Stereo & Electronics - Sub cuts out? HELP
01Lowboy
07-17-2005, 07:01 PM
i've got a pioneer 760w amp (380rms) runnin to a 10" solo baric L7 in a stealthbox in my t-top 00 SS. the sub/amp combo is hooked up through a linelevel converter tapped into the speaker outputs via the wiring harness to the stock monsoon amp in the rear. my problem is this, when the volume reaches a certain point the sub will cut off but the on light is still there for the amp. is it that the amp isnt getting enough power supplied through the cable to the battery? or something to do with the line level converter running to the wires coming out of the stock amp and that the two amps may be cancelling eachother out?
the power cable right now is a 10ga
01Lowboy
07-17-2005, 08:43 PM
to the top
Z28LS1camaroguy
07-17-2005, 09:46 PM
well i know that in order for my subs to work with my factory headunit and amp i had to get some box thing that hooked to the back of the headunit in order for it to work properly. something about our headunits dont have something to run a sub without it. but if your runnin yours from the amp then might be a wire problem or a fuse.
01Lowboy
07-18-2005, 11:16 AM
i have a line level but instead of being hooked up behind the head unit, it's tapped in by the stock amp in the rear
01Lowboy
07-18-2005, 04:15 PM
anyone?
firebirdude
07-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Classic symptom of an amp kicking into protection. Probably thermal.
fox_forma
07-18-2005, 05:34 PM
your l7 is pulling to much power from the amp when its hitting the higher volume causing your amp to go into protection mode. Those L7's need a lot of power, if you were to get a bigger amp it would more than likely solve your problem. I had an 12"l7 running off a audiobahn A8000t mono amp which puts out 800rms and the sub was bumpin hard. Like i said those l7's need some decent power to work to its potential
firebirdude
07-18-2005, 05:38 PM
your l7 is pulling to much power from the amp when its hitting the higher volume causing your amp to go into protection mode. No subwoofer "pulls any power" from any amp. The amp does it's best and that's it. There is no "special power request" from the subwoofer forcing the amp into protection. :emb:
01Low, turn the gain on your amp down a touch and give it a try.
iosigma
07-18-2005, 06:16 PM
Have you check your grounds and power to the amp as well as remote turn-on. I had the same problem and it was a loose remote turn on. Everytime the bass would hit it would jar loose.
Shackelford
07-18-2005, 11:16 PM
No subwoofer "pulls any power" from any amp. The amp does it's best and that's it. There is no "special power request" from the subwoofer forcing the amp into protection. :emb:
01Low, turn the gain on your amp down a touch and give it a try.
No the sub does not technically pull power, but using a sub that wants a lot more than an amp can give is a good way to kill/overheat an amp, because the amp is maxed out the whole time. Turning down gain may/may not solve his problem, but still wont push the sub well, the ultimate solution= a beter amp :)
Shackelford
07-18-2005, 11:17 PM
That is if its in protection. It almost has to be those things want at least twice that much RMS :eek2: . Try to have a buddy hook up his bigger amp (anything around or over 700rms will work) in your car using your same conections and see if you can turn it up.
BLOW ME FASTR
07-19-2005, 09:26 AM
Replace that POS amp with some real power. Pioneer amps dont even do what the box they came in says.
fox_forma
07-19-2005, 12:40 PM
No the sub does not technically pull power, but using a sub that wants a lot more than an amp can give is a good way to kill/overheat an amp, because the amp is maxed out the whole time. Turning down gain may/may not solve his problem, but still wont push the sub well, the ultimate solution= a beter amp :)
Thats what I meant :judge: Also what about the 10gage power wire? Shouldnt that be at least 8g?
01Lowboy
07-19-2005, 01:24 PM
kool, i'll turn the gain down and see what that does for the cutting out
firebirdude
07-19-2005, 05:27 PM
No the sub does not technically pull power, but using a sub that wants a lot more than an amp can give is a good way to kill/overheat an amp, because the amp is maxed out the whole time. That's because people are greedy idiots. Trying to crank the gain knob in order to make there 100W amp push two W7's. The gain isin't a volume knob as you know, but it can be used as a regulator obviously. Set the gain properly and you won't have a problem regardless if you were trying to power 100 12W7's. You want louder? By a bigger amp. Don't get greedy. :emb:
iosigma
07-19-2005, 10:13 PM
Make sure your line level converter isn't just sending a raw signal through rca's It should change it to a consistant voltage for the amps if you have it conected through rca's. If it's not it could be sending a distorted signal to your amp thought the llc. If it's doing the that, the amp may kick into a thermal protection mode.
01Lowboy
07-19-2005, 10:39 PM
That's because people are greedy idiots. Trying to crank the gain knob in order to make there 100W amp push two W7's. The gain isin't a volume knob as you know, but it can be used as a regulator obviously. Set the gain properly and you won't have a problem regardless if you were trying to power 100 12W7's. You want louder? By a bigger amp. Don't get greedy. :emb:
greedy idiot i am not. the gain is at the factory "normal" setting on the amp. so thanks, but no thanks for ur input if it's not the least be constructive.
and no that's the the problem
Shackelford
07-20-2005, 08:18 PM
That's because people are greedy idiots. Trying to crank the gain knob in order to make there 100W amp push two W7's. The gain isin't a volume knob as you know, but it can be used as a regulator obviously. Set the gain properly and you won't have a problem regardless if you were trying to power 100 12W7's. You want louder? By a bigger amp. Don't get greedy. :emb:
He just said gain is not his problem, you can have a problem with too big of a power demand. friend of mine ran 2 idmax 12s off of a "100 watt" wal mart amp with gain not up and guess what, the amp fried :judge: :emb: not saying that the amp is absoloutly his problem but it could be.
Now as i said before arguing with this guy, try a better amp on your curent conections, and test all the other posibilities.
Shackelford
07-24-2005, 05:29 PM
Whats the update man? Figure anything out yet? :lurk:
96GrandAM
07-25-2005, 01:31 PM
i dont think is the amp dude i had the same problem..how many watts is ur sub ur probably over powering it..try a nother sub and see what happens..good luck
Shackelford
07-25-2005, 06:42 PM
i dont think is the amp dude i had the same problem..how many watts is ur sub ur probably over powering it..try a nother sub and see what happens..good luck
he is definatly not overpowering a L7 (1000+watt rms) with a "360 watt rms" (I question even that) amp.
Ls1_axxxman
07-30-2005, 12:05 AM
Sounds like ur amp is going into protection. Is the L7 dual 2ohm or dual 4ohm, you may have too low of an ohm load on that amp. I would highly recommend a larger amp though, L7's are bad ass woofers but they are power mongers. I got a memphis st1000d on my 3 IDQ 10's and thats honestly about the power range u need. You throw about 500-800 watts thru the kickers and you will love em.