Fueling & Injection - Installing Racetronix Kit




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4thGenTA
09-18-2005, 12:59 AM
I was just wondering how long and hard it is to install the racetronix kit. I dont have a lift so i will b e using jacks and stands. I heard that you have to drop the whole rear is this true. I have a 2000 TA. Its the only car i have to drive so anything i do to it has to be done rather quickly. Also wondering if you can have too big of injectors, cause i was thinking of upgrading my injectors and pump at the same time to have done for future power gains but i dont want to be wasting fuel.

Thanks Dan


JRick212
09-18-2005, 01:15 AM
i took the panhard bar off and the shocks so that i could lower the rear enough. Just make sure you don't lower it too much and damage your rubber brake lines and wires going to the rear. From there remove the heat shields and the exhaust. I didn't even remove the exaust entirely. I seperated it where my y-pipe met the I-pipe and just let it rest on the ground. You have to unbolt the filler neck from the body and disconnect the lines and electrical connections before you can remove the tank

I am a mechanic and somewhat familar with GM's so with air tools it took me about 3-4 hours and that was at a somewhat lethargic pace

JRick212
09-18-2005, 01:19 AM
also from the mods in your sig you don't need injectors at this time so I wouldn't bother and save yourself some money


SiL3NtXWS6
09-18-2005, 10:41 AM
If you get bigger injectors, you will need to get it tuned (if you didn't know).

cyphur
09-18-2005, 02:16 PM
just replace the pump, leave the injectors alone for now.

Ed Blown Vert
10-04-2005, 06:05 PM
Took me a few hours to install. Removed the exhaust, move the panhard out of the way and let the axle hang.

But it helped alot on fuel pressure. Before my FP would drop from 58 to 40.

Even with a more HP now. My pressure doesn't drop below 50. I may just add a MSD BAP for peace of mind.

oange ss
10-04-2005, 06:43 PM
you dont have to drop the rear if you jack the car up by the subframe and let the rear hang and remove exhaust,panhard bar, upper panhard bar etc.......

Ed Blown Vert
10-04-2005, 06:44 PM
I meant hang not drop. :)

Ferocity02
10-05-2005, 11:16 PM
Trap Door? :D

mrbobo
10-06-2005, 12:58 AM
you dont have to drop the rear if you jack the car up by the subframe and let the rear hang and remove exhaust,panhard bar, upper panhard bar etc.......

same here. exhaust,heat sheilds,panhard bar, rear tires. You need a long socket exstension to get to the gas tank retaining strap bolts. With no :jest: around, is about a 3-4 hour job. Isn't a hard install, the Racetronix instructions are very good. Getting the tank out is the most work.

99blancoSS
10-06-2005, 02:45 PM
Didnt need to move the axle at all on my install. The filler neck was two peices. panhard bars, moved the shields and the exaust and it came right out. It will be a bit of a PIA on jackstand in your driveway. I paid someone with a lift, wich also came in handy as the weatherpak connector on the PNP hardness was incorrect and had to be changed. Racetonix isnt doing a thing about it either. Cost me for a new connector and labor at $85 /hr. I'm not happy about it. I paid extra for the PNP hardness and it wasnt pnp at all. If I was in my driveway I would have been screwed royally. They still havent done anything about it and probably wont. The kit was ok for having a wrong connector but there is not accountablity from them so far and most likely wont be at all. They have my money. Thats all they care about. They are aware of my situaiton and have done nothing about it so far. Vive le Canada!

Racetronix
10-07-2005, 03:31 AM
Didnt need to move the axle at all on my install. The filler neck was two peices. panhard bars, moved the shields and the exaust and it came right out. It will be a bit of a PIA on jackstand in your driveway. I paid someone with a lift, wich also came in handy as the weatherpak connector on the PNP hardness was incorrect and had to be changed. Racetonix isnt doing a thing about it either. Cost me for a new connector and labor at $85 /hr. I'm not happy about it. I paid extra for the PNP hardness and it wasnt pnp at all. If I was in my driveway I would have been screwed royally. They still havent done anything about it and probably wont. The kit was ok for having a wrong connector but there is not accountablity from them so far and most likely wont be at all. They have my money. Thats all they care about. They are aware of my situaiton and have done nothing about it so far. Vive le Canada!

