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Old 11-04-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default (THE OFFICAL)help noobies choose the right cam for application!!!

ok well i figuered after reading over 16 hours of post(eyes hurt and i feel sick!) i figuerd we could start a brand new up to date and the latest thread, With all the new TURBO stuff going around what CAM you have in your car and your dyno #ERS and how you like it!!! TO start it off i have

STOCK 346 ls1
lq9 heads
moral lifers
comp daul springs turbo kit in mind (STREET KILLER SINGLE TURBO)

please help me and other with a choice! As you can see i already have a Lopy cam that i can not use, I know i need to have LSA of 15 or higher...THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO WANT SOME LOPE with THERE TURBO!!

had the z06 cam in mind how ever noo lope but i here it does very good!!



WHAT CAM DO YOU HAVE WHAT BOOST ARE YOU AT AND WHAT ARE YOUR HP NUMBERS??

THANKS TO ALL FOR THERE HELPFULLNESS!!!!
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If someone is picking a cam for the "sound of it" they really have no business going turbo. The entire purpose of going turbo is to go fast.

With that said I personally like the z06 cam and the stock cam, very proven profiles.

You can see that my car has a cam and also my power. I hate the cam, but it came pre installed in the car when I purchased it. I am going to the Z06 cam very soon when my new motor is done.
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and for the record you dont NEED an LSA of 115.people are making alot of power with a cam with less than that specific LSA.it will simply idle better and help out but not necessary to make power and higher LSA~less lope.i went with a custom cam from HPE thats in my shortblock waiting on the heads still.

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Originally Posted by ddnspider
and for the record you dont NEED an LSA of 115 or more.people are making alot of power with a cam with less than that LSA.it will simply idle better and help out but not necessary to make power and higher LSA~less lope.i went with a custom cam from HPE thats in my shortblock waiting on the heads still.
then lets change need to higly reccomend. overall the motor will run better, spool quicker, and make more power because the wider lsa taylors to the turbos breathing capability
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i had a 224/224-114 (347 cubes)
had a good lope i made 512/536 back in the day with 10psi
if i had to do it over id probably go with a smaller cam in the 220/220 range with either a 115 or 116 for drivability sake, though the lope was nice.
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Originally Posted by 8KickassRS9
then lets change need to higly reccomend. overall the motor will run better, spool quicker, and make more power because the wider lsa taylors to the turbos breathing capability
borrowing from Forced Inductions website
"There are way too many factors to just say XX cam will make XX power with your combo. Things like "114LS is best, or 117LS, or ..etc", are just blanket statements. Backpressure, RPM range, boost level, target horsepower, A/R of turbo, turbo frame (T3, T4, T6/Thumper), head flow, cubic inches, and even location of turbo...etc. All of these factors are extremely important in determining the cam that best suits your needs. There is no rule of thumb with a turbo cam. There are too many variables and the only way to get the right cam is to take all of those your parameters into consideration, and only then can a proper cam be selected."
you cant just say OH 115LSA or higher is automatically best.depends on your setup.that said my LSA on my custom cam is 115
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
borrowing from Forced Inductions website
"There are way too many factors to just say XX cam will make XX power with your combo. Things like "114LS is best, or 117LS, or ..etc", are just blanket statements. Backpressure, RPM range, boost level, target horsepower, A/R of turbo, turbo frame (T3, T4, T6/Thumper), head flow, cubic inches, and even location of turbo...etc. All of these factors are extremely important in determining the cam that best suits your needs. There is no rule of thumb with a turbo cam. There are too many variables and the only way to get the right cam is to take all of those your parameters into consideration, and only then can a proper cam be selected."
you cant just say OH 115LSA or higher is automatically best.depends on your setup.that said my LSA on my custom cam is 115
how many people are gonna go have a custom cam ground, overall an lsa on the higher end will work better. granted the higer boost and quick spool you are trying to achieve will prolly require a wider lsa. and yea i knw that everything has to be matched and if it were a max effort...to a T.
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i wouldnt go getting all nasty, i agree and ive obviously said a wider LSA is better overall for most,thats why u dont see many if any turbo cars running around on a 110LSA. And why the hell not get a custom cam,a brand new cam from most sponsors is around $400 from what ive seen,good companies like MTI etc.....i paid $330 for a brand new custom cam to my specs from Cam Motion i believe through HPE.....so i paid less to get the exact cam for my combo....so why wouldnt i get a custom cam again??
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i wouldnt go getting all nasty, i agree and ive obviously said a wider LSA is better overall for most,thats why u dont see many if any turbo cars running around on a 110LSA. And why the hell not get a custom cam,a brand new cam from most sponsors is around $400 from what ive seen,good companies like MTI etc.....i paid $330 for a brand new custom cam to my specs from Cam Motion i believe through HPE.....so i paid less to get the exact cam for my combo....so why wouldnt i get a custom cam again??
dude chill, i wasnt, i was jus makeing a statement..yeesh. most people wont spend the time to sit down and figure out what works best. if your into getting everything out of it and are more serious about what youre doing then yea, the times gonna be spent getting the best for the motor. sorry if it sounded..err..read nasty but thats not how it sounded to me. do you see what im sayin? again it comes to matching everything, and the average joe racecar wont do it. so chill out and have a beer..
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i just get a tad annoyed when people dont take the time with something like this.....maybe u werent aware but Tond SS 's genius friend just grenaded his motor because he was pushing like 8-9#s no intercooling on a 12:1 A/F....incompetance is my pet peeve.Just cause u have the money to do something doesnt mean u deserve to, when theres people that dont have all kinds of money to waste that plan everything out.a generic 224/224 116 cam would do ok in a turbo car,could there be a better cam?of course but most dont take the time to plot things out.and i apoligize if i misunderstood what u were saying.Im not a fan of beer but if u got a bottle of Malibu run im game
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i'm running a 220/238 530/595 on a 115LSA for my 370TT....talk about nasty!
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Don't know if it is sold yet or not, but Mightymouse was selling his Turbo cam. Check it out. If you talk to him, tell him Andy sent you his way. He's a good guy.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/392838-my-turbo-cam-sale.html

