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Old 09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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I own a 01 TA convert. It has 21,000 miles on it and just seems to be a dog rolling at 40mph. Pretty quick anywhere else. Is this common on these cars?

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cuz of the stock TC. get an aftermarket onee and your good.
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cuz of the stock TC. get an aftermarket onee and your good.
40mph is still a dead spot even with a stall, unless you get 4000rpm or bigger IMO. It still felt dead to me even with a 3500 stall.

The trans only downshifts back to 2nd gear at that speed. Just not much kick to 2nd @ 40mph....
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isnt the car sold now???...i test drove a ss a4 and a ws6 a4...they both seemed like dogs from a roll..but were a blast once you got them up in speed..guess i was used to the torque of the lt1..
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
isnt the car sold now???
Whos car?
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
40mph is still a dead spot even with a stall, unless you get 4000rpm or bigger IMO. It still felt dead to me even with a 3500 stall.

The trans only downshifts back to 2nd gear at that speed. Just not much kick to 2nd @ 40mph....
I guess your right. Mine will lite em up!!!
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
isnt the car sold now???...i test drove a ss a4 and a ws6 a4...they both seemed like dogs from a roll..but were a blast once you got them up in speed..guess i was used to the torque of the lt1..
I've owned both an 00 A4 and my current car and I will say handsdown the M6 is more fun to drive in respect that the throttle response is there when with the stab of the gas. Add some mods, that doggie-ness will be gone.
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even with my mods my a4 isnt a monster from a roll at certain speeds.LTs did help considerably though but a4s strong point is from a stop.
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This is the exact reason when someone wants to race me from a roll I request a 30mph roll.. if you get up to 40 she wont go down to first and as mentioned above it really wont do anything but if you get down too low, like 10 mph its not all that great either.. so in an A4 I either go from a dig, or from 30.. both places she is a beast, that is with 2:73 gears though, I cant testify for other gears as I am sure they will react differently with a set of 3:42's or 3:73's.. Oh, and another SWEET spot is at about 75ish.. nail it and you seeing 100mph in no time at all...
Edit:.. just wanted to add this.. The A4 isnt all that bad, most of my buddies with 6 speeds cant race me from a dig, I beat them everytime, from a roll is another story.. my 2:73's make it so I can just squat and go while they are feathering the clutch and gas to get theirs going..
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I was looking at the wrong sig thatsaid your car was sold..nstead of his...i was confused
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My nos cured my dead stops. buwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaah
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Originally Posted by 1BAD98TA
This is the exact reason when someone wants to race me from a roll I request a 30mph roll.. if you get up to 40 she wont go down to first and as mentioned above it really wont do anything but if you get down too low, like 10 mph its not all that great either.. so in an A4 I either go from a dig, or from 30.. both places she is a beast, that is with 2:73 gears though, I cant testify for other gears as I am sure they will react differently with a set of 3:42's or 3:73's.. Oh, and another SWEET spot is at about 75ish.. nail it and you seeing 100mph in no time at all...
Edit:.. just wanted to add this.. The A4 isnt all that bad, most of my buddies with 6 speeds cant race me from a dig, I beat them everytime, from a roll is another story.. my 2:73's make it so I can just squat and go while they are feathering the clutch and gas to get theirs going..
With 2.73s, your trans should be downshifting to 1st at up to 35-37mph. My '98 has 2.73s and it does that. My '00 had 3.23s, and those cars won't go back to first over 29-30mph. Though, all of that can be changed with tuning of course.
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Originally Posted by headncam01
I own a 01 TA convert. It has 21,000 miles on it and just seems to be a dog rolling at 40mph. Pretty quick anywhere else. Is this common on these cars? TIA John
Are you talking about going WOT or applying moderate throttle while cruising? Cuz if you're giving it moderate throttle and the TC is staying locked-up, it's going to BOG big time, especially with 2.73's.
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According to what i figured, its safe to downshift to 1st 41> and to 2nd 75> so i re-did my tranny tables and 40 is where i go from a roll now, perfect spot, only problem now is it goes sideways cuz of crappy tires
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with my 3.73 gears my 3400 stall acts like a 4k i get a pretty good kickdown at 40 now
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i think every gm vehicle is like this....my 2001 regal was like this....also my dads 2500 6.0 pickup with 4.10s wont even kick down at 40.....what i learned is if u sort of pump the gas slightly once u can get these trannies to kick down and hold around 1500 rpms in third for a short time when u see it hold at those rpm's then stomp on it and it should at least bark the tires even if you're stock at 40mph.....if u let it get into 4th gear then stomp it then these things are pooches.
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The part throttle shift tables as-delivered are a large
part of the problem. You can make the car a lot more
pedal-responsive if you tune these right. However at
40MPH you're just about ready for the 1-2 upshift and
back to the bottom again. This is where a converter
can help you, some (by keeping you out of the basement
by "shift extension" softening and torque multiplication
when you are slipping it).

You can bark the tires by a 2-1 downshift at 40MPH, but
if you're going to upshift again at 42 then it's probably
just a waste of rubber with minimal performance gain.

A properly tailored part-throttle profile gives you a car
that is not "all or nothing" (downshift only at WOT etc.)
but is predictable, controllable and responsive with the
ability to be wherever in the powerband you like, by
gas pedal.

The converter complements, but does not replace this
aspect.
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
The part throttle shift tables as-delivered are a large
part of the problem. You can make the car a lot more
pedal-responsive if you tune these right. However at
40MPH you're just about ready for the 1-2 upshift and
back to the bottom again. This is where a converter
can help you, some (by keeping you out of the basement
by "shift extension" softening and torque multiplication
when you are slipping it).

You can bark the tires by a 2-1 downshift at 40MPH, but
if you're going to upshift again at 42 then it's probably
just a waste of rubber with minimal performance gain.

A properly tailored part-throttle profile gives you a car
that is not "all or nothing" (downshift only at WOT etc.)
but is predictable, controllable and responsive with the
ability to be wherever in the powerband you like, by
gas pedal.

The converter complements, but does not replace this
aspect.
So what speed do you suggest to program the 2-1 shift?
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A pretty good set of tables in Excel form are hosted at:

http://home.cfl.rr.com/jimmyblue/PCM_Trans_20041024.xls

Bear in mind the rear gears and converter stall/STR are
going to change where you want yours.
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remember too that you are in a convertable....that means your pasking another 200 plus pounds then the t-top/hard top cars



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