No, you failed to realize that the harness plugs into the top of the sending unit unlike the F98 system where it plugs in behind the rear seat! There was nothing wrong with your F99 harness. :bang:

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 10:19 AM
No, you failed to realize that the harness plugs into the top of the sending unit unlike the F98 system where it plugs in behind the rear seat! There was nothing wrong with your F99 harness. :bang: No YOUR absolutely wrong here. The PNP plug you show onm your website for the 99 is not the same plug that came with the cable. It was a wrong plug from Racetronix. The mechanic that did the wiring is an electrical engineer as well as a GM certified mechanic, and one of the more trusted mechanic in the pacnw. Your part was wrong and it cost me extra to correct it. You wont take responsibilty for it plain and simple. I expect you'll keep denying it. I havent met a company from Canada yet that had any integrity or cared about customer service or satisfaction. The friggin pnp plug was incorrect. Nothing on my car had been altered to make it that way the weatherpak plug was wrong. Completely wrong. Go ahead and deny it agian, thats all your good for from what I've seen.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 10:50 AM
All I know is the pic on their web site is for a 98. I plugged my harness to the top of the tank, not the firewall.

No YOUR absolutely wrong here. The PNP plug you show onm your website for the 99 is not the same plug that came with the cable. It was a wrong plug from Racetronix. The mechanic that did the wiring is an electrical engineer as well as a GM certified mechanic, and one of the more trusted mechanic in the pacnw. Your part was wrong and it cost me extra to correct it. You wont take responsibilty for it plain and simple. I expect you'll keep denying it. I havent met a company from Canada yet that had any integrity or cared about customer service or satisfaction. The friggin pnp plug was incorrect. Nothing on my car had been altered to make it that way the weatherpak plug was wrong. Completely wrong. Go ahead and deny it agian, thats all your good for from what I've seen.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 10:57 AM
All I know is the pic on their web site is for a 98. I plugged my harness to the top of the tank, not the firewall. The picture they show of the 99 on the website, when the mech looked after finding it was the wrong plug, is actualy the correct plug for my car. It was like a 6 port plug. I recieve a twin plug. It was the wrong plug . It should have just connected the way it was supposed to on the backwall of the body above the axle where the old harness plugs into. The fargon installation was done right the plug was wrong!!

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 11:12 AM
The 98 harness plus into the firewall. 99+ plugs into the top of the tank.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 11:28 AM
The 98 harness plus into the firewall. 99+ plugs into the top of the tank. Top of the tank but there is also a connection on the body behind the tank above the axle. This is where the plug was incorrect. Honestly its an easy install, there was no reason for any trouble, other than a wrong plug!

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 11:31 AM
There is no connection with the harness on the firewall on a 99+ f-bodies.

I only plugged mine into the top of the tank.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 11:35 AM
There is no connection with the harness on the firewall on a 99+ f-bodies.

I only plugged mine into the top of the tank.
Its not on the firewall for the last time. The mechanic who did the installtion is not an idiot. He is one of the better GM mech's in the buisness, plus he is an electrical engineer. You think he got it wrong?!? cant read directions? hahahaha the plug was wrong!!

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 11:43 AM
Then why do you keep saying you tried to plug in into the firewall? Nothing plugs in there!

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:12 PM
Then why do you keep saying you tried to plug in into the firewall? Nothing plugs in there!
I never said firewall only you.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:14 PM
The picture they show of the 99 on the website, when the mech looked after finding it was the wrong plug, is actualy the correct plug for my car. It was like a 6 port plug. I recieve a twin plug. It was the wrong plug . It should have just connected the way it was supposed to on the backwall of the body above the axle where the old harness plugs into. The fargon installation was done right the plug was wrong!!

Here is one time you mentioned the backwall.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:15 PM
Top of the tank but there is also a connection on the body behind the tank above the axle. This is where the plug was incorrect. Honestly its an easy install, there was no reason for any trouble, other than a wrong plug!

And another time you mentioned it.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:17 PM
And another time you mentioned it. This is not the firewall. This is the back of the car. It was the only place the thing plugs into. It wasnt rocket science just a wrong plug.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:22 PM
Here is one time you mentioned the backwall. Backwall is not FIREWALL!! Ed your either yanking my chian or just dont see what I'm saying here, either way the plug was wrong and racetonix isnt doing anything except to deny. Piss poor business if you ask me.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Where did you try to plug the harness into?

