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Old 10-11-2005, 07:58 PM
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We've begun the Head/Cam swap on my SS. The heads that are going on are MTI Stage 2E, ported of course. The cam going in is a TR224 112 LSA. We started pulling stuff apart yesterday, and got to pull the cam tonight. We're taking our sweet *** time with it so we don't screw it up. We'll probably get the heads off tomorrow. Pics of the heads soon.
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Nice, Have fun with it! Its a great feeling when you finally fire it up!
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saweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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sorry to hijack but noticed you had a GTP. Nice dyno numbers. got a question. buddies got a 2000 GTP, he has cold air kit, 3.25 pulley, DHP computer, 3" downpipe, no cats, no resontor, no u bend, heat shield, descreened maf, stock mufflers w/ cutout, think it will dyno over 250 FWHP? he says no but im think it might. its a 4 door and before downpipe and PCM upgrade the car went 13.708 @ 103 with 100 octane.
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How are you keeping your lifters from falling into the bottom end/windage tray area? I didnt see any pen magnets or dowel rods. I just happened to notice that the cam was out and the heads were on. Just looking out for ya bro!
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the stock retainers are holding them and the heads wil be off tonight and/or the new cam will be in
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yea, it doesn't matter if your lifters fall. You'll rip the heads anyways....
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Originally Posted by 4u 2 nv
sorry to hijack but noticed you had a GTP. Nice dyno numbers. got a question. buddies got a 2000 GTP, he has cold air kit, 3.25 pulley, DHP computer, 3" downpipe, no cats, no resontor, no u bend, heat shield, descreened maf, stock mufflers w/ cutout, think it will dyno over 250 FWHP? he says no but im think it might. its a 4 door and before downpipe and PCM upgrade the car went 13.708 @ 103 with 100 octane.
That's a good run with his GTP. I haven't run mine yet, but I'd be happy with lower 14's.

I know a guy who had similar mods done to his GTP, he also has LT headers and a cat-back. He put down 242FWHP, and 296FWTQ. Might be close.
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How hard is the head swap if you are not a mechanic?
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Im a mech, its not bad so far
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Originally Posted by AdamSS
yea, it doesn't matter if your lifters fall. You'll rip the heads anyways....
When lifters fall, they fall through the trays into the oil pan. You can't just pick them up like you can when the heads are off. Kind of stupid to not take the heads off first IMO. Hope nothing falls.
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oil pan is already off
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Yeah, I agree with 777. The lifter retainers will hold the lifters but they can and have been know to, fall out. Nobody really knows how long they will hold the lifters either. A more proper procedure would be to remove heads, pushrods, and lifters (you have to replace pushrods anyway with a higher lift cam), before removing and swapping the camshaft.
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Originally Posted by 777
When lifters fall, they fall through the trays into the oil pan. You can't just pick them up like you can when the heads are off. Kind of stupid to not take the heads off first IMO. Hope nothing falls.


guess I better stop where I am then since Im too stupid to finish
We will see what has fallen down when I go back over there tonight to put the cam in....if I can figure out how it goes back in
Forgive me for not being the expert you obviously are
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Originally Posted by 777
When lifters fall, they fall through the trays into the oil pan...Kind of stupid to not take the heads off first IMO.
Originally Posted by 89ws6formula50
oil pan is already off
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Originally Posted by 89ws6formula50
guess I better stop where I am then since Im too stupid to finish
We will see what has fallen down when I go back over there tonight to put the cam in....if I can figure out how it goes back in
Forgive me for not being the expert you obviously are
I don't know what your problem is. I wasn't being sarcastic. I did not call you stupid. I didn't know you had the oil pan off. I was stating a simple fact that it is not that wise to risk lifters falling into the oil pan when you are doing a head/cam swap. I'm not saying that they WILL fall. It's that there is a possiblity and why run the risk when you are taking the heads off anyhow. Sorry I was trying to help. I thought that was the point of this board. I always find it facinating how people can twist words to make it sound completly different than what was originally intended.
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Originally Posted by 72sub

oil pan is not off due to lifters falling...its off for the front oil pump tube bolt, I said that just to NOTE that the pan was already off in case they fall.


Originally Posted by 777sub
Sorry I was trying to help. I thought that was the point of this board
me too
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Originally Posted by 89ws6formula50
guess I better stop where I am then since Im too stupid to finish
We will see what has fallen down when I go back over there tonight to put the cam in....if I can figure out how it goes back in
Forgive me for not being the expert you obviously are
1. Said it (the idea) was stupid, not you.
2. Said the lifters could fall, not will.
3. Never said you couldn't figure out how to put a cam back in.
4. Never said you weren't an expert.
5. Never said I was an expert.

So where did you get the above information from?
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Originally Posted by 777
1. Said it (the idea) was stupid, not you.
2. Said the lifters could fall, not will.
3. Never said you couldn't figure out how to put a cam back in.
4. Never said you weren't an expert.
5. Never said I was an expert.

So where did you get the above information from?
its all inferred(sp?)

perception..........it just sounded liek you were trying to raz me for not taking the freaking heads off first.......my apologies, Im a hothead, ask the guy that owns the car.....



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