supercharger that makes a Big difference.

The 4" bore of the LS2 opens up the opportunity for LS3 head/intake setups...but the 04-05's are so much cheaper! Both are great engines.

***EDIT*** Nevermind. Didn't realize this thread was over 5 years old...:rolleyes:


So many of you who have LS6 motors sound like Viper owners trying to defend your car against a cheaper and better performing C6ZO6. It's rarer, it looks better, blah blah.
I own an '08 Viper. I wasn't aware the C6ZO6 performed better than the Gen4 Viper? How?:confused:

The Viper is definitely more rare. Looks are subjective, but you have to admit the Viper is waaay more aggressive/tougher looking.



There's no replacement for displacement.

You said it - not me. 510 cubic inch Veee-Ten.:D







With that said, I honestly have no idea if the LS6 or LS2 is better, but I'd love to own a ZO6 as well. I need a 3rd job...

your beating a dead horse though really.

http://lifecaffeine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/beating-a-dead-horse.jpg

Supercharged LSX bitches!!! I cant believe I have 3 more years til I get one! 8-(


you wont have your V in three years...haha. i hope i have a V2 in about 2 years.

I am not sure that it is worth upgrading to LS 3 Heads, Hot Rod just compared all Factory and Aftermarket Heads and Ported LS 6 Heads beat them all. Not by much but thru the Bandwith they were better. Dollar for Dollar Supercharging is the way to add another 130 HP and not loose any driveablity. We sell Magnachargers, call us, our installs look better then factory. As far as Viper - Vette every year in the last 10 the Vette beat the Viper over all and for alot less money. Vipers are a nice car but I also have a Vette and will always go that way 1st. Topline Viper from factory against ZL-1 Vette, Vette won. Althou if I was to go new it would be the Z06 and add a Magnacharger, same or better performance and a lot more money in the pocket. As far as the 2004-05 V's being a lot cheaper then the 2006-2007 V's, sorry I don't see that either as matter of fact since the New V's the prices have held or even gone up a little in the Chicago Market for a low to moderate mileage car.

As far as the 2004-05 V's being a lot cheaper then the 2006-2007 V's, sorry I don't see that either as matter of fact since the New V's the prices have held or even gone up a little in the Chicago Market for a low to moderate mileage car.

Thank you for noticing this as well. I thought I was going crazy as I've noticed this as too. A few years ago, before I bought my Saab they were more readily available, and more reasonably priced. The V2s have definitely increased the resale prices of used V1s. I remember seeing them a few years ago listed in the mid teens with 20,000 miles on them. Now you are looking at mid 20's for something even close. There is one listed at a dealer down the street from me for $18,000 (recently reduced) with 80,000 miles on it!

I'm currently in the market for one and I am having a hard time justifying it with the prices the way they are. I'm still looking and will pull the trigger when I find the right deal on an 06 or 07.

From the research, and this is only research, it seems like the LS2 has a little more potential. Smoother torque curve and more cubes is always a good thing. The only draw back to all that torque is the weak rear-end.

I am not sure that it is worth upgrading to LS 3 Heads, Hot Rod just compared all Factory and Aftermarket Heads and Ported LS 6 Heads beat them all. Not by much but thru the Bandwith they were better. Dollar for Dollar Supercharging is the way to add another 130 HP and not loose any driveablity. We sell Magnachargers, call us, our installs look better then factory. As far as Viper - Vette every year in the last 10 the Vette beat the Viper over all and for alot less money. Vipers are a nice car but I also have a Vette and will always go that way 1st. Topline Viper from factory against ZL-1 Vette, Vette won. Althou if I was to go new it would be the Z06 and add a Magnacharger, same or better performance and a lot more money in the pocket. As far as the 2004-05 V's being a lot cheaper then the 2006-2007 V's, sorry I don't see that either as matter of fact since the New V's the prices have held or even gone up a little in the Chicago Market for a low to moderate mileage car.



I would agree that the V2's have increased or halted the decline of prices on the V1. But coming from someone who has searched for a V1 for two years, the 04's and 05's tend to be a bit cheaper. I mean, it makes sense. We can assume that most cars depreciate at a certain rate per year. More years of depreciation = lower cost. Would you disagree? There are a lot more factors that come into play here. But for two identical cars of different years, the older car is usually less expensive.

