Street Racing & Kill Stories - 00' Trans am vs. 01 z06




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RAIDER
11-27-2005, 11:52 PM
Well when I was leaving mcdonalds today, a saw a black z06 pulling out of a parking lot. I was stuck at the light so i decided to give it a rev, so he could wait and maybe have some fun.
SO I caught him up and asked him what he had done to his vette. He said it was bone stock, I was excited cause I hadn't raced a stock zo6 yet and wanted to see how I would fair against one. I beat a catback 00 c5 by about 2 car lengths before, but hadn't raced a z06. My car has gmmg catback, w/ cutout after ipipe, and a whisper lid.
We hit it off at about 35 the first time, but since he didn't know the three honk method he didn't exactly start at the same time, none the less we stayed pretty much even the whole time, till about 80.
After explaining the three honks we kicked it off at about 20, we went back and forth, getting barely a nose on each other till 100. We did it again and were about dead tied again the whole time.
Overall it was a fun experience I thought he would of had me, but it turned out to be some good races.


02ws602wrx
11-28-2005, 01:10 AM
very nice job. I raced a z06 and he had me at the end of the 1/4 we went from a dead stop and then a few months later I came back after my converter and had him but he came hard at the end if we would have went a little bit longer he would have passed me.

Quik Z06
11-28-2005, 01:52 AM
Nice runs...Weve actually raced a couple SS's and can pull pretty easy on them froma roll. We have a B&B exhaust (no mufflers) and thats it, but its an 02.


ls1wannabe
11-28-2005, 03:27 PM
all i have to say is wieght and power i has more of both and it should have walked you unless he could not drive.

Matt SS
12-01-2005, 08:40 AM
all i have to say is wieght and power i has more of both and it should have walked you unless he could not drive.


I agree, what do you trap at??

Bc a stock 01 Z06 SHOULD trap anywhere between 113-115.

redsscamaroboy
12-01-2005, 11:44 AM
So if you raced a SS and won then,they are all pretty easy to pull from???

raced a couple SS's and can pull pretty easy on them froma roll

So by saying,"i raced an 02 ZO6 and won" i should not worry about any of them?


I could be splitting hairs,but from your post that is what stood out to me.
Maybe it's because i have an SS,who knows.

Dave

dannyz
12-01-2005, 01:41 PM
I have to wonder on this one. Maybe you did hold your own, but with the mods you say you have, it dosn't add up. If I recall the zo6 is like a low 12 second ride and I'm thinking you are probably low 13's.
No offense, but this stretch's the imagination.

SLPSS99
12-01-2005, 02:09 PM
Hmmm I don't think that guy could drive to well Because like the others said he should be trapping 113-115 in a stock Z06. I have almost all the bolt ons and some weight out and I race with my buddies dad's 02' Zo6 and we are very close and my current best ET is 12.10 @ 114.

Dan

ActionJack
12-01-2005, 02:40 PM
Hmmm I don't think that guy could drive to well Because like the others said he should be trapping 113-115 in a stock Z06. I have almost all the bolt ons and some weight out and I race with my buddies dad's 02' Zo6 and we are very close and my current best ET is 12.10 @ 114.

Dan


The original post is for a 2001 Z06 and not the 2002 Z06. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the engine changed from 01 to 02.

Also, what does a stock 2001 Z06 do in the quarter since 2002 stats for a Z06 really do not matter in this case.



Jack

MGorman
12-01-2005, 03:24 PM
The original post is for a 2001 Z06 and not the 2002 Z06. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the engine changed from 01 to 02.

Also, what does a stock 2001 Z06 do in the quarter since 2002 stats for a Z06 really do not matter in this case.



Jack
The 01 Z06 has 20 fewer horsepower than the 02.

98TADRIVER
12-01-2005, 03:26 PM
Here, this will solve your probs. a link to stock 1/4 mile times!! 0-60 1/4 mile times factory stock vehicles (http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html)

98TADRIVER
12-01-2005, 03:27 PM
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
2002 Chevrolet Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo) 1.97 9.24
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. '02)
2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 3.5 11.5 (MT Oct '05)

98TADRIVER
12-01-2005, 03:30 PM
500x 150 isnt big enough!!!

PewterWSSicc
12-01-2005, 08:06 PM
I believe you, and i have posted on this subject myself also. My car with the mods in my sig pulled a little bit while racing a ZO6 one time. Im not gonna lie and say i expected to, or that i can beat ZO6's because i got lucky one time. I am more than aware of what a ZO6 is capable of. But nevertheless on this night, in this city, the ZO6 was pulled on by a trans am. All I can say is maybe he was a sucky driver, had pounds of stereo equipment, TC may have still been on, i dont know. The fact is that i pulled on him(ever so slightly)and that is what happened. There was a cop car up the street from us driving our way and we noticed him when i was at about 80 and we shut down and parted. Met back up with him later when we got back on the main road and all he said was your car is really fast. Call BS all you want, it happened. So good kill to you and keep them coming.

