HellRaiser
10-12-2005, 06:21 PM
I just don't get this style of race if you can call it that. I mean how can someone sit there and watch it like hey this kicks ass. They have pro race's for this stuff and all. What do you guys think of it? :confused:
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catfSSh
10-12-2005, 06:32 PM
i dont like it. in my opinion its a side show to a real race. i dont see how you can compete and how theres anyway of gauging who wins because so far ive only seen the drifting being determined by a judge. also it doesnt seem to matter what car you have or what power because people in the 80s style camrys can keepup with a turbo 240.
1320Kid
10-12-2005, 06:37 PM
I was able to experience the D1 America vs. Japan Drift Contest at the 04 JGTC Event at Cali Speedway. There is a damn art to it. It takes alot of talent and a hell of alot of work to do this sport. They judge by going into pairs. The lead car manuevers around the track and the following car has to try to pass it engaged in a drift or match the lead cars performance perfectly. Its also very entertaining watching cars doing 100+ and pitching it sideways at the right time with the perfect time of calibration. Before I saw it live I thought it was a waste of time and tires like yourself, but after I understood I think its freakin awesome.
99FormulaM6
10-12-2005, 06:42 PM
it does take skill, or luck, im not sure. but i know i cant do it. ive always wanted to just slam the brakes and yank the wheel on a 5-6 lane highway and drift like crazy though, that would be fucking awesome!
JD1969
10-12-2005, 07:19 PM
IMO drifting has more in common with figure skating than it does real racing. Think about, both do require some talent but niether is based on a TIME, instead they are subjectivly judged on style and other factors.
HellRaiser
10-12-2005, 07:52 PM
it does take skill, or luck, im not sure. but i know i cant do it. ive always wanted to just slam the brakes and yank the wheel on a 5-6 lane highway and drift like crazy though, that would be fucking awesome!
me to! But make a sport out of it? I can not see me wanting to go to a event just for that. Maybe if I was somewhere and it was going on I would check it out but thats about it. I guess different strokes for different fokes.
I just can't believe that this is growing in the US.
me to! But make a sport out of it? I can not see me wanting to go to a event just for that. Maybe if I was somewhere and it was going on I would check it out but thats about it. I guess different strokes for different fokes.
I just can't believe that this is growing in the US.
2K2WS6TA
10-12-2005, 08:53 PM
It's IMO an interesting aside to a regular race, it takes skill, no doubt, to drift a car round a corner @100mph and not smack a wall, but a competitive sport, I'm not buying that line
john_matrix
10-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Yeah I think it is kind of gay, but I'm sure looks cool in real life.
Some people feel the same about drag racing.
Point is, every motorsport takes tons of skill, just not everyone's cup of tea.
My .02
Some people feel the same about drag racing.
Point is, every motorsport takes tons of skill, just not everyone's cup of tea.
My .02
HellRaiser
10-13-2005, 04:57 AM
How long is it going to take for one off these guys to lose control and wipe out the crowed? From the video I see it looks like your pretty close to the action. Maybe it just looks like that on tv.
LS1TechRulez
10-13-2005, 06:02 AM
Its NOT a race! Repeat: Its NOT a race!!
The great part about drifting is it doesnt matter how powerfull or fast the car is. As long as it is RWD and a stick you can drift it. Drifting takes a crazy amount of skill and anyone who can make a car dance like that gets respect from me. Dont even trip about trying to catogorize drifting. It doesnt matter if you call it a sport or race. Just know that where ever drifting takes place it becomes an event and draws tons of spectators.
The great part about drifting is it doesnt matter how powerfull or fast the car is. As long as it is RWD and a stick you can drift it. Drifting takes a crazy amount of skill and anyone who can make a car dance like that gets respect from me. Dont even trip about trying to catogorize drifting. It doesnt matter if you call it a sport or race. Just know that where ever drifting takes place it becomes an event and draws tons of spectators.
technical
10-13-2005, 12:36 PM
Drifting is a customer complaint usually caused by worn tires or bad alignment. Not a spectator event.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:41 PM
because people in the 80s style camrys can keepup with a turbo 240.
80's style camry's huh? thats funny, since those are FWD i dont see how they could be drifting, please post some video's and links so i can see what your talking about.
80's style camry's huh? thats funny, since those are FWD i dont see how they could be drifting, please post some video's and links so i can see what your talking about.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:42 PM
Drifting is a customer complaint usually caused by worn tires or bad alignment. Not a spectator event.
really? is it nationally televised and has factory backed teams like www.formulad.com too?!?
really? is it nationally televised and has factory backed teams like www.formulad.com too?!?
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:43 PM
IMO drifting has more in common with figure skating than it does real racing. Think about, both do require some talent but niether is based on a TIME, instead they are subjectivly judged on style and other factors.
drifting isnt racing retard, nobody in drifting said it was, get a clue.
drifting isnt racing retard, nobody in drifting said it was, get a clue.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:45 PM
I was able to experience the D1 America vs. Japan Drift Contest at the 04 JGTC Event at Cali Speedway. There is a damn art to it. It takes alot of talent and a hell of alot of work to do this sport. They judge by going into pairs. The lead car manuevers around the track and the following car has to try to pass it engaged in a drift or match the lead cars performance perfectly. Its also very entertaining watching cars doing 100+ and pitching it sideways at the right time with the perfect time of calibration. Before I saw it live I thought it was a waste of time and tires like yourself, but after I understood I think its freakin awesome.
THANK YOU!!!!!
once you see it it is really cool. but having some misconception and hatred for it as a ricer fad really causes you to miss out on it's coolness and fun.
go to
www.gtodrift.com , thats the guy who won the american championship this year
www.toxicdrift.com , factory backed viper who won last year, 2nd in points this year
www.bubbadrift.com , me, finished 8th in points this year, and i think i definately prove this is NOT a ricer sport
THANK YOU!!!!!
once you see it it is really cool. but having some misconception and hatred for it as a ricer fad really causes you to miss out on it's coolness and fun.
go to
www.gtodrift.com , thats the guy who won the american championship this year
www.toxicdrift.com , factory backed viper who won last year, 2nd in points this year
www.bubbadrift.com , me, finished 8th in points this year, and i think i definately prove this is NOT a ricer sport
98SuperSport
10-13-2005, 12:46 PM
it would be fun to do, and a lot of the cars in the professional competitions are actually making good power. dont try it in an f-body though, the solid rear end is not gonna like drifting
technical
10-13-2005, 12:46 PM
really? is it nationally televised and has factory backed teams like www.formulad.com too?!?
Drifting fan?
I don't care for it, but drifting was a complaint before it was a sport. :nod:
Drifting fan?
I don't care for it, but drifting was a complaint before it was a sport. :nod:
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:47 PM
How long is it going to take for one off these guys to lose control and wipe out the crowed? From the video I see it looks like your pretty close to the action. Maybe it just looks like that on tv.
wipe out the crowd? about as likely as any street car winning a battle with a concrete wall......
take this an example, the wall always wins
:bang:
wipe out the crowd? about as likely as any street car winning a battle with a concrete wall......
take this an example, the wall always wins
:bang:
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:48 PM
Drifting fan?