As for the LS3 vs LS6 comparison, I'm not exactly sure how you came to the conclusion that the LS6 heads outperformed the LS3 heads....here's the actual data from hotrod magazine:

Test 7
TEA LS6

Retail price: $1,320 (porting on customer-supplied head castings)
Intake valve size: 2.055
Exhaust valve size: 1.575
Intake port volume: 226 cc
Exhaust port volume: 78 cc
Chamber volume: 63 cc
Peak power: 618.1 hp at 6,300 rpm
Peak torque: 555.3 lb-ft at 5,400 rpm
Average horsepower (3,000-6,500): 476.1 hp
Average torque (3,000-6,500): 521.8 lb-ft
Torque at 4,000 rpm: 515.1 lb-ft

FLOW DATA: CFM (AT 28 INCHES)
LIFT
INTAKE
EXHAUST

0.050
33
26

0.100
66
60

0.200
144
118

0.300
214
163

0.400
269
199

0.500
310
223

0.600
329
235

0.650
330
230

0.700
310
231

It seems like just about everyone with a grinder offers ported stock LS1/2/6 heads, so naturally we had to choose at least one set for our test. It didn't make much sense to have 20 to 30 sets of ported LS1/2/6 heads, so we decided to pick one set to represent what was possible with the factory castings. Naturally, we selected the cream of the crop in terms of factory castings-the LS6 head. Our ported LS6 heads came from the flow wizards at Total Engine Airflow. The TEA Stage 2 heads featured the requisite CNC porting, a 2.055/1.575 valve package, and 63cc combustion chambers. As delivered from TEA, the LS6 heads offer 330 cfm combined with impressive midlift flow numbers. It bears mentioning that the ported LS6 head was the lightest of the bunch, which as you know is the same as offering more power. Down just a few horsepower compared with the best of the bunch, porting a set of stock heads is obviously a very cost-effective alternative to purchasing new castings-especially if you already own a set of LS6 heads.


Test 5
Mast Black Label LS3 (Small Bore)

Retail price: $2,998
Intake valve size: 2.165
Exhaust valve size: 1.60
Intake port volume: 257 cc
Exhaust port volume: 86 cc
Chamber volume: 64 cc
Peak power: 620.1 hp at 6,600 rpm
Peak torque: 563.3 lb-ft at 5,300 rpm
Average horsepower (3,000-6,500): 477.4 hp
Average torque (3,000-6,500): 523.4 lb-ft
Torque at 4,000 rpm: 514.3 lb-ft

FLOW DATA: CFM (AT 28 INCHES)
LIFT
INTAKE
EXHAUST

0.050
34
24

0.100
70
52

0.200
142
110

0.300
215
143

0.400
274
205

0.500
313
225

0.600
342
239

0.650
352
247

0.700
335
250

We know this rectangular-port head really doesn't belong in this cathedral-port head test, but we included it for a number of reasons. One was the fact that (just like the cathedral-port heads) this small-bore rectangular-port LS3 head was designed specifically for a 4.030-bore application. As such, the Mast head is a market competitor for the cathedral-port heads, despite the LS3 intake and offset rocker arms required. The second reason is that we wanted to see just how the considerable change in port volume (compared with most of the cathedral-port heads) might affect the low-speed power production. The general consensus is that larger port volumes decrease cylinder filling at lower engine speeds. Were that the case, we'd expect the big ports on the Mast LS3 heads to lose power down low, but that was not the case, as despite intake port volumes of 257 cc and the largest 2.165-inch intake valves, the Mast heads offered the highest peak torque output of 563 lb-ft at 5,300 rpm. The oversized port volumes didn't hinder the average power numbers, either. As we went to press, Mast announced it is introducing a far bigger line of 14 different LS heads, including cathedral ports.


....So I guess GM made a mistake in creating the LS3. They should have just stuck with the LS6 right? Everyone on LS1tech is going to be really disappointed when they find out that the $ they just spent on their LS3/L92 - 370/4XX setups was a complete waste! I'm not saying the 243 heads are bad...far from that. But changes (improvements) are made for a reason, and the reason usually is not to decrease performance. But, for everyone's sake, I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. Its obvious that you own a "Viper" and have it all figured out.