BriancWS6
12-01-2005, 08:54 PM
Hey, the way I look at it is like this...good driving there man. But the reality isn't that a ZO6 "should" be faster than your car, or mine, or any other bolt on ls1s, but the fact is that it "IS" faster....just not with that driver, on that nite. You simply out drove the guy...great job! I have done this type of thing myself in the past...if you can beat the driver most of the time you will beat the car. That's my .02 :)

RAIDER
12-02-2005, 01:45 AM
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0

Thanks guys for backing me up on this, I didn't know what they ran in the quarter, but i knew what I did and what the outcome was. It happened believe it or not, why would I come on here and make up some bullshit story to impress a bunch of guys I don't know? If that's how you roll, i feel sorry for you. Too all the non believers :flipeye: LIke brian said maybe it was supposed to beat me, but it didn't on this night :judge:

michael

2.73 Vette
12-02-2005, 05:18 AM
4.6 AND 13.0 ARE THE SLOWEST NUMBERS YOU CAN POSSIBLY FIND FOR A 2001 Z06....

That C5 coupe ran a 13.1 and 4.8 but the 01 Z06 has 35 more HP and 150 pounds less weight and only pulled a 13.0...and 4.6?????

The normal range for a 2001 Z06 in all the mags and by real drivers is 12.6-12.8 and 4.3-4.4 0-60 at around 112-114 mph...

A 2002 z06 is 2 tenths and 2 miles per hour faster through the 1/4 mile...

You out drove him and congradulations on that. All the odds were stacked against you and you pulled it off.

Must of been a nice adrenaline rush when you pulled him.

Ryan02SS
12-02-2005, 09:06 AM
I believe you as anything can happen on the street. I also will say the owner was probably not driving the car to it's potential. A bone stock Z of any year will pull hard on a lid catback LS1 Fbody when driven right. I've met one Z06 owner who would not rev his motor over 5500rpms as he claimed it would hurt the bearings!!!!!!

BLKWS.6
12-02-2005, 09:28 AM
PFffft....The one day he decides to REALLY punch it he's going to snap all his rings :)

RAIDER
12-02-2005, 02:40 PM
I don't know what i run in the 1/4 mile, cause there's not one too close to me. I did run a 1/8 track and trapped 87 mph. My e.t. wasnt too great, best of 8.3, my first time at the track, but what threw me off was it was also my first time with dr's cause I had just barely got them and couldn't launch right for shit. Anyway, maybe someone can help translate this into a 1/4 time?

bad95killer
12-02-2005, 06:01 PM
I don't know what i run in the 1/4 mile, cause there's not one too close to me. I did run a 1/8 track and trapped 87 mph. My e.t. wasnt too great, best of 8.3, my first time at the track, but what threw me off was it was also my first time with dr's cause I had just barely got them and couldn't launch right for shit. Anyway, maybe someone can help translate this into a 1/4 time?

Since we are discussing about an '01 year definitely your MPH put you in a Stock Z06 territory at 1/8mile sign :devil:

i've seen '01 Bone stock Z06 running in the heat of summer !!

1/8 8.369
MPH 88.61

so it's possible man & nice kill though :)

peace

BriancWS6
12-03-2005, 12:41 AM
I don't know what i run in the 1/4 mile, cause there's not one too close to me. I did run a 1/8 track and trapped 87 mph. My e.t. wasnt too great, best of 8.3, my first time at the track, but what threw me off was it was also my first time with dr's cause I had just barely got them and couldn't launch right for shit. Anyway, maybe someone can help translate this into a 1/4 time?
I can help you out on that man....

I run 12.8s at 111 in my car with 2.0ish 60fts. I run the 1/8th in the 8.3s as well. So there ya go man....should be pretty close.

RAIDER
12-03-2005, 01:19 AM
Thanks, I like those numbers, now we just have to get our 60' times down. :bang: Also what kind of shot are you on 11.8's just when I need it sounds good.

Quik Z06
12-03-2005, 04:18 AM
So if you raced a SS and won then,they are all pretty easy to pull from???



So by saying,"i raced an 02 ZO6 and won" i should not worry about any of them?


I could be splitting hairs,but from your post that is what stood out to me.
Maybe it's because i have an SS,who knows.