I don't care for it, but drifting was a complaint before it was a sport. :nod:
actually i compete, and share a sponsor with this site, its a blast and a half, i just dont understand all the people and their misconceptions they post, not even willing to give it a chance. its an incredible amount of fun, and thats how it started out, why people cant see this i dont understand.
heres my site, www.bubbadrift.com , check it out, weve got some sweeeet videos.
I don't care for it, but drifting was a complaint before it was a sport. :nod:
actually i compete, and share a sponsor with this site, its a blast and a half, i just dont understand all the people and their misconceptions they post, not even willing to give it a chance. its an incredible amount of fun, and thats how it started out, why people cant see this i dont understand.
heres my site, www.bubbadrift.com , check it out, weve got some sweeeet videos.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:49 PM
Its NOT a race! Repeat: Its NOT a race!!
The great part about drifting is it doesnt matter how powerfull or fast the car is. As long as it is RWD and a stick you can drift it. Drifting takes a crazy amount of skill and anyone who can make a car dance like that gets respect from me. Dont even trip about trying to catogorize drifting. It doesnt matter if you call it a sport or race. Just know that where ever drifting takes place it becomes an event and draws tons of spectators.
thank you!!!!
but you dont neeeeeed a stickshift :P
The great part about drifting is it doesnt matter how powerfull or fast the car is. As long as it is RWD and a stick you can drift it. Drifting takes a crazy amount of skill and anyone who can make a car dance like that gets respect from me. Dont even trip about trying to catogorize drifting. It doesnt matter if you call it a sport or race. Just know that where ever drifting takes place it becomes an event and draws tons of spectators.
thank you!!!!
but you dont neeeeeed a stickshift :P
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 12:52 PM
me to! But make a sport out of it? I can not see me wanting to go to a event just for that.
do you watch road racing? drag racing? nascar?
Maybe if I was somewhere and it was going on I would check it out but thats about it. I guess different strokes for different fokes.
you shoudl do that, i guarantee it would change your opinion
I just can't believe that this is growing in the US.
cars driving around a track completely sideways ( 30* of angle is not incredibly impressive to us just to give you an idea depending on the track layout ) white smoking the tires the whole time INCHES apart from each other and you dont think it woudl go over well in america?!?!?
do you watch road racing? drag racing? nascar?
Maybe if I was somewhere and it was going on I would check it out but thats about it. I guess different strokes for different fokes.
you shoudl do that, i guarantee it would change your opinion
I just can't believe that this is growing in the US.
cars driving around a track completely sideways ( 30* of angle is not incredibly impressive to us just to give you an idea depending on the track layout ) white smoking the tires the whole time INCHES apart from each other and you dont think it woudl go over well in america?!?!?
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 01:07 PM
ok, now my post
a lot of people dont like it due to misconceptions they have, and there are a lot of them. drifting originated in japan by a bunch of circuit (read japans equivalent of transam back in the day, the roots of what is not JGTC) drivers got bored after a while, and started putting on their used race tires to finish them off. after a while someone was like "oh man i totally slid further than you did in turn 10" and other guy was like " so i connected turn 9 and 10" sure enough impromtu "drifting" competitions followed with a bunch of bored circuit drivers finishing off tires and having fun (sound familiar!?!) and drifting was created in the d1gp, which has absolutely exploded in japan, using RWD turbo cars tuned to normally 500+ rwhp, and many of the top drivers in JGTC comepte in D1 for fun.
now onto where america fits into this. about two years ago some guys decided to bring drifting to america, www.formulad.com was created and several people, and several companies (INCLUDING : General Motors, Daimler Chrysler as well as a slew of tire companies) helped get it rolling. after its first year and 4 major events it picked up a TV deal, this is UNHEARD OF for ANY form of sport to pick up a major national prime time tv deal in its SECOND YEAR. after having every event last year won by the viper except the last which was one by the GTO, this year the GTO, Viper, a factory backed mustang, a 600+whp twin turbo G35 coupe, and a japanese spec nissan silvia have won events, and the season is over with the GTO finishing 1st in the points, a viper 2nd and a mustang 3rd.
now drifting IS A JUDGED SPORT, how is it judged? 3 or more judges (normally with a lot of 1st hand expereince and seat time) will give away 16 spots ( im explaining pro level for simplicity) out of 6x ish cars that show up, based ont he drivers ability to navigate a marked course, with specific marked "clipping points" (basically an apex, however it is not the proper racing apex, and is positioned so a driver will have to plot out his line correctly to hit the said point) , the judges judge on the line the driver takes (normally as close to the outside wall on the beginning, and on the clipping points) , the speed he is able to carry thru the course, the angle in relation to trajectory of the vehicle (how sideways he is) and the overall excitement of the run. then the top 16 drivers are paired up to run tandem, what happens here is the cars drift in pairs, and the leader is suppost to set the bar as far as the follow car. runs are judged on the following cars ability to match or one up the leader, passing is NOT encouraged, but if the leader blows his line enough for a pass and you are able to pass while sustaining a good drift, you automatically win. both cars lead once and follow once, whoever does the best moves to the next round.
this sport has a lot more to offer some of you than your ignorant stereotypical honda civic sliding around a corner in a gravel parking lot will lead you to believe. give it a chance, i promise you will not be dissapointed. i tried to explain the main things i get asked, and tried to help blwo away all teh misunderstandings that people have. drifting is about fun, and normally hondas arent allowed to compete because they are front wheel drive. only right wheel drive cars can drift, and its truley sad to see a majority of the american cars that would be well suited for drifting (f bodies) being owned by peopel that are too stubborn and misinformed to take thier cars to a drift event and have a rediculously fun time sliding around a course completely sideways and smoking the tires at 50 mph.
a lot of people dont like it due to misconceptions they have, and there are a lot of them. drifting originated in japan by a bunch of circuit (read japans equivalent of transam back in the day, the roots of what is not JGTC) drivers got bored after a while, and started putting on their used race tires to finish them off. after a while someone was like "oh man i totally slid further than you did in turn 10" and other guy was like " so i connected turn 9 and 10" sure enough impromtu "drifting" competitions followed with a bunch of bored circuit drivers finishing off tires and having fun (sound familiar!?!) and drifting was created in the d1gp, which has absolutely exploded in japan, using RWD turbo cars tuned to normally 500+ rwhp, and many of the top drivers in JGTC comepte in D1 for fun.
now onto where america fits into this. about two years ago some guys decided to bring drifting to america, www.formulad.com was created and several people, and several companies (INCLUDING : General Motors, Daimler Chrysler as well as a slew of tire companies) helped get it rolling. after its first year and 4 major events it picked up a TV deal, this is UNHEARD OF for ANY form of sport to pick up a major national prime time tv deal in its SECOND YEAR. after having every event last year won by the viper except the last which was one by the GTO, this year the GTO, Viper, a factory backed mustang, a 600+whp twin turbo G35 coupe, and a japanese spec nissan silvia have won events, and the season is over with the GTO finishing 1st in the points, a viper 2nd and a mustang 3rd.
