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Old 09-13-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default How much compression is to much 4 pump gas

Title pretty much covers what I want to know

How much compression can I run with 91 octaine and how much with 93 octaine.

DO not include fuel additives

im looking for what you have above 11:01 how the car runs, any pinging, carbon?


and what heads you have ?
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I wouldn't run more than 11:1 with 91 and 11.5:1 with 93 octane.
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do you have heads?
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I'll be running 11.5 on 93 in good ol' Florida heat. I will be running a colder plug, running a better quench, and will have the fans on to keep cooant temps under control. I feel pretty comfortable at this compression, but I don't know how much more can go till you run into issues.

BTW.....forged pistons and TEA LS6 heads.
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Originally Posted by Phil'sC5vette
Title pretty much covers what I want to know

How much compression can I run with 91 octaine and how much with 93 octaine.

DO not include fuel additives

im looking for what you have above 11:01 how the car runs, any pinging, carbon?


and what heads you have ?
It depend on the cam you run. The larger the cam, the more mixture you will bleed off at low rpm, the more compression you can run.

I'm running a 224/.560/112 XE with custom ported LS1 heads, milled .015 (64.2cc) for a 10.61:1cr.

I ran this combo for the last 2 summers without a single "ping". I think I could have gone with 11:1 but didn't want to take the chance with the crappy 91 octane we have here in Canada.
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It depends on variables such as how much timing your are running.
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Title pretty much covers what I want to know

How much compression can I run with 91 octaine and how much with 93 octaine.

DO not include fuel additives

im looking for what you have above 11:01 how the car runs, any pinging, carbon?


and what heads you have ?
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As stated earlier, cam and timing and octane determine what you can run. You need to be concerned with dynamic compression (DCR), and keep that around 8.5:1. I'm sure you could run 12.1:1 or 12.5:1 on 91 octane with a huge cam. It would be such a joy to daily drive, though, that'd you be better off looking at 11.5-11.8:1 as the maximum CR and running a mid 230s duration cam to bring the DCR down to something manageable.
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I'm running 11.5c on 93 octane no pinging issues Good tune will help
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I run mainly 91 octane around town with 11.5:1 c/r at high altitude and with 27 degrees max advance. (I run 120 octane C25 in my 622 with 16:1 c/r and 29.5 degrees advance. trivia)
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i have 11:1 comp and have no problems running anything from 89 to 91 octane.. dunno how much timing i have
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This it the type of information Im looking for. Thanks guys

as for me, I have a TR224 .563 on a LSA 114.

I dont have my AFR on they, but they are at 60-61CC with a MLS gm Gasket
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phil, i'm running vette in sig in florida heat on pump 93, no problems 11.33:1 scr
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Originally Posted by smask04C5
phil, i'm running vette in sig in florida heat on pump 93, no problems 11.33:1 scr
I think you have a hair more compression than Ill have .

im glad to hear you have no issues
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12.5:1 here on Sunoco 94 with 28* timing.
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That's alot 12.5:01
I cant get 94 octaine

plus I need numbers on a 346 motor
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stock shortblock, MTI C2 cam, Patriot 6 liters with 59cc chambers and cometic gaskets. Rough calc for compression ratio is about 11.2 or so. I can run 91 -93 octane on 27 degrees advance timing with no detectable knock or pinging in 100+ degree weather.
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As Jake mentioned - you dynamic comression is of greater concern to your motor.
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i run 11.2:1 on 93oct 30deg timing motor 24deg on nos.
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I think the worst Ill have is 11.2:1

best Ill be at 10.9:1

10.9:1 is more where I wanted to be, but it looks like im at 11.2:1
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Hi Folks
I am running 93 with a CR of 11:2-1 - you can look below to see what I have. The car runs well, no KR.
Bill



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