yak

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I got a used set of patriot dual springs from this board last week. they are going on my car tonight. I need to know if I NEED anything else to make them work. i have the dual springs with locks, retainers and valve seats(dark grey things that look like smaller retainers.

AdamSS

iTrader: (3)

read my post #13 somewhere on the bottom, and reffer to the picture that I posted.
That's basicaly a whole kit right there

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/350467-need-help-changing-out-valvesprings.html

crainholio

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You'll want new stem seals and the necessary tools.

yak

iTrader: (15)

well here is my problem, I don't have seals and I need to have my cam by tommorow. can I use the stock seats and seals with the gold springs or can i resuse the stock seals?

yak

iTrader: (15)

for inquireing minds you can use the stock seats with the duals. my springs sit flay on the seats. now I just need to make sure I actually have a g5x3, there is nothing written on it.

crainholio

iTrader: (2)

Did you mic the setup w/ stock seats and Patriot retainers to see what installed height you'll have?

Not sure how you got to the conclusion it's OK to reuse stock seats w/ aftermarket springs, but if it's been proven to work and the manufacturer says it's OK then it's a step saved.

crainholio

iTrader: (2)

As far as reusing seals after they've been installed and removed, just go ahead and dump a qt or so of oil into your throttle body. Same outcome.

yak

iTrader: (15)

ok, well i never touched the seals. I called patriot yesterday and the guy on the line saidf that as long as the inner spring cleared the lip on the seat that it was ok to use them.

PREDATOR-Z

That is the equivalent of trying to do 1/4 (404 meters) and stopping at 399.
Get seals and change them.
and if you want sound advice, get yourself a set of 850-16 Comp Cam lifters and replace those too.
Then you can say I did a complete H/C swap and it rocks.