now drifting IS A JUDGED SPORT, how is it judged? 3 or more judges (normally with a lot of 1st hand expereince and seat time) will give away 16 spots ( im explaining pro level for simplicity) out of 6x ish cars that show up, based ont he drivers ability to navigate a marked course, with specific marked "clipping points" (basically an apex, however it is not the proper racing apex, and is positioned so a driver will have to plot out his line correctly to hit the said point) , the judges judge on the line the driver takes (normally as close to the outside wall on the beginning, and on the clipping points) , the speed he is able to carry thru the course, the angle in relation to trajectory of the vehicle (how sideways he is) and the overall excitement of the run. then the top 16 drivers are paired up to run tandem, what happens here is the cars drift in pairs, and the leader is suppost to set the bar as far as the follow car. runs are judged on the following cars ability to match or one up the leader, passing is NOT encouraged, but if the leader blows his line enough for a pass and you are able to pass while sustaining a good drift, you automatically win. both cars lead once and follow once, whoever does the best moves to the next round.
this sport has a lot more to offer some of you than your ignorant stereotypical honda civic sliding around a corner in a gravel parking lot will lead you to believe. give it a chance, i promise you will not be dissapointed. i tried to explain the main things i get asked, and tried to help blwo away all teh misunderstandings that people have. drifting is about fun, and normally hondas arent allowed to compete because they are front wheel drive. only right wheel drive cars can drift, and its truley sad to see a majority of the american cars that would be well suited for drifting (f bodies) being owned by peopel that are too stubborn and misinformed to take thier cars to a drift event and have a rediculously fun time sliding around a course completely sideways and smoking the tires at 50 mph.
Seancass
10-13-2005, 01:15 PM
i only watch it to see the american cars do it better and twice as fast because the vipers, mustangs, and goats have 3x's the horsepower of the other cars.
technical
10-13-2005, 01:38 PM
actually i compete, and share a sponsor with this site, its a blast and a half, i just dont understand all the people and their misconceptions they post, not even willing to give it a chance. its an incredible amount of fun, and thats how it started out, why people cant see this i dont understand.
heres my site, www.bubbadrift.com , check it out, weve got some sweeeet videos.
I didn't want to assume you were a drifter, but I figured you were since you took to the defense of the sport so readily. I'm not sure people have too many misconceptions of the sport, but I'm sure pre-conceptions are the cause for such posts that you mention. Since style is more important than timed results, racing fans have a hard time getting their heads around a car/style type of motorsport event where speed isn't the winning factor. I guess racing fans approve of drafting more than drifting.
heres my site, www.bubbadrift.com , check it out, weve got some sweeeet videos.
I didn't want to assume you were a drifter, but I figured you were since you took to the defense of the sport so readily. I'm not sure people have too many misconceptions of the sport, but I'm sure pre-conceptions are the cause for such posts that you mention. Since style is more important than timed results, racing fans have a hard time getting their heads around a car/style type of motorsport event where speed isn't the winning factor. I guess racing fans approve of drafting more than drifting.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 01:44 PM
i only watch it to see the american cars do it better and twice as fast because the vipers, mustangs, and goats have 3x's the horsepower of the other cars.
actually im pretty sure the 600+ rwhp g35 was most powerful this year. not taht you need that much.
also most of those "pesky littel crappy rice burners" are putting over 400whp down easily. they have this crazy ricer thing called "forced induction" and "turdbo's" stupid japanese cars :rolleyes:
actually im pretty sure the 600+ rwhp g35 was most powerful this year. not taht you need that much.
also most of those "pesky littel crappy rice burners" are putting over 400whp down easily. they have this crazy ricer thing called "forced induction" and "turdbo's" stupid japanese cars :rolleyes:
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 01:45 PM
I didn't want to assume you were a drifter, but I figured you were since you took to the defense of the sport so readily. I'm not sure people have too many misconceptions of the sport, but I'm sure pre-conceptions are the cause for such posts that you mention. Since style is more important than timed results, racing fans have a hard time getting their heads around a car/style type of motorsport event where speed isn't the winning factor. I guess racing fans approve of drafting more than drifting.
i fail to understand that mentality when you know good and well most the drag racers on this board steadily support burnout and wheelstand competitions when its the exact same thing, judged.
i fail to understand that mentality when you know good and well most the drag racers on this board steadily support burnout and wheelstand competitions when its the exact same thing, judged.
technical
10-13-2005, 01:57 PM
I can't speak for anyone else, but burnout competitions and wheel stand competitions (I actually never heard of those) are quite lame.
Drifting at least requires skill. I personally don't care for it, but I tend not to knock it..too hard. ;)
Drifting at least requires skill. I personally don't care for it, but I tend not to knock it..too hard. ;)
00Pontiac
10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
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~JOSHUA
10-13-2005, 03:53 PM
http://s93261444.onlinehome.us/temp/gaydrift.jpg
:funny: :rotflmao:
:funny: :rotflmao:
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 04:05 PM
http://s93261444.onlinehome.us/temp/gaydrift.jpg
you looking at gay sailors really doesnt contribute much to this thread....perhaps you could go post drag queens in the drag racing forum.....
what im tryign to say is, take your double standard, and GTFO this thread, thanks.
you looking at gay sailors really doesnt contribute much to this thread....perhaps you could go post drag queens in the drag racing forum.....
what im tryign to say is, take your double standard, and GTFO this thread, thanks.
frcefed98
10-13-2005, 04:16 PM
I like watching drifting. Does it make me a ricer, nahh I'm just a car guy and enjoy almost all motorsports. Millen is awesome how he can drift so tightly around his competitors and not hit em or lose control. I'm biased towards the domestics tho:devil: GTO and Viper..not the stang:lol: Keep up the great work bubba drift:D
J:D
J:D
lt1camaro95
10-13-2005, 04:26 PM
Such violence around here.
I decided to watch a drift competion on G4 TV (i think). Once I figured out how they were being judged, it was kinda interesting. I mean how many of us love to kick out the rear end when turning a corner. I am sure if we had the skill and setup on the car we would be doing it too. How many times have you and your buddies tried to out do each other while turning the corner? It was nice to see American cars running the show too. The GTO, Viper, and the El camino hanging sideways was badass exept for one of the cars couldn't keep from spinning out during the finals... was that you doing that Mike?
I decided to watch a drift competion on G4 TV (i think). Once I figured out how they were being judged, it was kinda interesting. I mean how many of us love to kick out the rear end when turning a corner. I am sure if we had the skill and setup on the car we would be doing it too. How many times have you and your buddies tried to out do each other while turning the corner? It was nice to see American cars running the show too. The GTO, Viper, and the El camino hanging sideways was badass exept for one of the cars couldn't keep from spinning out during the finals... was that you doing that Mike?
catfSSh
10-13-2005, 04:52 PM
80's style camry's huh? thats funny, since those are FWD i dont see how they could be drifting, please post some video's and links so i can see what your talking about.
ok ok i looked it up and i ment to say a corolla. im sorry i dont know my shitboxes as good as i thought
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0312_ae86/
ok ok i looked it up and i ment to say a corolla. im sorry i dont know my shitboxes as good as i thought
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0312_ae86/
HellRaiser
10-13-2005, 04:53 PM
I know it takes skill. Alot of it to, I really don't know why I can't get into it, I just can't. Maybe if I saw it live I would change my mind.
