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Old 10-06-2005, 07:04 PM
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i was wondering would it be ok for run a 100 shot without changing timing or messing with the a/f or changing fuel pumps....
Old 10-06-2005, 07:44 PM
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is it a wet or a dry shot ... i am running a 150 wet shot on stock timing and stock fuel pump.
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its a wet kit so your running 150 shot with stock timing wow do u have a programmer too
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What is all done to the car? If you didn't add any timing with a tune then you will be fine not pulling any. As long as you just have bolt ons (no cam or heads) you'll be okay with the factory fuel system too.

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i was wondering would it be ok for run a 100 shot without changing timing or messing with the a/f or changing fuel pumps....
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IF you are stock: You don't have to pull any timing BUT It's not a bad idea, generally 1.5-3 per 50HP helps keep you safe
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yea i have all bolt ons and free mods so ill be coo with 100 or 150
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yeah i have the hypertech but i only use it 4 my gears ... nothing else
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ok thanks alot everybody for the advice
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I'm at 28 degrees maximum timing at WOT on a 100 shot. Think I'm ok?
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What grade fuel are you running (94?)? It wouldn't hurt to pull a few degrees.

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I'm at 28 degrees maximum timing at WOT on a 100 shot. Think I'm ok?
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The best way to find out if to much timing is to log for Knock Retard. Even better is to set timing on a Dyno for max power. Max timing does not allways equal max power. But just randomly pulling timing to be on safe side, I can't say don't do it, but...
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I ran 100 dry shot with stock timing for 3 years no problem's. I pulled A couple of degree's before I converted to wet, Car was faster retarded! Had no KR before I retarded. NO2 loves retard!
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my question is when changing timing to around 26 to 28 does that hurt the response of the 100 shot ?? i think i had mine to low i put it at 25 at wot before the spray . im gonna try to redo all my settings this weekend with the predator what should be an timing number i should be gunning for for a bolton car with stock cam and heads ??
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Originally Posted by Matt@HSW
What grade fuel are you running (94?)? It wouldn't hurt to pull a few degrees.

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Sunoco Ultra 94 with usually 3 or 4 gallons of Cam2 100 mixed in.
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i have a 402 iron block motor w/ a 224/220 116lsa cam, stage3 heads, and 30lb injectors............. i'm going to spray a 125 dry shot w/ 5 gallons of 110 in the tank. think i'll be okay?
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When my car was tuned it made the best power at 25 degrees on the motor (went up to 30-32, didn't get any KR but lost power), so would I be safe spraying a 100 wet shot without touching the timing?
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On a stockish car, upto about a 150 shot no timing pull is normally needed. I would still log and check for KR. Now having installed a cam, all bets are off, and I would suggest contacting cam manufacture' for their rec, or a good tuner. Myself, I am running 22* and it hasn't hurt my n/a times a bit, and good for a bigger hit. At this point as I go bigger I will keep an eye on KR for indication that more timing needs to be pulled. Working my way up to the full 200+rwhp.
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I'm hitting every timing thread tonight...so what happens when you go on up in your shot to 200-300..on the Dyno check KR logs, AF and keep timing up a degree to stay off the "ragged edge" ... this assumes that there is enough fuel to keep up with the added oxygen...
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You'll prolly be fine on a 100 shot with your fuel selection. But again it can't hurt to pull some. It sometimes boils down to personal choice and how safe you want to play it.

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Sunoco Ultra 94 with usually 3 or 4 gallons of Cam2 100 mixed in.
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Depends. How much are/did you advance your timing? Remember too that a dry shot pulls some timing. It looks like you have a somewhat mild set up, but I would double check the 30 lb injectors also.

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i have a 402 iron block motor w/ a 224/220 116lsa cam, stage3 heads, and 30lb injectors............. i'm going to spray a 125 dry shot w/ 5 gallons of 110 in the tank. think i'll be okay?

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