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
Backwall is not FIREWALL!! Ed your either yanking my chian or just dont see what I'm saying here, either way the plug was wrong and racetonix isnt doing anything except to deny. Piss poor business if you ask me.

Either way, nothing goes there. Only on top of the tank.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
Where did you try to plug the harness into?
There is only one plug with the harness and it only goes in one spot. It was the wrong plug. I'm done, if you cant understand argue with yourself some more.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:28 PM
There is only one plug with the harness and it only goes in one spot. It was the wrong plug. I'm done, if you cant understand argue with yourself some more.

I think the problem is YOU don't understand. The harness only plugs into the plugs on the top of the tank. No where else.

It doesn't plug into the back wall. What part don't you understand?

I just installed mine so I know how it goes.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:36 PM
I think the problem is YOU don't understand. The harness only plugs into the plugs on the top of the tank. No where else.

It doesn't plug into the back wall. What part don't you understand?

I just installed mine so I know how it goes. Do you have a plastic tank? Its a different kit. The plug was wrong. The plug was meant to go somewhere and where it was meant to go it didnt fit because it was wrong. I cant make it anymore clearer than that. The 99 pnp harness for the plastic tank was a new product when I bought it as well, maybe it was packaged wrong at the factory?!? There are two different kits for a plastic tank and the metal tank. No one will say that though. I'll wait for your answer Ed .. metal or plastic? 99's had both in them

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 12:46 PM
Do you have a plastic tank? Its a different kit. The plug was wrong. The plug was meant to go somewhere and where it was meant to go it didnt fit because it was wrong. I cant make it anymore clearer than that. The 99 pnp harness for the plastic tank was a new product when I bought it as well, maybe it was packaged wrong at the factory?!? There are two different kits for a plastic tank and the metal tank. No one will say that though. I'll wait for your answer Ed .. metal or plastic? 99's had both in them


I have a plastic tank just like you. I even have a 99.

I still don't understand where you tried to plug it in. You never exactly say where. On the back wall or top of the tank?? I am assuming you tried to plug it into the back wall.

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 12:49 PM
did your cable come with a weatherpak plug on it? Where the weatherpak plugs into is what I'm talking about. There's only one. The cable was meant to work and run in one direction, it wasnt the mechanic not knowing what he was doing it was a wrong plug on the end of the cable. How can I make it any more clearer? The thing plugs together, it's PNP if the plug ends match. The pictures on the website and the instructions were all the same except the plug on the end of the cable was incorrect. Yours obviously wasnt.

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 01:00 PM
This is how my harness looks.

http://www.racetronix.com/product/RX-F99-FPKG-2/RX-F99-FPWHG-2.jpg

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 01:33 PM
This is how my harness looks.

http://www.racetronix.com/product/RX-F99-FPKG-2/RX-F99-FPWHG-2.jpg Thats not what mine looked like. The end with the factory plugs into here stuff was different. Thats what I'm saying it was wrong. Ed you get the picture now?

Ed Blown Vert
10-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Thats not what mine looked like. The end with the factory plugs into here stuff was different. Thats what I'm saying it was wrong. Ed you get the picture now?

Now it makes more sense. If you never referred to the back wall it would have made more sense sooner. I thought you were trying to plug it in there.

Is it possible they sent you the 98 version?

99blancoSS
10-07-2005, 02:13 PM
Now it makes more sense. If you never referred to the back wall it would have made more sense sooner. I thought you were trying to plug it in there.

Is it possible they sent you the 98 version?
According to them no. They never make a mistake but yet here we are.

MasterMind
10-08-2005, 02:05 PM
Mine plugged in just fine, ran the wires to the alternator, great setup.

code4
10-08-2005, 03:53 PM
Mine plugged in just fine, ran the wires to the alternator, great setup.

Mine too, easy install/works great.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/code4/000_1277.jpg

Redneck Z
10-08-2005, 04:07 PM
Well....My harness at the top of the pump had the wiring backwards, so racetronix is human and do makes mistakes. So far they seem to be batting about 70%. Then again, the majority of people only post when something is wrong.