Burnout contest, nascar, even drag racing(pro cars that is) I can't get into really. The thing I like to see is two cars built by the owner at his home go head to head in a drag race. Thats what I like the most. The guy that runs 10's and then drives home has my respect.
No offense to anyone here that drifts, I just wanted to know what others were thinking about this growing sport.
Burnout contest, nascar, even drag racing(pro cars that is) I can't get into really. The thing I like to see is two cars built by the owner at his home go head to head in a drag race. Thats what I like the most. The guy that runs 10's and then drives home has my respect.
No offense to anyone here that drifts, I just wanted to know what others were thinking about this growing sport.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 05:16 PM
Such violence around here.
I decided to watch a drift competion on G4 TV (i think). Once I figured out how they were being judged, it was kinda interesting. I mean how many of us love to kick out the rear end when turning a corner. I am sure if we had the skill and setup on the car we would be doing it too. How many times have you and your buddies tried to out do each other while turning the corner?
:thumbsup:
was that you doing that Mike?
nah, ive always ran out of gas :doh: or got caught on the inside plastic barrier things unless i got killed by rhys
I decided to watch a drift competion on G4 TV (i think). Once I figured out how they were being judged, it was kinda interesting. I mean how many of us love to kick out the rear end when turning a corner. I am sure if we had the skill and setup on the car we would be doing it too. How many times have you and your buddies tried to out do each other while turning the corner?
:thumbsup:
was that you doing that Mike?
nah, ive always ran out of gas :doh: or got caught on the inside plastic barrier things unless i got killed by rhys
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 05:20 PM
ok ok i looked it up and i ment to say a corolla. im sorry i dont know my shitboxes as good as i thought
well, you did manage to buy a lt1 car, so i guess ill let it slide.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0312_ae86/
wow, a 2100lb rwd car with a solid rear axle...sounds liek an horrible place to disgrace a v8 by putting it in. i mean seriously who would ever touch a fucking japanese shitbox car, not with a 10 foot pole :rolleyes: sure it woudl make a great sleeper but, damn, its a japanese peice of shit, fucking ricer car. imports suck. :rolleyes:
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
the other night i was riding around when i spotted a blue 00 or around there GT except he had removed his trunk GT emblem and replaced it with a Nissan skyline GT/R emblem so i had to race him. we went at if from about 40 and i was suprised how much i walked away from him with an lt-1. this was my first race against a GT and they must suck from a roll or he cant drive.
you HAD to race him? are you that hardcore of a streetracer?
i can see you taklin to your freind later on that day
"fuckin ricer had to fuckin beat his ass with my slow shit lt1, i dont think he was racin me but i pulled on his ass, fuckin mustang gt-r ricer"
now seriously, go away. you've done more than prove that you suck at life, and have nothing to contribute to this thread. thanks for playing, better luck next time.
well, you did manage to buy a lt1 car, so i guess ill let it slide.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0312_ae86/
wow, a 2100lb rwd car with a solid rear axle...sounds liek an horrible place to disgrace a v8 by putting it in. i mean seriously who would ever touch a fucking japanese shitbox car, not with a 10 foot pole :rolleyes: sure it woudl make a great sleeper but, damn, its a japanese peice of shit, fucking ricer car. imports suck. :rolleyes:
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
the other night i was riding around when i spotted a blue 00 or around there GT except he had removed his trunk GT emblem and replaced it with a Nissan skyline GT/R emblem so i had to race him. we went at if from about 40 and i was suprised how much i walked away from him with an lt-1. this was my first race against a GT and they must suck from a roll or he cant drive.
you HAD to race him? are you that hardcore of a streetracer?
i can see you taklin to your freind later on that day
"fuckin ricer had to fuckin beat his ass with my slow shit lt1, i dont think he was racin me but i pulled on his ass, fuckin mustang gt-r ricer"
now seriously, go away. you've done more than prove that you suck at life, and have nothing to contribute to this thread. thanks for playing, better luck next time.
bruddah_man_matt
10-13-2005, 05:27 PM
Considering that I have full media access at various race events and have had the pleasure of being on the infield at the 2004 D1 Grand Prix and in the paddock and near the infield at Formula D this past August, I can honestly say that Drifting is the shit. For those who say it isn't a sport I can say the same thing about making left hand turns all day at Talladega. Drifting is all about the fans. The fans want to see smoke, rear ends swinging from left to right, cars trading paint and hear everything from a turbo 4 to a monster naturally aspirated V10. One thing I love about drifting is that there's something for everyone at these venues. Hell one team fielded an early 3rd gen Firebird and a G-Body El Camino with a blown LS1 this year. If that doesn't cater to a certain crowd when you consider that the majority of the drivers run S13s, S14s, FDs and whatnot then what does? The amount of precision required to get a 3000 lbs. GTO within inches of an AE86 is rediculous. Yes the sport is subjective but hell that's what makes it stand out. Crowd reaction can be enough to sway a decision. If you've never been you have to check it out. The LS2 GTO driven by Rhys Millen is reason enough to go if you haven't already. And once you've been reeled in by the rumble of his V8, I guarantee you'll begin to appreciate the scream of an SR20DET, RB26DETT or 2JZ-GTE as well.
bruddah_man_matt
10-13-2005, 05:34 PM
i only watch it to see the american cars do it better and twice as fast because the vipers, mustangs, and goats have 3x's the horsepower of the other cars.
Too bad the best Rhys Millen could muster was 5th Place at the D1 Grand Prix in Feb 2005. D1 consists of the best from Japan whereas Formula D originated in the US. Let me tell you something. Hubinette with his Viper Comp Coupe and Ken Gushi with his Mustang GT may be bad ass, but they don't stand a chance against the best of the best from Japan. It's that simple. The Japanese cars are lighter, more agile and from what I've seen the drivers possess more skill for now. Face it, the sport was perfected in Japan and brought here. If Rhys took 1st in Formula D but could only get to 5th in D1 what does that say? I was there and holy shit the race between the GTO and Yasuyuki Kazama's S15 Silvia was by far the best race all afternoon long. But the American cars are often too heavy and much harder to drift. They may reace 3x the speed on the high banks and long straights, but they DO NOT do it 3x as fast. Anyone who thinks that all it takes is hp and torque is a fool. The 3rd gen Firebird and the Elky run in Formula D were bad ass powerhouses that were BIG TIME crowd pleasers on their solo qualifying runs. But their shitty suspensions and hefty curb weights keep the drivers from being able to get close to his opponents car and execute precision movements. Sorry buddy, but if you think Rhys is good, go look up NomuKen and his 4 door R34 Skyline, or Kazama and his S15 Silvia. THAT'S DRIFTING.
