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Old 11-18-2005, 07:58 PM
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I've got a dyno run scheduled for tomorrow morning around 11:00. I don;t have a bottle heater (I usually don't need one, more worried about high pressure than low pressure 8 months out of the year)......and it should be nice, around 80, here in SoCal tomorrow.....so it's not like it's gonna be real low pressure.

But I drove the car to work today.....and in the morning it was only around 700 psi.......and it took sitting in the sun until around 2:00 to get pressure up to 900. So.....here's my stupid idea.......

I've got this nice hot tub just sitting here......water temp is always at 100.....what if I put my bottle up to the valve in the hot tub an hour or so before I leave for the dyno????? I'm thinking that's just hair-brained ghetto enough that it just might work..... Whatcha think? Should I be laughed off this board????
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that will work just fine plenty of people use hot water baths to pre heat bottles

but just so ya know bottle heaters don't cost that much!

infact we are running a special see here

http://nitrousdirect.com/heaterspecial.html
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Originally Posted by NitrousDirect
that will work just fine plenty of people use hot water baths to pre heat bottles

but just so ya know bottle heaters don't cost that much!

infact we are running a special see here

http://nitrousdirect.com/heaterspecial.html
Yeah.....I know.....but I'm just having a hard time justifying even $100 when 90% of the time I drive my car I'm more worried about my pressure being about 1200 instead of below 800.....

I'm seriously thinking about the NX Fire and Ice though.....almost bought one last week but chickened out since I can't find a single person that's actually used one. Do you sell 'em? Any ideas as to their effectiveness in cooling?
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Watch your pressure in the tub. I have 95* thermastats on my heater and that is 1150psi, so 100* maybe 1200psi or more. Just a caution on getting it to your running pressure. With a dry set-up a higher pressure is just like up sizing your jets, more power, so no real problem. It doesn't change a/f like a wet kit would.
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Thanks Robert.....any idea how long I should leave it in the hot tub?

And just exactly what is the desired PSI on a 5177 kit? The NOS recommendation is 850 IIRC.....but it seems everyone runs higher than that...
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Here ya go! Try this for a guide

http://nitrousdirect.com/bottlepressureguide.html

As for PSI we like 950
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Originally Posted by NitrousDirect
Here ya go! Try this for a guide

http://nitrousdirect.com/bottlepressureguide.html

As for PSI we like 950
Thanks....very helpful!

But not to be a dick or anything......just a bit confused.....if you guys prefer 950 why does your chart imply 1070 as desired???
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Oh it's just a rough guide to show what temps reflect what bottle pressure.. ya can't do every single degree lol
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Cool.......thanks!
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If I were you, I would get an electric gauge in the cockpit and use a heater. Also, NX's heater automatically shuts off at a set PSI level.
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Actually, the NOS heater or the Dyno Tune heater is a better purchase (not sure whet watt Nitrous Direct is) because they are 300watt heaters, compared to NX's 240watt. This means a 300watt heater will heat bottle in 80% of the time it takes a NX heater.

Just watch the pressure in the tub (bottle gauge).
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LMAO, I just put my bottle in the floor on the way to the track yesterday. Let the heat blow on it for about an hour. Worked great! I left the bottle in the garage and it was a bit cold, usually it's in the house, and the pressure is really close to where I want it to be. But hey, you gotta do what works for the given time and situation.....
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
LMAO, I just put my bottle in the floor on the way to the track yesterday. Let the heat blow on it for about an hour. Worked great! I left the bottle in the garage and it was a bit cold, usually it's in the house, and the pressure is really close to where I want it to be. But hey, you gotta do what works for the given time and situation.....
Yeah.....I'm not sure I want to be driving around with my heater on here though.....

The hot tub worked great......had 1100 psi when I put it in the car....and then it was about 80 outside most of the day so it pretty much maintained that pressure even almost 3 hours later when I finally got on the dyno
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Originally Posted by X-ZZ4
Yeah.....I'm not sure I want to be driving around with my heater on here though.....

The hot tub worked great......had 1100 psi when I put it in the car....and then it was about 80 outside most of the day so it pretty much maintained that pressure even almost 3 hours later when I finally got on the dyno
That's cool man. It was only in the upper 50s lower 60s here, and I just drove with the windows down
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You can simply run some hot water over the bottle at the dyno facilitys rest room. Be careful though the pressure will jump up very fast.

The fire and Ice is a awesome part. Its a little pricey due to all the feature. The 860 heater is also a sweet heater. We sell many NX heaters and I run one of there regular heaters on my car and I do not see a problem with it taken long to heat up.
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
You can simply run some hot water over the bottle at the dyno facilitys rest room. Be careful though the pressure will jump up very fast.

The fire and Ice is a awesome part. Its a little pricey due to all the feature. The 860 heater is also a sweet heater. We sell many NX heaters and I run one of there regular heaters on my car and I do not see a problem with it taken long to heat up.
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I also run a regular NX heater, with 95* thermastats and it is slower than the 300watters, but works fine and is a quality product. In the NW heating quicker is probably more of an issue than it is down south, so... I want to run the Fire and Ice next year, for more consistant 1/4 ET's over any other heater on the market.
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I see what you are saying, Our new Nitrous Outlet bottle heater 300 watts.But I still do not see there being much difference over the 240 watt. I also here people not liking the 300 watts because of the larger amperage draw. These are mostly race guys and not street guys though. I guess you cant please them all.LOL

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NX with a 300 watter, that's good to know.
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No you mis read the post. We are going to build a new Nitrous Oultet heater kit. This way we will have the NX,The Fire and Ice, 860 performance and our New heater...
I will not give any details but I will say our heater desighn is different from the others...
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