Ls6 = gen iii
ls2 = gen iv = stronger block

Ls6 = gen iii
ls2 = gen iv = stronger block

they are both aluminum blocks and i doubt youd see much if any difference in how much power they can hold. An iron block 6.0 yea, but not an aluminum.

as for the 243 heads vs ls3 heads on an ls2..........ls3 heads/cam will blow a 243/cam car away power wise.

i would go with the motor which offers more displacement. both are very similar, but once you start modding the gap grows.

Okay I admit I screwed up on the LS6 - LS3 head must have skipped over the part about the LS3. However they did state that all around you could not beat the Ported LS6 head. But as far as the comment on the Viper goes, it funny On a different forum I stated that for the last 10 years the Vette has the Viper every year including this year with the ZL-1. However I would rather buy the Z06, put a Magna supercharger on it and have over $20,000.00 in my pocket. Besides my V my other Toy is a 79 Twin Turbo Vette 1100 Hp, Pumped Gas with a :engarde:Snow System on it and I Love to pick on Vipers. Who would think a 79 Vette could beat a lot of Vipers?

ls6 all the way.

Here's why:

1 there's a reason it was in the special edition corvettes (known as the z06).
2 more efficient hp than ls2 (5.7 liter making 400 hp vs. 6.0 liter)
3 cooler to say "i've got a z06 motor"
4 every new vette, ssr, goat, trailblazer ss, yada yada yada has them.
5 cts-v was designed with the z06 motor in mind, not the ls2
6 more aftermarket goodies currently available
7 the strut tower brace says ls6, not ls2
8 its the z06 motor
9 its the z06 motor
10 its the z06 motor
11 its the z06 motor
12 its the z06 motor
13 its the z06 motor
14 its the z06 motor
15 its the one that's in my car :drive: Therefore, better

hope this shed some light,

ben

^^^^ yes :D

Ls6 ftw!!!

Ls6 ftw!!!

i think what all of us really thing is...

LSA FTW!

I'd probably take the LS2 with a little extra cubes.

i think what all of us really thing is...

LSA FTW!

Werd..:chug:

i think what all of us really thing is...

LSA FTW!

Agreed!

With the new V's LSA, the ls6 vs ls2 debate is like deciding what older fat chick to bring home from the bar, just pick one and get it over with.

Agreed!

With the new V's LSA, the ls6 vs ls2 debate is like deciding what older fat chick to bring home from the bar, just pick one and get it over with.

bahahahaha...perfect metaphor :chug:

Well, I would prefer the ls2 due to what happens when you throw a 4" stroker crank in each block, ones becomes a honed to a 383 and the other, well, honed to a 408.

How about this if your car came with the LS6 then the LS6, if it came with the LS2 than the LS2. These cars like the Impala SS and are becoming collectors with low miles. If you take a LS6 up against a LS2 it will matter more the driver then anything else, 1/4 mile times show that. However if I was to Supercharge one over the other it would be the LS6 with the .5 less compression and the Sodium filled vales.

How about this if your car came with the LS6 then the LS6, if it came with the LS2 than the LS2. These cars like the Impala SS and are becoming collectors with low miles. If you take a LS6 up against a LS2 it will matter more the driver then anything else, 1/4 mile times show that. However if I was to Supercharge one over the other it would be the LS6 with the .5 less compression and the Sodium filled vales.

ls2 will make more power with a blower.

Disagree, the computer will pull more timing out because of the higher compression, less timing less horse power. It is amazing that I make 2 other great points and the focus goes too the LS 2 will make more horsepower with the blower. In the 1/4 mile what is the difference in time? between a .1 and .2 that is a little over a bumper. Reaction time, shifting speed, traction mean more. What is faster a LS6 with a cold air intake or a stock LS2? What worth more a 2005 CTS-V with 25,000 miles or a 2007 CTS-V with 90,000 miles? Which one of those would be faster? Why do I bring that up? The debate is which one is better? Well unless we are talking about 2 different enginess out of the car being put into a car then yes the LS2 as long as it has less miles would have a slight edge however if we are talking a numbers matching car with low to moderate miles I would never replace a LS6 with a LS2.