Too bad the best Rhys Millen could muster was 5th Place at the D1 Grand Prix in Feb 2005. D1 consists of the best from Japan whereas Formula D originated in the US. Let me tell you something. Hubinette with his Viper Comp Coupe and Ken Gushi with his Mustang GT may be bad ass, but they don't stand a chance against the best of the best from Japan. It's that simple. The Japanese cars are lighter, more agile and from what I've seen the drivers possess more skill for now. Face it, the sport was perfected in Japan and brought here. If Rhys took 1st in Formula D but could only get to 5th in D1 what does that say? I was there and holy shit the race between the GTO and Yasuyuki Kazama's S15 Silvia was by far the best race all afternoon long. But the American cars are often too heavy and much harder to drift. They may reace 3x the speed on the high banks and long straights, but they DO NOT do it 3x as fast. Anyone who thinks that all it takes is hp and torque is a fool. The 3rd gen Firebird and the Elky run in Formula D were bad ass powerhouses that were BIG TIME crowd pleasers on their solo qualifying runs. But their shitty suspensions and hefty curb weights keep the drivers from being able to get close to his opponents car and execute precision movements. Sorry buddy, but if you think Rhys is good, go look up NomuKen and his 4 door R34 Skyline, or Kazama and his S15 Silvia. THAT'S DRIFTING.
mikespeed95
10-13-2005, 05:52 PM
Too bad the best Rhys Millen could muster was 5th Place at the D1 Grand Prix in Feb 2005. D1 consists of the best from Japan whereas Formula D originated in the US. Let me tell you something. Hubinette with his Viper Comp Coupe and Ken Gushi with his Mustang GT may be bad ass, but they don't stand a chance against the best of the best from Japan. It's that simple. The Japanese cars are lighter, more agile and from what I've seen the drivers possess more skill for now. Face it, the sport was perfected in Japan and brought here. If Rhys took 1st in Formula D but could only get to 5th in D1 what does that say? I was there and holy shit the race between the GTO and Yasuyuki Kazama's S15 Silvia was by far the best race all afternoon long. But the American cars are often too heavy and much harder to drift. They may reace 3x the speed on the high banks and long straights, but they DO NOT do it 3x as fast. Anyone who thinks that all it takes is hp and torque is a fool. The 3rd gen Firebird and the Elky run in Formula D were bad ass powerhouses that were BIG TIME crowd pleasers on their solo qualifying runs. But their shitty suspensions and hefty curb weights keep the drivers from being able to get close to his opponents car and execute precision movements. Sorry buddy, but if you think Rhys is good, go look up NomuKen and his 4 door R34 Skyline, or Kazama and his S15 Silvia. THAT'S DRIFTING.
hey, thanks for the input, but the reason i was so far behind is dai cut me off entering the bank when i was against him, and rhys went a lot lower than i did on the big bank, and i lost ground. the suspension and car are still in far less than optimal battle trim though. my car is also putting down 420rwhp, hardly a powerhouse compared to several the 600+rwhp cars out there. i also really think rhys will put up a better fight against d1 this year, remember, that was almost a year ago, rhys has gotten way more insane.
but thanks for your opinion here, people that have seen drifting love it, the stubborn jap-crap hating ignorant fools who havent seen it and bash on it really dont know what they are missing.
hey, thanks for the input, but the reason i was so far behind is dai cut me off entering the bank when i was against him, and rhys went a lot lower than i did on the big bank, and i lost ground. the suspension and car are still in far less than optimal battle trim though. my car is also putting down 420rwhp, hardly a powerhouse compared to several the 600+rwhp cars out there. i also really think rhys will put up a better fight against d1 this year, remember, that was almost a year ago, rhys has gotten way more insane.
but thanks for your opinion here, people that have seen drifting love it, the stubborn jap-crap hating ignorant fools who havent seen it and bash on it really dont know what they are missing.
catfSSh
10-13-2005, 06:15 PM
wow, a 2100lb rwd car with a solid rear axle...sounds liek an horrible place to disgrace a v8 by putting it in. i mean seriously who would ever touch a fucking japanese shitbox car, not with a 10 foot pole :rolleyes: sure it woudl make a great sleeper but, damn, its a japanese peice of shit, fucking ricer car. imports suck. :rolleyes:
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
geez take it easy. the whole point of me putting in the link was to just show you that a corolla could drift. i just looked at the picture and pasted the link. i didnt even read the article and i dont even know what it says. and did i ever say i thought that car was nice. no it was just as close to a toyota drifting video as i could get. as reqested by you. and i dont understand why you are bashing the car in the one paragraph, then say it can spin tires in 4th and glorify it in the next. Im honestly confused by your post.
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
geez take it easy. the whole point of me putting in the link was to just show you that a corolla could drift. i just looked at the picture and pasted the link. i didnt even read the article and i dont even know what it says. and did i ever say i thought that car was nice. no it was just as close to a toyota drifting video as i could get. as reqested by you. and i dont understand why you are bashing the car in the one paragraph, then say it can spin tires in 4th and glorify it in the next. Im honestly confused by your post.
bruddah_man_matt
10-13-2005, 10:29 PM
hey, thanks for the input, but the reason i was so far behind is dai cut me off entering the bank when i was against him, and rhys went a lot lower than i did on the big bank, and i lost ground. the suspension and car are still in far less than optimal battle trim though. my car is also putting down 420rwhp, hardly a powerhouse compared to several the 600+rwhp cars out there. i also really think rhys will put up a better fight against d1 this year, remember, that was almost a year ago, rhys has gotten way more insane.
but thanks for your opinion here, people that have seen drifting love it, the stubborn jap-crap hating ignorant fools who havent seen it and bash on it really dont know what they are missing.
OMFG YOU DRIVE THE HELLCAMINO. D00D THAT IS BALLER ASS. I feel it only fair to inform people on this board that the best of the best come from the land of the rising sun for now, because some of my friends themselves who are into Japanese sport compacts talk shit about the El Camino and the Firebird for going out and doing their thing. The thing is, THE FANS LOOOOVVVVEEEE your car. It's just so damn different and original. I think that's why even the hardcore D1 fans both hate on and love Rhys and the GTO. They say he'll never be as good as the rest of the guys simply because he runs a pushrod V8, yet at the same time, they applaud the V8 rumble and go nuts when he trades paint with some of the big guns from Japan. Holy shit I had no idea the driver of the Elky was a member here. Dammit my gf almost got a T-shirt from you guys at Formula D, but some assclown grabbed it from her. I gotta give you guys props for catering to the crowd man. That's what I love about Drifting. For the time being, the race purses aren't all that high (I think). I know at the D1 Grand Prix Kazama only walked away with 5k. Yes 5 thousand bucks. I'm not sure about Formula D. Nonetheless, drifting is way more about the fans and the cars they love and want to see get sideways. That's what I enjoy. NOWHERE else in the world will you see a GTO build in Oz, a G-Body Elky with an LS1 swap, a Hachi Roku and an FD RX-7 all running on the same track and all eligible to compete with one another. If you ask me, drifting is a melting pot for all different types of automobiles. I heard someone tried drifting a 360 Challenge once (nice to see someone wringing the shit out of a Ferrari for once) and while he drove like a n00b and almost hit an official, I remember someone entering an E46 coupe at the time trials at Irwindale. In any case happy motoring and good luck next year.
