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10-26-2005, 09:57 AM
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New Discussion wiring. Ok the last discussion we had on hidden stuff " https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/397176-discussion-why-hide-your-system.html "
went rather well I thought so I thought about another topic wiring.
Did you do your own wiring or pay a shop to did it? Did you follow the instructions and warning laid out by your mfg system? And finally was there any problem during the wiring you wished you would have done something different.
Ricky
went rather well I thought so I thought about another topic wiring.
Did you do your own wiring or pay a shop to did it? Did you follow the instructions and warning laid out by your mfg system? And finally was there any problem during the wiring you wished you would have done something different.
Ricky
10-26-2005, 11:17 AM
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I did my own
I usually read the instructions and follow warnings on any wiring job that is more than a basic kit. Although sometimes I may deviate slightly.
No problems...but things I wish I would have done different are usually routing issues I see after install
I usually read the instructions and follow warnings on any wiring job that is more than a basic kit. Although sometimes I may deviate slightly.
No problems...but things I wish I would have done different are usually routing issues I see after install
10-26-2005, 11:33 AM
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Sometimes schematics confuse people, but once you see how it gets set up it becomes understandable. Also, alot of people don't really understand the purpose of what a relay does either. Pin 87 86 30 87a SPDT/SPST ect. gets confusing. Once they grasp that its becomes simple and more clear of how the system functions.
Personally, I've built 2 kits out of parts and feel safe doing so. As long as the solenoids and relays are good quality everything should be fine.
Personally, I've built 2 kits out of parts and feel safe doing so. As long as the solenoids and relays are good quality everything should be fine.
10-26-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
Ok the last discussion we had on hidden stuff " https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397176 "
went rather well I thought so I thought about another topic wiring.
Did you do your own wiring or pay a shop to did it? Did you follow the instructions and warning laid out by your mfg system? And finally was there any problem during the wiring you wished you would have done something different.
Ricky
went rather well I thought so I thought about another topic wiring.
Did you do your own wiring or pay a shop to did it? Did you follow the instructions and warning laid out by your mfg system? And finally was there any problem during the wiring you wished you would have done something different.
Ricky
2. Followed the instructions though I did need a lot of C5-specific help that I thankfully got from a few kind folks on here.
3. I wish I had just used the WOT switch that came with my kit in the first place instead of the TPS switch I bought and ended up not using.
10-26-2005, 01:47 PM
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I have done my own everytime and installed a hand full of other peoples kits for them.None of them have ever been a basic install and always had lots of other toys to wire in.
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10-26-2005, 02:41 PM
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First let me say that I've done everything to my car myself from the brakes and shocks to heads and cam(and everything in between). But I paid someone to instal my nitrous kit. Just wanted to make sure it was done right and looked professional. I started on the instal and the bracket I had made to house the noids was immediatley tossed aside by the mech. I could have done it myself but it wouldnt have been of the quality instal that it is. Replacing parts is a lot easier than fabing in new ones. For me anyway.
10-26-2005, 09:30 PM
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To be honest, I dont feel comfortable doing my own Wiring. Especially when its something like a n20 kit. I would rather a "master installer" wie mine up then me hooking it up.
10-26-2005, 10:03 PM
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On my own, I spent 4 days wiring, soldering, routing cables/lines and making sure everything passed my own scrutiny 
That doesn't count the laminated wiring diagram I made
That doesn't count the laminated wiring diagram I made
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10-26-2005, 10:18 PM
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Built my own kit and wired it in myself. I like to think I am very good at electrical, I have actually completely wired a few vehicles, so a few relays and a couple switches were nothing.
10-27-2005, 12:36 AM
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I do my own wiring and my current set-up by far is the most complicated I have done.
7-relays
6-noids (more coming)
3-window sws
1-wot
1-1st gear lock-out
3-WS rpm indictor lights
5-toggle sws
1-LM1 wide band
2-elect pressure gauges
1-pair 95* elect transducers
1-bottle heater
1-elect bottle opener (currently removed)
1-purge set-up
and more.
The only problem I had was the complexity, meaning, everytime I thought I was done, I would have to pull trim and/or battery out again to make adjustments. So, getting to my mostly hidden wiring, i wish I would have made it easier to access. Here's a sample behind my homemade sw panel, which has since been cleaned up and more sws and indicator lights added. The green lights come on at rpm according to their respective window sw with one more to be added (great testing/diagnostic tool).
Robert
7-relays
6-noids (more coming)
3-window sws
1-wot
1-1st gear lock-out
3-WS rpm indictor lights
5-toggle sws
1-LM1 wide band
2-elect pressure gauges
1-pair 95* elect transducers
1-bottle heater
1-elect bottle opener (currently removed)
1-purge set-up
and more.
