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Old 08-29-2005, 02:06 AM
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hey im new to the boards....im shoppin around for a ls1 soon...my dad has a 2000 WS6 which i love ...my friends wants to race my dads WS6 ...he just bought a 99 cobra..my question is how fast are these cobras he says it has 320hp which in right near the WS6....both vehicles are stock....both manual....should i be able to beat him??
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yea thats wat i was expecting...anyone know wat these years of cobras run in the 1/4 mile?
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Originally Posted by chris_1985
yea thats wat i was expecting...anyone know wat these years of cobras run in the 1/4 mile?
If driven right they can run mid 13s some as low as 13.3, Ive never really seen any better then 13.3 stock. They will trap lower then the LS1. I think the LS1 has a small advantage tho. 99/01 Cobras are not geared so great, they are not in there powerband till higher in the RPMs thats why ya see alot of high 13s and some 14 seconds ones. With just a 4.10 or 4.30 the Cobras are strongly hit there powerband quick and can pull 13.0s or better.
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if u can drive and don't mess up u'll definitely win, just remember where he's at when u put it into 3rd gear
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
If driven right they can run mid 13s some as low as 13.3, Ive never really seen any better then 13.3 stock. They will trap lower then the LS1. I think the LS1 has a small advantage tho. 99/01 Cobras are not geared so great, they are not in there powerband till higher in the RPMs thats why ya see alot of high 13s and some 14 seconds ones. With just a 4.10 or 4.30 the Cobras are strongly hit there powerband quick and can pull 13.0s or better.
same with the ls1, a 3.42 rear end would do a lot better with 4.10/4.30s too and both would do better if you had this and that....but i would expect the ws6 to walk the mustang if drivers are equal
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I raced one at the track just the other night, wasnt sure on the exact year but i knew it wasnt one of the S/C ones-i lined up with him and i ended up red lighting, i have never red lighted before so i guess it confused me an i just stopped-when the light went green he took off an i just sat there for a second, we'll he got about a car an half on me before i took off-i caught him quick an passed him like he was standing still, an this was in the 1/8, idk? maybe he missed a gear or something?
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No worries. Buddy of mine has a 01 Cobra, I have driven it myself and it wants NONE of an LS1 with equal drivers. A car in the right/wrong hands can be made to look fast/slow. End of story.
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01 Cobra. No worry. Mach 1, 03 & 04 Cobras worry.
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No contest. The LS1 will walk the 99 cobra if they both are stock. The 99 cobra makes 320 hp and dyno around 270-280rwhp. The LS1 is rated at 320 but dynos around 290-305 rwhp.

The LS1 makes too much power and the 99 can't keep up. However, if the 99 c0bra driver is good and the WS6 driver isn't, then the cobra can pull the win.
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1999 was the recall year for Cobra's, I raced an 01 with my wife in the car. He had ET Drags and at the time I had only a lid. The 01 took me out of the hole but when the car's rpm came up it was over. 13.4's to his 13.6, Cobra's need 4.10's or better.
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Oh yea by the way, that WS6 prolly has close to 320 at the wheels...much more than the Cobra.
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i was expecting ppl to tell me to be careful racing the cobra but by the sounds of it there not as quick as an LS1..i thought those cobras were faster havin 320 hp and weighin 400 lbs less then a trans am if im not mistakin...we are gonna race tomorrow...so i guess i will find out for myself
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400 lbs less? My buddies 00 GT weighs 50lbs more than my WS6, just weighed them on Sat. If you can drive then he can kiss his *** goodbye, let us know how it goes.
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
400 lbs less? My buddies 00 GT weighs 50lbs more than my WS6, just weighed them on Sat. If you can drive then he can kiss his *** goodbye, let us know how it goes.
Wow how much does your car weigh?
I weighed my GT on 2 certified scales and it was 3320 on both give or take a little.

The Cobra is about 3500#.

98SuperSport: The 4v is not a torq monster by any means. I see what your saying about the LS1 benifiting from a gear but that year and earlier Cobras rev high and don't have much lowend power to begin with. They Benefit a gear way more then an LS1. LS1s aready have a strong powerband the cobra need to be put in it.
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sorry guys didnt know how much they weighed my buddy told me it weighed 400 less then a TA....obviously he doesnt know wat hes talking about...ill have to set him straight...well we are gonna race tonight so ill post the outcome later..
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Originally Posted by chris_1985
sorry guys didnt know how much they weighed my buddy told me it weighed 400 less then a TA....obviously he doesnt know wat hes talking about...ill have to set him straight...well we are gonna race tonight so ill post the outcome later..
Good luck man, I think you'll pull it off.
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Also the Cobra's weigh more than the GT because of their IRS
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
Wow how much does your car weigh?
I weighed my GT on 2 certified scales and it was 3320 on both give or take a little.

The Cobra is about 3500#.
My car weighs 3430 without me. 3540 raceweight. I have the "lightweight driver mod"

My buds GT weighed 3480 with him out of it. 3720 raceweight, he weighs 240.

So a 50 lb difference. He does have a sub box with two 10's or 12's and a amp in the back. Then I have a 10" sub in the back as well. But by all means this guys TA doesn't weigh 400lbs more.
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The 99 Cobra is not very fast this is one of the years they made the cobra with out a supercharger. My friend has one with a lot of money in his, with a vortec supercharger on it, and it still only runs mid 12. So i think you should be able to take him.



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