One a side note, you are one ballsy ass mother to drift with a TH-350 behind your engine. Have you ever considered swapping it out for a T-56. I assume it'd fit since I've seen em swapped into G-Body Monte Carlo SSs with LSx swaps. I'd imagine any sort of manual transmission would be much more suited to drifting as it gives you more control over the engine and the car??? Oh and what is the Firebird packing? :) Pardon the questions, I was just really curious.
but thanks for your opinion here, people that have seen drifting love it, the stubborn jap-crap hating ignorant fools who havent seen it and bash on it really dont know what they are missing.
OMFG YOU DRIVE THE HELLCAMINO. D00D THAT IS BALLER ASS. I feel it only fair to inform people on this board that the best of the best come from the land of the rising sun for now, because some of my friends themselves who are into Japanese sport compacts talk shit about the El Camino and the Firebird for going out and doing their thing. The thing is, THE FANS LOOOOVVVVEEEE your car. It's just so damn different and original. I think that's why even the hardcore D1 fans both hate on and love Rhys and the GTO. They say he'll never be as good as the rest of the guys simply because he runs a pushrod V8, yet at the same time, they applaud the V8 rumble and go nuts when he trades paint with some of the big guns from Japan. Holy shit I had no idea the driver of the Elky was a member here. Dammit my gf almost got a T-shirt from you guys at Formula D, but some assclown grabbed it from her. I gotta give you guys props for catering to the crowd man. That's what I love about Drifting. For the time being, the race purses aren't all that high (I think). I know at the D1 Grand Prix Kazama only walked away with 5k. Yes 5 thousand bucks. I'm not sure about Formula D. Nonetheless, drifting is way more about the fans and the cars they love and want to see get sideways. That's what I enjoy. NOWHERE else in the world will you see a GTO build in Oz, a G-Body Elky with an LS1 swap, a Hachi Roku and an FD RX-7 all running on the same track and all eligible to compete with one another. If you ask me, drifting is a melting pot for all different types of automobiles. I heard someone tried drifting a 360 Challenge once (nice to see someone wringing the shit out of a Ferrari for once) and while he drove like a n00b and almost hit an official, I remember someone entering an E46 coupe at the time trials at Irwindale. In any case happy motoring and good luck next year.
One a side note, you are one ballsy ass mother to drift with a TH-350 behind your engine. Have you ever considered swapping it out for a T-56. I assume it'd fit since I've seen em swapped into G-Body Monte Carlo SSs with LSx swaps. I'd imagine any sort of manual transmission would be much more suited to drifting as it gives you more control over the engine and the car??? Oh and what is the Firebird packing? :) Pardon the questions, I was just really curious.
Carter Hays
10-13-2005, 11:25 PM
Learning something here. So is it a competition to see who can fishtail the farthest? Or who slides to the line first?
z28evans
10-14-2005, 01:50 AM
OMFG YOU DRIVE THE HELLCAMINO.
yup, mike drives the elco, with Derrick driving the firebird (derrick drove the elco last year).
It is my el camino, we got started doing it for fun, and it just kinda evolved. We are probably with-a-doubt the lowest budget team in FD, and considering we finished tied for 8th in points it is amazing. We've been on this forum for awhile - the hybrids section helped me with my motor swap :)
I can understand most of the negative reactions drifting gets - i had the same attitude when derrick asked to take my elco to a drift event the first time (my background is drag racing, at both the track, and uhh other places). Since then i've become a big believer in the sport and where it is headed.
As far as running the auto trans - thats what we started with (i bought it used for $200 off of a local forum) because we were low budget. We are still not sure what we will do next year, we are about to test a setup from a potential sponsor (they are a sponsor of this forum as well).
what we started out as:
http://www.bubbadrift.com/origpaint_small1.jpg
now with some sponsors, etc.
http://www.bubbadrift.com/miketrophysm_small.jpg
more info about us at www.BubbaDrift.com also lots of videos and photos as well
thanks,
james
yup, mike drives the elco, with Derrick driving the firebird (derrick drove the elco last year).
It is my el camino, we got started doing it for fun, and it just kinda evolved. We are probably with-a-doubt the lowest budget team in FD, and considering we finished tied for 8th in points it is amazing. We've been on this forum for awhile - the hybrids section helped me with my motor swap :)
I can understand most of the negative reactions drifting gets - i had the same attitude when derrick asked to take my elco to a drift event the first time (my background is drag racing, at both the track, and uhh other places). Since then i've become a big believer in the sport and where it is headed.
As far as running the auto trans - thats what we started with (i bought it used for $200 off of a local forum) because we were low budget. We are still not sure what we will do next year, we are about to test a setup from a potential sponsor (they are a sponsor of this forum as well).
what we started out as:
http://www.bubbadrift.com/origpaint_small1.jpg
now with some sponsors, etc.
http://www.bubbadrift.com/miketrophysm_small.jpg
more info about us at www.BubbaDrift.com also lots of videos and photos as well
thanks,
james
mikespeed95
10-14-2005, 03:34 AM
wow, a 2100lb rwd car with a solid rear axle...sounds liek an horrible place to disgrace a v8 by putting it in. i mean seriously who would ever touch a fucking japanese shitbox car, not with a 10 foot pole :rolleyes: sure it woudl make a great sleeper but, damn, its a japanese peice of shit, fucking ricer car. imports suck. :rolleyes:
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
geez take it easy. the whole point of me putting in the link was to just show you that a corolla could drift. i just looked at the picture and pasted the link. i didnt even read the article and i dont even know what it says. and did i ever say i thought that car was nice. no it was just as close to a toyota drifting video as i could get. as reqested by you. and i dont understand why you are bashing the car in the one paragraph, then say it can spin tires in 4th and glorify it in the next. Im honestly confused by your post.
its called sarcasm extreme, sorry. i was mocking the ricer bs i read wayyy to often on this site with anything japanese being looked at as a waste of metal.
btw, that litle 200whp can slide white smoking the tires in 4th gear , can YOU do that? now go away, thanks for posting.
edit, you flame drifting, but YOU call this guy a RICER when..
geez take it easy. the whole point of me putting in the link was to just show you that a corolla could drift. i just looked at the picture and pasted the link. i didnt even read the article and i dont even know what it says. and did i ever say i thought that car was nice. no it was just as close to a toyota drifting video as i could get. as reqested by you. and i dont understand why you are bashing the car in the one paragraph, then say it can spin tires in 4th and glorify it in the next. Im honestly confused by your post.
its called sarcasm extreme, sorry. i was mocking the ricer bs i read wayyy to often on this site with anything japanese being looked at as a waste of metal.
mikespeed95
10-14-2005, 03:49 AM
Learning something here. So is it a competition to see who can fishtail the farthest? Or who slides to the line first?
there is no line to get to first, DRIFTING IS NOT RACING, NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL BE. this is a misconception, where it came from i dont know, and i wish it would go back. think of it like like x games is the simplest analogy available. they make basic course outlay (pro level normally consists of concrete walls and cones, whoever has the run that looks the most balls to the wall (speed,line,angle) while on the "clipping points" (established points layed out by the judges that basically act as an apex, however they are not in the proper racing line and do require skill to hit up properly) getrs the highest score, then moves onto two car tandem, the leader tries to lay down everything hes got, and hte follow car (shoudl be inches behind) mimics, and tries to outdo the leader with more angle/speed.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
there is no line to get to first, DRIFTING IS NOT RACING, NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL BE. this is a misconception, where it came from i dont know, and i wish it would go back. think of it like like x games is the simplest analogy available. they make basic course outlay (pro level normally consists of concrete walls and cones, whoever has the run that looks the most balls to the wall (speed,line,angle) while on the "clipping points" (established points layed out by the judges that basically act as an apex, however they are not in the proper racing line and do require skill to hit up properly) getrs the highest score, then moves onto two car tandem, the leader tries to lay down everything hes got, and hte follow car (shoudl be inches behind) mimics, and tries to outdo the leader with more angle/speed.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
LS1TechRulez
10-14-2005, 06:26 AM
the one thing I dont understand is why dont we see more domestics in drifting?
how come I have never seen a camaro drifting with the imports?
