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Old 11-08-2005, 06:30 PM
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ok, i'm looking for a replacement for my bone stock 6.0L that I can strap my whipple to. This is on the big *** truck in my sig. My daily driver. I'm hoping to make 550-600rwhp when it's all said and done. I'm hoping for 11's in the 1/4mile. That being said, I want to spend as little as possible of course. I'm looking at 2 motors. 1) 402 short block from scoggin dickey, then add heads, cam, etc. 2) 408 from ffhp with ETperformance heads.

I plan to run the whipple on either motor with about 10-15lbs of boost. I don't want to spend more than $7000 for the motor. Installation and tuning has already been worked out. What do you guys think? Any other suggestions are welcome.
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you'll need to feed that motor alot of fuel..... dont forget about that...

a good fuel system is about 1500$
injectors
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braided hose
sumped tank
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
you'll need to feed that motor alot of fuel..... dont forget about that...

a good fuel system is about 1500$
injectors
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braided hose
sumped tank
yeah, i heard that. I was quoted $2000 for the fuel system. yikes.
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will my whipple be any good to use on a 408? I was told it won't be able to do much. so that makes me think i should go with a built (forged) 6.0 setup instead. ???
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for 600 rwhp...
and a large truck

id look at a 408 with a turbo that would hit boost early... say 2000-2500 .... thats mucho weight to move around so you need alot of down low power...

or just spin the crap outa that maggie
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you dont really need a forged motor...W2W tested that on an otherwise stock LQ9 with springs and a few lil things and a fuel system they could safely make 600hp without the motor having a problem.Get a cam and maybe some heads and the fuel setup right and throw the whipple on and go have fun.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
you dont really need a forged motor...W2W tested that on an otherwise stock LQ9 with springs and a few lil things and a fuel system they could safely make 600hp without the motor having a problem.Get a cam and maybe some heads and the fuel setup right and throw the whipple on and go have fun.
Would you like to tell that to the owner of a 5.3 that has a blown out piston in his truck at my shop The truck only pushed 360hp or so and the tuning was at 11-1 A/F. Some piston's just crap the bed early It's a 50/50 shot hoping the stock piston's/stock rod bolt's will hold
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Originally Posted by DanaliHD
will my whipple be any good to use on a 408? I was told it won't be able to do much. so that makes me think i should go with a built (forged) 6.0 setup instead. ???
The Whipple is the limiting factor of the setup. Stay away from peak #'s and you will be happy.It's all about the average power(low/mid/high).I would much rather have a 600hp 408 than a 600hp 6.0 .The 408 will make alot more midrange power which a heavy *** truck needs
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
The Whipple is the limiting factor of the setup. Stay away from peak #'s and you will be happy.It's all about the average power(low/mid/high).I would much rather have a 600hp 408 than a 600hp 6.0 .The 408 will make alot more midrange power which a heavy *** truck needs
so should i go with a 408 from whoever, fuel system from whoever, leave the whipple on it, and have you tune it? I'm trying to stay away from $10,000 but it seems impossible. The 402sb from scoggin sounds like a good deal but so does the ffhp 408. HELP ME SLOWHAWK, YOUR MY ONLY HOPE. lol, but seriously, point me in the right direction.
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W2W made ~550 on a 4.8 with just 8psi on a turbo setup with only 42# injectors and a fuel pressure of 80.If you want insurance why not just get pistons and ARP rod and head bolts or head studs and some heads and a cam.itll save u quite a bit of money,itll make alot of power and itll be stronger.
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well, that's a thought. The problem is, this is my daily driver. I'd have to buy a used 6.0 longblock or something and have it rebuilt then swap it into my truck. I'm trying to figure out which way makes the most sense, financially and otherwise. I know a 408 will make the most power but it is also the most expensive option. Then again, who's to say what kind of labor would go into just doing pistons, rods, cam, heads, bolts etc.

I'm leaning toward the FFHP setup. I've gotten other quotes on complete 408's and their's is close to the best price, plus Brad seems like a cool guy. I know there are bigger names out there but they are all much more expensive.

What if I bought the 402 shortblock from SDPC, WCCH heads, comp cam, arp head studs, used my stock rockers, pans, covers, manifold, tb, etc? Anyone have thoughts on that setup?

$3500 + 1300 + 350 + 250 + labor to put it all together and install it. I should be around $6000 right? before the fuel system upgrade if one is even needed
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someone talk me out of the SDPC 402 and WCCH heads. I'll be well within my price limit. seriously, tell why NOT to do this.
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Save yourself some Cash on the fuel setup
The truck rails are huge and hold lots of fuel
A simple Double pump intank setup will be enough to help feed 700rwhp
Parish and myself have them parish has seen 1000rwhp with it

On the motor I think i know someone who has somthing for sale..
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Originally Posted by GMC SKI
Save yourself some Cash on the fuel setup
The truck rails are huge and hold lots of fuel
A simple Double pump intank setup will be enough to help feed 700rwhp
Parish and myself have them parish has seen 1000rwhp with it

On the motor I think i know someone who has somthing for sale..

It's all about the Benjamins.


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