The only problem I had was the complexity, meaning, everytime I thought I was done, I would have to pull trim and/or battery out again to make adjustments. So, getting to my mostly hidden wiring, i wish I would have made it easier to access. Here's a sample behind my homemade sw panel, which has since been cleaned up and more sws and indicator lights added. The green lights come on at rpm according to their respective window sw with one more to be added (great testing/diagnostic tool).
Robert
10-27-2005, 12:43 AM
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I try not to go much further than the basic wiring jobs, although if I really needed to do a big job I am rpetty sure I would do it my slef. I do want to get better at soldering though. I rarely solder in the car because I am clumbsy and scared I will burn the carpet or something.
10-27-2005, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Robert, have you thought of going to the 3M, Bussman, or simular line of terminal strips? Then you can save alot of space (all those terminal connectors) by going directly to the terminal strip/s and it'll help out in troubleshooting also.
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10-27-2005, 08:07 AM
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I've been involved in wiring systems in cars for many (many) years. I do my own. I'm never too proud to ask for help.
My best advice is to:
0- FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!!
1- THINK OUT THE SYSTEM before running wire one. Grab paper and pencil and lay out what you are doing.
2- If you do this stuff yourself - get an inexpensive multi-meter from Sears. Learn to read resistance and DC voltage. You'll use it more than you think...in the car, at home...
3- Don't start one one end and lay out one wire at a time. If you have a bunch of wires like (for example Robert) try to find ways to keep them as clean as possible...connectors, molex plugs, weather proof connectors where needed.
4- Poor connections are a huge contributor to failures. I try to stay away from in-line taps. Clean metal at ground.
5- Know your fuse box and power connection points. You may not want to grab power at the closest location. If you do have a failure and kill power to engine management or equiv...it may have major consequences.
6- If you connect directly top the battery...put a fuse at the battery. If you get a short, you need to open the connection as close to the battery as possible.
7 - Grab a beverage of choice and an engineer: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
Circuits are confusing, but make an effort to understand them before you run a single wire. These circuits arn't that tough if you understand what you are trying to do.
My best advice is to:
0- FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!!
1- THINK OUT THE SYSTEM before running wire one. Grab paper and pencil and lay out what you are doing.
2- If you do this stuff yourself - get an inexpensive multi-meter from Sears. Learn to read resistance and DC voltage. You'll use it more than you think...in the car, at home...
3- Don't start one one end and lay out one wire at a time. If you have a bunch of wires like (for example Robert) try to find ways to keep them as clean as possible...connectors, molex plugs, weather proof connectors where needed.
4- Poor connections are a huge contributor to failures. I try to stay away from in-line taps. Clean metal at ground.
5- Know your fuse box and power connection points. You may not want to grab power at the closest location. If you do have a failure and kill power to engine management or equiv...it may have major consequences.
6- If you connect directly top the battery...put a fuse at the battery. If you get a short, you need to open the connection as close to the battery as possible.
7 - Grab a beverage of choice and an engineer: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
Circuits are confusing, but make an effort to understand them before you run a single wire. These circuits arn't that tough if you understand what you are trying to do.
Last edited by Macon; 10-27-2005 at 09:33 AM.
10-27-2005, 12:15 PM
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Man all good points, and ROBERT dammmmmm,,,,, that is what you call NOT a quick check system.. I bet you started simple and just kept adding, and adding, and adding.. do like your indicator lights.
1 maximizer 2 and a few hours would clean all that up. lol
Ricky
1 maximizer 2 and a few hours would clean all that up. lol
Ricky
10-27-2005, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
I do all my own and alot of correcting from other shopp's. it really isn't hard but you need to pay attention and do it right!
If it does not look like it came that way from the dealer I am not happy!
If it does not look like it came that way from the dealer I am not happy!
Also, what Macon said is good too. Draw it first, then think about it, then draw it again. Then buy the parts and make sure you get the proper tools (crimpers and such).
-somebody
10-27-2005, 02:41 PM
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I do all my own wiring. I pretty much disregard the factory wiring diagram and wire it up based on the users preferrences. I am an electrical engineer so holding wiring schematics in my head is really easy. I like using some weather pack connectors up by the relays so working on the car is much easier if things need to come apart. Wiring loom is also nice to hide wiring and gives a more factory look if routed well.
10-27-2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
Robert, have you thought of going to the 3M, Bussman, or simular line of terminal strips? Then you can save alot of space (all those terminal connectors) by going directly to the terminal strip/s and it'll help out in troubleshooting also.
Robert