I know they had that drifting GTO but thats all I have seen so far.
how come I have never seen a camaro drifting with the imports?
I know they had that drifting GTO but thats all I have seen so far.
z28evans
10-14-2005, 09:17 AM
the one thing I dont understand is why dont we see more domestics in drifting?
Since it came from japan most people use the same japanese cars popular in japan. At the beginning drifting was only known to those who followed the japanese car culture, we got a lot of hate for being one of the first domestics. Also, the attitudes towards drifting were very negative towards drifting from the domestic crowd - largely from the 'rice' image of the sport and from misconceptions of how the judging is done.
This year there have been several domsetic cars, including a 69 camaro with a big block, a third gen camaro, and several mustangs.
I expect to see more domestics in the future as well :)
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7825.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_8015.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7795.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7778.jpg
Since it came from japan most people use the same japanese cars popular in japan. At the beginning drifting was only known to those who followed the japanese car culture, we got a lot of hate for being one of the first domestics. Also, the attitudes towards drifting were very negative towards drifting from the domestic crowd - largely from the 'rice' image of the sport and from misconceptions of how the judging is done.
This year there have been several domsetic cars, including a 69 camaro with a big block, a third gen camaro, and several mustangs.
I expect to see more domestics in the future as well :)
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7825.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_8015.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7795.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7778.jpg
Spectator
10-14-2005, 11:35 AM
You know, I used to think drifting was some gay ass ricer shit... Then I saw it up close live at the Long Beach Grand Prix, it was a drifting demonstration, not a competition... watching these cars put out gobs of tire smoke through the corners while being inches away from the wall made me do a 180 on drifting... One car even put out red tire smoke, now that was beautiful. Watching car tailing inches away from the back bumper while roasting their tires and going sideways really is something you have to see up close to fully appreciate.
Watching the Elco drift is a blast, and it really is a crowd favorite.
Watching the Elco drift is a blast, and it really is a crowd favorite.
technical
10-14-2005, 11:58 AM
there is no line to get to first, DRIFTING IS NOT RACING, NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL BE. this is a misconception, where it came from i dont know, and i wish it would go back. think of it like like x games is the simplest analogy available. they make basic course outlay (pro level normally consists of concrete walls and cones, whoever has the run that looks the most balls to the wall (speed,line,angle) while on the "clipping points" (established points layed out by the judges that basically act as an apex, however they are not in the proper racing line and do require skill to hit up properly) getrs the highest score, then moves onto two car tandem, the leader tries to lay down everything hes got, and hte follow car (shoudl be inches behind) mimics, and tries to outdo the leader with more angle/speed.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
I watched the video, but I still don't get it. Maybe it's fun to do, but watching just doesn't do it for me. :zzz:
Drifting is the snchronized swimming of the motorsports world. You have the uniform, you're in the water, but it ain't no 100M freestyle.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
I watched the video, but I still don't get it. Maybe it's fun to do, but watching just doesn't do it for me. :zzz:
Drifting is the snchronized swimming of the motorsports world. You have the uniform, you're in the water, but it ain't no 100M freestyle.
bulletLS1
10-14-2005, 01:03 PM
it would be fun to do, and a lot of the cars in the professional competitions are actually making good power. dont try it in an f-body though, the solid rear end is not gonna like drifting
I do roadrace and whnever I drift I have to change my pants :)
I have a camaro 98` all free mods, now hangar queen for more than a tear waitiong for a FULL MOD ZO6
I do roadrace and whnever I drift I have to change my pants :)
I have a camaro 98` all free mods, now hangar queen for more than a tear waitiong for a FULL MOD ZO6
bruddah_man_matt
10-14-2005, 03:17 PM
Since it came from japan most people use the same japanese cars popular in japan. At the beginning drifting was only known to those who followed the japanese car culture, we got a lot of hate for being one of the first domestics. Also, the attitudes towards drifting were very negative towards drifting from the domestic crowd - largely from the 'rice' image of the sport and from misconceptions of how the judging is done.
This year there have been several domsetic cars, including a 69 camaro with a big block, a third gen camaro, and several mustangs.
I expect to see more domestics in the future as well :)
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7825.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_8015.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7795.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7778.jpg
Holy shit Falken backs a 69 Camaro too? Christ I lost count of how many cars those guys are sponsoring. I know they back the 4 guys who make up the Drift Alliance (an S15, Mustang GT, FD and an S13) and they back another 3 or so S13s, a pair of S14s, another FD and that bad ass G35 (at least that's how it was in '04). You telling me they added a '69 Camaro to their lineup for '05? Hot damn.
This year there have been several domsetic cars, including a 69 camaro with a big block, a third gen camaro, and several mustangs.
I expect to see more domestics in the future as well :)
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7825.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_8015.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7795.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/media/images/13-410152/gal/_MG_7778.jpg
Holy shit Falken backs a 69 Camaro too? Christ I lost count of how many cars those guys are sponsoring. I know they back the 4 guys who make up the Drift Alliance (an S15, Mustang GT, FD and an S13) and they back another 3 or so S13s, a pair of S14s, another FD and that bad ass G35 (at least that's how it was in '04). You telling me they added a '69 Camaro to their lineup for '05? Hot damn.
MillaTK
10-14-2005, 03:39 PM
Drifting is gay, only ricers do it...
Carter Hays
10-14-2005, 04:16 PM
there is no line to get to first, DRIFTING IS NOT RACING, NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL BE. this is a misconception, where it came from i dont know, and i wish it would go back. think of it like like x games is the simplest analogy available. they make basic course outlay (pro level normally consists of concrete walls and cones, whoever has the run that looks the most balls to the wall (speed,line,angle) while on the "clipping points" (established points layed out by the judges that basically act as an apex, however they are not in the proper racing line and do require skill to hit up properly) getrs the highest score, then moves onto two car tandem, the leader tries to lay down everything hes got, and hte follow car (shoudl be inches behind) mimics, and tries to outdo the leader with more angle/speed.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
Thank you for the info and link, as I was a little confused about it.
Is a live-axle car a better candidate, or one with IRS? Seems at first glance that a live-axle setup without a wing would be best, but this is all new to me.
good run from the last event
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9669
im tryign to find rhys's runs from wall qualifying, as it is an example of perfect.
Thank you for the info and link, as I was a little confused about it.