V1 will not be a collector car I hate to tell you. They have dropped over 30k in value from when they were new and are still on the decline. If anyone is content on keeping there car numbers matching they lying to themselves.

Rare-yes
Collectors car-no way

bahahahaha...perfect metaphor :chug:

Agreed...I literally LOL'd when I read this one......I have nothing to add, which is rare for my loud mouth and sarcastic self to be left silent..... GOOD ONE INDEED.:chug:

In the Chicagoland Market they have not only stabilized but gone up a little and if it was not for the Recession I do not think they would have come down like they did. People said the same thing about a Impala SS and those are now considered a Collector and I believe I am not the only one who feels the CTS-V will too. To be clear, I am not saying they will be a High Desired Collector but they will be a Collector

Agreed!

With the new V's LSA, the ls6 vs ls2 debate is like deciding what older fat chick to bring home from the bar, just pick one and get it over with.

Those fat old chicks might last longer, are easier to please, and don't complain much when you wail on them. That new skinny chick costs you and arm and a leg, doesn't like to be played with and when she gets too hot she slows down when you want her most. In all seriousness though the LSA is a fantastic motor but for some guys the blower is an obstacle especially when you like the road course. I wouldn't turn one down though.;) The new V2 coupe SCCA World Challenge car would surprise everyone if it was LSA powered.

The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.

"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."

"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"

"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"

"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"

"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"

"Oh....that's cool, I guess."

At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.

The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.

"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."

"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"

"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"

"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"

"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"

"Oh....that's cool, I guess."

At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
Yea and that ls2 in a more recent corvette was slower then the c5 zo6 and the c5 Z beat it in just about every event they paired them up in. the LS2 C6 is a step down IMO and was a mistake on GMs part. The LS3 shits all over the LS2 in every way just like the LSA shits all over the ls6/ls2 in the V1s.

Yea and that ls2 in a more recent corvette was slower then the c5 zo6 and the c5 Z beat it in just about every event they paired them up in. the LS2 C6 is a step down IMO and was a mistake on GMs part. The LS3 shits all over the LS2 in every way just like the LSA shits all over the ls6/ls2 in the V1s.

I'm sorry, I have to take issue with this. It is such a ridiculous statement.

In 2004, the C5 Z06 started at $51,500. A 2005 C6 started at $43,700, and offered performance that was much closer to the Z06 than it was to a base C5. A C5 Z06 is slightly faster and handles better, but it's also a total stripper. You can't even get a power passenger seat. The C6 offered performance that is quite close, and a noticeable improvement over the C5 coupe. But had nice options like HUD, Nav, HID's, magnetic ride, huge trunk, etc. Or you could just get a stripper with Z51 for about $45,000 and have a car that was very close to a C5 Z but substantially cheaper.

And it was exactly one year between the C5 Z06, and the C6 Z06, which is absolutely and completely better than the C5 Z.

If you look at stock LS2 vs LS3 times for Corvettes in the 1/4, they are not far apart. The idea that the difference between the LS2 to LS3 is comparable to difference between the LSA and the LS2 is ridiculous.

The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.

"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."

"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"

"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"

"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"

"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"

"Oh....that's cool, I guess."

At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.

LOL! That's true having a V1 period. Several people who've asked, I've had to explain it's not the 556hp supercharged car. In fact, one guy at work with a 260-hp Mustang GT was all excited: "Man, those things have like 500hp"

"No, it's not that one, the supercharged one with 556hp. It's the one before it"

"Oh... So how much horsepower does it have?"

"400"

"Oh... Hmm... Well... that's not so bad"

I really had to bite my tongue on that one.

So, who wants to buy my Bone Stock 6,400 mile '05 LS6 collector car?

Make me a stupid-high offer(and I do mean stoooopid), otherwise I'm going to continue to rack the miles on this thing! :D

So, who wants to buy my Bone Stock 6,400 mile '05 LS6 collector car?

