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11-08-2005, 06:17 AM
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magic stick guys in please just recieved the TSP MS3 today and waiting to install it tomorrow morning
and i want to degree it on a fastway
so where should i put the degree pointer ,, i want it to be for a street racing with mid/high rpm range i don`t care for the low rpm range 
just to let you know ,, i have a cloyes timing chain ,, hex-a-just
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and i want to degree it on a fastway
so where should i put the degree pointer ,, i want it to be for a street racing with mid/high rpm range i don`t care for the low rpm range just to let you know ,, i have a cloyes timing chain ,, hex-a-just
thanks
11-08-2005, 11:07 PM
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my 98 put down 380rwhp w/ the MS3........i havent seen anyone break 400rwhp w/ a MS3 and a 98 motor, that is cam only w/ bolt ons. I'm sure it can be done but its gonna take a really good tune and a strong factory car. Good luck with everything, and i hope you like this cam as much as i do.
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11-08-2005, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
That's a big damn lift cam for stock cubes, but you already bought it so no use in beating a dead horse. One more vote for installing straight up. No way you wanna advance that cam --> Hello broken valves.
11-08-2005, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oodahss
my 98 put down 380rwhp w/ the MS3........i havent seen anyone break 400rwhp w/ a MS3 and a 98 motor, that is cam only w/ bolt ons. I'm sure it can be done but its gonna take a really good tune and a strong factory car. Good luck with everything, and i hope you like this cam as much as i do.
do u think i`ll get the same numbers?? as what u have said?
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11-08-2005, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by oodahss
well.....looks like you will be the first i've seen to do it. i def. think you will get another 15hp out of the MS3. congrats.......on making me jealous 
my cars is running the 385 with c5 wheels 18*17 even with dirty air filter i have to clean it before the next tune
11-09-2005, 12:39 AM
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OK. I can see you like to live on the edge. Do what you want. If you retard it you gonna tear something all to hell. Advancing it will probably give you more clearance not less like was mentioned. The valve that gets closest is the exhaust valve because its actually opening while the piston is coming up and stays open as the piston reaches TDC so it can get all of the exhaust out.
That cam is gonna pull like a raped ape in the high rpms'. Most of these cams from the sponsors are already ground in ways that compliment the LS1. The MS3 is a steetable cam but its still a race max effort cam. The guess work has been taken out for you. Im leaning heavily toward this cam and I race my car a good bit. Im not even thinking the thoughts that you are about advancing or retarding it.
That cam is gonna pull like a raped ape in the high rpms'. Most of these cams from the sponsors are already ground in ways that compliment the LS1. The MS3 is a steetable cam but its still a race max effort cam. The guess work has been taken out for you. Im leaning heavily toward this cam and I race my car a good bit. Im not even thinking the thoughts that you are about advancing or retarding it.
11-09-2005, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
OK. I can see you like to live on the edge. Do what you want. If you retard it you gonna tear something all to hell. Advancing it will probably give you more clearance not less like was mentioned. The valve that gets closest is the exhaust valve because its actually opening while the piston is coming up and stays open as the piston reaches TDC so it can get all of the exhaust out.
That cam is gonna pull like a raped ape in the high rpms'. Most of these cams from the sponsors are already ground in ways that compliment the LS1. The MS3 is a steetable cam but its still a race max effort cam. The guess work has been taken out for you. Im leaning heavily toward this cam and I race my car a good bit. Im not even thinking the thoughts that you are about advancing or retarding it.
That cam is gonna pull like a raped ape in the high rpms'. Most of these cams from the sponsors are already ground in ways that compliment the LS1. The MS3 is a steetable cam but its still a race max effort cam. The guess work has been taken out for you. Im leaning heavily toward this cam and I race my car a good bit. Im not even thinking the thoughts that you are about advancing or retarding it.
i hope u understand what is my thoughts
11-09-2005, 01:43 AM
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I guess I dont underatand.
What I do understand is that degreeing a cam is not advancing or retading it. It just makes sure the cam is ground right and installed right.
If you want to degree it then degree it. All Im saying is that the cam has been ground to clear the pistons when its installed straight up or on 0 as you put it.
What I do understand is that degreeing a cam is not advancing or retading it. It just makes sure the cam is ground right and installed right.
If you want to degree it then degree it. All Im saying is that the cam has been ground to clear the pistons when its installed straight up or on 0 as you put it.
11-09-2005, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
I guess I dont underatand.
What I do understand is that degreeing a cam is not advancing or retading it. It just makes sure the cam is ground right and installed right.
If you want to degree it then degree it. All Im saying is that the cam has been ground to clear the pistons when its installed straight up or on 0 as you put it.
What I do understand is that degreeing a cam is not advancing or retading it. It just makes sure the cam is ground right and installed right.
If you want to degree it then degree it. All Im saying is that the cam has been ground to clear the pistons when its installed straight up or on 0 as you put it.
thanks dude
11-09-2005, 01:05 PM
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My understanding of it was you degree your cam for the sole purpose of making sure it's the right cam you ordered. That the CNC machine didnt fudge it up, or whoever sold it to you used didnt jip you.