Good luck!

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Well,The best thing I can think of is to suggest that Tond speak to some of the forum vendors.You did ask about the Z06 cam--the 2002 cam is pretty nice with forced induction--Theres a guy in GM high tech mag running in the 9's with one--I've been running it with the Magcharge for about 3 years.There are cams that make more power but one thing is for sure,you can do alot worse than a 02-up z06 cam.ddnspider--that quote-just because you have the money to do something doesnt mean you deserve to---is the truest **** and funny as hell!--Good luck with your cam bro--if the perfect cam existed there wouldnt be variable valve timing.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i just get a tad annoyed when people dont take the time with something like this.....maybe u werent aware but Tond SS 's genius friend just grenaded his motor because he was pushing like 8-9#s no intercooling on a 12:1 A/F....incompetance is my pet peeve.Just cause u have the money to do something doesnt mean u deserve to, when theres people that dont have all kinds of money to waste that plan everything out.a generic 224/224 116 cam would do ok in a turbo car,could there be a better cam?of course but most dont take the time to plot things out.and i apoligize if i misunderstood what u were saying.Im not a fan of beer but if u got a bottle of Malibu run im game
i hate beer, bacardi superior or a good crown and coke.
np man, its all good
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I trust Lingenfelter.... they have been doing Turbo cars for longer than just about anybody. I like my LPE GT-7
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You have to pick a cam based on your goals, shift points, power level, and need to pass emissions.
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dont care about emissions my goal is about 6500 rpms.... i would like some lope to it however if i have to go with the zo6 cam i will, i will miss the cool sounding lope! HP hmm probly around like 600 on 8 pounds of boost with meth on stock motor with lq9s (i know motor is on borrowed time) that is why im already saving for my 408 or new firehawk motor... i dont want a cam that will work for both 408 and 346...just for the 346 for the time being.......i am only purchasing the racetronix kit for fuel for right now!

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i dont see you making 600rwhp @ only 8#'s with a Z06 cam,and a firehawk motor is basically just another 346,nothings forged or anything.For a stock motor you need to stick to a lil over 500rwhp cause you still have the old style rod bolts i believe,so your more prone to breaking something.I think they changed them for 2001
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breaking the rod bolts is more an issue of rpm than power.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i dont see you making 600rwhp @ only 8#'s
Yeah, thats a stretch IMO. I would think closer to 500-520rwhp.


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