Make me a stupid-high offer(and I do mean stoooopid), otherwise I'm going to continue to rack the miles on this thing! :D

What have you quadrupled the mileage on your V since you bought it? I thought I remember it having around 1,600 or something ridiculous like that? I have a friend who inherited a 79 Vette from his dad that had 16,xxx on it. His uncles raised PURE HELL because he began driving it to work every Friday and on Sat and Sun. He told me his dad's biggest regret was having a car for 30 years and never enjoying it.....If you have it drive it...There are enough garage queens in the world already....FTW

What have you quadrupled the mileage on your V since you bought it? I thought I remember it having around 1,600 or something ridiculous like that? I have a friend who inherited a 79 Vette from his dad that had 16,xxx on it. His uncles raised PURE HELL because he began driving it to work every Friday and on Sat and Sun. He told me his dad's biggest regret was having a car for 30 years and never enjoying it.....If you have it drive it...There are enough garage queens in the world already....FTW

Basically, Yep!

Car had 1,380 miles back in June 2010 when I bought it. I do approx. 10,000 miles/year. So even if I keep it for the full 3 years of the warranty I purchased, it'll still only have 32,000+/- miles on it and by then be an eight year old car = still very low mileage for the year.:D

Who knows, if it treats me well it may stick around longer, but by then the V2's will be depreciated to a point that may be too hard to resist.



As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah, Winter sucks.:321:

Basically, Yep!

Car had 1,380 miles back in June 2010 when I bought it. I do approx. 10,000 miles/year. So even if I keep it for the full 3 years of the warranty I purchased, it'll still only have 32,000+/- miles on it and by then be an eight year old car = still very low mileage for the year.:D

Who knows, if it treats me well it may stick around longer, but by then the V2's will be depreciated to a point that may be too hard to resist.



As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah, Winter sucks.:321:

Well I've done about 35k on mine in the past 9 mos.....I just saw that you're in PA...I couldn't imagine those winters and the abuse it puts on cars. I did one Winter in Cincinnati and I came my big ASS right back to Alabama...Anything below 40 degrees and my seat heaters are on.

same as its always been, more displacement usally means more gains and potential and it all depends what you wanna do, stock for stock id still take the ls6 but thats my own opinion.

your beating a dead horse though really.

I agree, unfortunately I have the LS6 putting down 440 but you can bet with the LS2 I would be putting down bigger numbers due to more cubic inch. More cubes is the way to go but this is only if you plan for Mod Hell!! My 2 cents :D

As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah, Winter sucks.:321:

I've had two Vipers and one with 800 rwhp so PM me if you need Mod Hell ideas or just minor mods for better daily driver fun! :devil:

A good place to get parts from is www.partsrack.com .

I've had two Vipers and one with 800 rwhp so PM me if you need Mod Hell ideas or just minor mods for better daily driver fun! :devil:

A good place to get parts from is www.partsrack.com .

2 Vipers and now a 9 IRS V...i hate you more and more each day, haha. :cheers:

:hijack: and post a couple pics of your old Vipers. i dont think anyone would care with this thread really being 5 years old, and a pointless topic (IMO) with the V2 LSA around now.

...unless you that select few the have that have an 800hp monster that post every now and then, or a fresh TT V1 :drool:.

I've had two Vipers and one with 800 rwhp so PM me if you need Mod Hell ideas or just minor mods for better daily driver fun! :devil:

A good place to get parts from is www.partsrack.com .

Thanks, but my '08 has got a few already.

3.55's
H/F Cats and Corsa
Mopar PCM
Green Filter
Woodhouse Poly Engine Mounts

Next on the list is a DC Performance Ported Intake Manifold, but that'll be Spring now.


I had it to Atco back in November for the first time. Only got 2 runs in and the bagged the first one not knowing how sticky the track was - 11.88 @ 125 - bogging off the line and shifting really s-l-o-w. It was cold that day and I figured for sure I'd be going sideways in 2nd and 3rd, so I took it real easy.

Turns out the track was pretty sticky, so my second run I launched a bit harder at ~2,500rpm and still bogged a bit. Shifted faster(but no powershifting) 11.4 @ 128 with a 1.90 60'.

I had similar mods on my '06 Viper and managed some 1.7x 60's. If I can do that with my '08, I figure 11 oh's/ 11.1x's should come pretty easy.