Is a live-axle car a better candidate, or one with IRS? Seems at first glance that a live-axle setup without a wing would be best, but this is all new to me.
Pat7272
10-17-2005, 12:40 AM
deleted - im dumb
z28evans
10-17-2005, 08:59 AM
not needed anymore :drive:
Phoenix 5.7
10-17-2005, 03:57 PM
i didn't read through quite all of this, but heres my .02 Drifting takes a shitload of talent to drive a car past its limits and keep in control, never mind make an art of it. i hope to make it to a D1 event one day. its not a race, but it is a showcase of talent and power. i do find its hilarious that the top 3 cars are all domestics with at least 8 cylinders. "drifting" anywhere but the track is gay and the stupidest thing i have ever heard of though.
mikespeed95
10-18-2005, 04:30 PM
Holy shit Falken backs a 69 Camaro too? Christ I lost count of how many cars those guys are sponsoring. I know they back the 4 guys who make up the Drift Alliance (an S15, Mustang GT, FD and an S13) and they back another 3 or so S13s, a pair of S14s, another FD and that bad ass G35 (at least that's how it was in '04). You telling me they added a '69 Camaro to their lineup for '05? Hot damn.
Ryan Hampton is driving the camaro, he replaced Koguchi's old S13 with the Camaro at Sonoma.
Ryan Hampton is driving the camaro, he replaced Koguchi's old S13 with the Camaro at Sonoma.
mikespeed95
10-18-2005, 04:39 PM
I watched the video, but I still don't get it. Maybe it's fun to do, but watching just doesn't do it for me. :zzz:
Drifting is the snchronized swimming of the motorsports world. You have the uniform, you're in the water, but it ain't no 100M freestyle.
well, since drifting isnt your cup of tea, what motorsport do you actively participate in?
if you can come up with an answer, go posts in threads pertaining to that activity, you've stated your opinion more than once, and honestly you are not contributing anythign to this thread other than a infentile attempt to persuade others that drifting is not welcome here, and should be frowned upon. this is not the case, several sponsors of ls1tech agree, so please move along. thanks.
Drifting is the snchronized swimming of the motorsports world. You have the uniform, you're in the water, but it ain't no 100M freestyle.
well, since drifting isnt your cup of tea, what motorsport do you actively participate in?
if you can come up with an answer, go posts in threads pertaining to that activity, you've stated your opinion more than once, and honestly you are not contributing anythign to this thread other than a infentile attempt to persuade others that drifting is not welcome here, and should be frowned upon. this is not the case, several sponsors of ls1tech agree, so please move along. thanks.
mikespeed95
10-18-2005, 04:53 PM
issue resolved
mods do what you will with these couple posts.
mods do what you will with these couple posts.
mikespeed95
10-18-2005, 04:57 PM
i didn't read through quite all of this, but heres my .02 Drifting takes a shitload of talent to drive a car past its limits and keep in control, never mind make an art of it. i hope to make it to a D1 event one day. its not a race, but it is a showcase of talent and power. i do find its hilarious that the top 3 cars are all domestics with at least 8 cylinders. "drifting" anywhere but the track is gay and the stupidest thing i have ever heard of though.
hey, i happen to have smoe freinds in lafayette that coem to the houston events, as well as the road course drift sessions at www.noproblemraceway.com
if you can coem out to our dailydrifter event on the 30th of october, info at www.dailydrifter.com
also feel free to join our forum we jsut got up and running, basically its for local drifting retard freinds of ours and for events, and for just random college kid bored random posting sprees, www.bubbadrift.com/forums
hope to see you at an event!
hey, i happen to have smoe freinds in lafayette that coem to the houston events, as well as the road course drift sessions at www.noproblemraceway.com
if you can coem out to our dailydrifter event on the 30th of october, info at www.dailydrifter.com
also feel free to join our forum we jsut got up and running, basically its for local drifting retard freinds of ours and for events, and for just random college kid bored random posting sprees, www.bubbadrift.com/forums
hope to see you at an event!
mikespeed95
10-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Thank you for the info and link, as I was a little confused about it.
Is a live-axle car a better candidate, or one with IRS? Seems at first glance that a live-axle setup without a wing would be best, but this is all new to me.
in my expereience on tracks and for the most part smooth parkign lots i like the solid rear axle better for the sheer fact that tires wear very evenly.
Is a live-axle car a better candidate, or one with IRS? Seems at first glance that a live-axle setup without a wing would be best, but this is all new to me.
in my expereience on tracks and for the most part smooth parkign lots i like the solid rear axle better for the sheer fact that tires wear very evenly.
Pat7272
10-18-2005, 11:58 PM
Guys - I posted about something I didnt have all my facts straight on and in the process talked bad about a guy I know in person, albiet not too well but I hope no permant damage was done. I shouldnt have posted that, hell of a way to join the forum to say the least, and Im sorry Mike.
unit213
10-19-2005, 08:06 AM
mods do what you will with these couple posts.
Absolutely nothing. I didn't see anything that warrants any
action from a moderator.
For the most part, I'm in agreement with my fellow members.
Absolutely nothing. I didn't see anything that warrants any
action from a moderator.
For the most part, I'm in agreement with my fellow members.
technical
10-19-2005, 08:51 AM
well, since drifting isnt your cup of tea, what motorsport do you actively participate in?
if you can come up with an answer, go posts in threads pertaining to that activity, you've stated your opinion more than once, and honestly you are not contributing anythign to this thread other than a infentile attempt to persuade others that drifting is not welcome here, and should be frowned upon. this is not the case, several sponsors of ls1tech agree, so please move along. thanks.
To answer your first question...autocross.
To the second part...I'm agreeing with the original poster where he states "I don't get it." This isn't your thread simply because you like drifting and take offense to anyone who disagrees. You posted up some videos under the premise that people who blindly discredit drifting are missing out on something. I watched the videos and I still maintain my position. You continue to assume this is your thread, but you didn't start it. If you don't like what you are reading here, then you should be the one to leave. I have no desire to argue with you. The only point to my last post was that some people, like me, know exactly what drifiting is and no amount of convincing on your part is going to change my mind. Calling me infantile because I stated my opinion more than once when you have posted three times as much berating anyone who disagrees is terribly hypocritical.
if you can come up with an answer, go posts in threads pertaining to that activity, you've stated your opinion more than once, and honestly you are not contributing anythign to this thread other than a infentile attempt to persuade others that drifting is not welcome here, and should be frowned upon. this is not the case, several sponsors of ls1tech agree, so please move along. thanks.
To answer your first question...autocross.
To the second part...I'm agreeing with the original poster where he states "I don't get it." This isn't your thread simply because you like drifting and take offense to anyone who disagrees. You posted up some videos under the premise that people who blindly discredit drifting are missing out on something. I watched the videos and I still maintain my position. You continue to assume this is your thread, but you didn't start it. If you don't like what you are reading here, then you should be the one to leave. I have no desire to argue with you. The only point to my last post was that some people, like me, know exactly what drifiting is and no amount of convincing on your part is going to change my mind. Calling me infantile because I stated my opinion more than once when you have posted three times as much berating anyone who disagrees is terribly hypocritical.