Dave

Man you guys like to twist things dont you? ALL im saying is Ive raced a couple and beat them, im not saying I would beat all of them, hell we lost to a SC'd one, big deal. My point was Z06 vs SS, WS6 etc the Z06 should pull assuming they can drive, thats all I meant to say. Lol, glad I didnt mention my encounter with one in the Evo we would really be :engarde:

BriancWS6
12-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Thanks, I like those numbers, now we just have to get our 60' times down. :bang: Also what kind of shot are you on 11.8's just when I need it sounds good.
Yeah I know..the 60ft is where it's at. I will be mouning the Nittos up that I had on my previous TA this spring, and installing a Textralia clutch setup. I am looking for some 60s in the 1.8s on the ole 10 bolt :drive:

I am running the NOS 5177 kit with the jets for the 125 shot, I believe they are the .036 ones. It came out to about a 100rwhp 155rwtq gain though :hail:

redsscamaroboy
12-03-2005, 08:09 PM
Man you guys like to twist things dont you? ALL im saying is Ive raced a couple and beat them, im not saying I would beat all of them, hell we lost to a SC'd one, big deal. My point was Z06 vs SS, WS6 etc the Z06 should pull assuming they can drive, thats all I meant to say. Lol, glad I didnt mention my encounter with one in the Evo we would really be :engarde:
I don't think i twisted anything. You said you pull pretty easy from SS's.
If it's a street race does that mean everyone is stock?
My point is my SS has whooped a ZO6,i say congrats to you for beating a few SS's though.
Pretty sure you would not pull from ALL Camaro SS's,sorry a little touchy this week.
No offense meant,just can't say i agree with your statement(s).

Anything happens on the streets,has been proven time and time again.

WS-Sick
12-06-2005, 07:26 PM
That site that was posted is crap....It lists pretty much the worst times that people get due to bad driving...

Black_Bird
12-06-2005, 08:27 PM
8.3 in the 1/8th.....equals out to about 12.86 in the 1/4th if it holds through the whole way, this is with the bad 60 ft. too......

Chrisrokc
12-07-2005, 02:15 AM
Havent had many problems with bolt on f-bodys in my z06. I know a guy that has all the bolts on, gears, stall, tune, ect. and I beat on him pretty good from a dig or stop. Last time we race I had flip flops on, we all know what a bitch those are to drive in, and I pulled out 2 cars on him from a dig.

I think it all depends. The most important factor in a Z06 is the driver. Nailing the launch and the 1-2 shift is what will get you good numbers in a Z06. Some guys can't do that very well.

redsscamaroboy
12-07-2005, 11:24 AM
Havent had many problems with bolt on f-bodys in my z06. I know a guy that has all the bolts on, gears, stall, tune, ect. and I beat on him pretty good from a dig or stop. Last time we race I had flip flops on, we all know what a bitch those are to drive in, and I pulled out 2 cars on him from a dig.

I know of a few bolt-on cars that easily run low 11's with a good tire.
Curious to see what your car runs ,i agree with a ZO6 the power to weight ratio is there,but,I think that a bolt on (especially stalled) LS1 would give it much troubles from a dig.Just my opinion.

Congrats on the win,by the way.

My set-up is only Headers,cat-back,lid and a stall . And i run 7.8x's with a 1.61.
My point is i only have a few bolt-ons and NO WHERE near ALL bolt-ons or any weight reduction.

I look forward to runs with ZO6's ,i put that car out there as my goal. Ya know what i mean? Have only raced a few though,but never had to spray to win(YET),lol.

Dave

Chrisrokc
12-07-2005, 12:43 PM
I havent really got to the track with mine yet. But I did put down 364rwhp stock, now I have a Halltech Trap Intake and HPtuners. So I'm guessing I'm right at 380rwhp.

Good tires and a 6 speed can whip up on a stalled out car any day of the week if you got a good driver ;-)

98Z28MASS
12-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Nice kill, but honestly it seems nowadays everyone thinks that a higher hp car will automatically win no matter what, the driver doesnt come into play...It gets so old hearing people quote mag times or that most z06's or any other car run XXX @ XXX mph after someone posts a kill. Its not like he posted that he beat a viper or new c6 z06 or a lambo or something outrageous, he said he ran pretty much even with an 01 z06, which usually dyno lower than the 02-04 c5 z06's. A win is a win, no matter if it was due to traction, bad driver, etc...I understand there are some exceptions when its a car that has significantly more HP and it shouldnt have been a contest but it gets so old hearing how a race couldnt have happened how it did because one car has slightly more hp and is a little lighter....With EVERYTHING being equal drivers/traction/etc yea the z06 should win but it doesnt happen like that in the real world.

Chrisrokc
12-07-2005, 01:48 PM
I bet his traction control system could have been still on. In the cold when traction is a bitch if you have that thing on it is horribleeee! Just another thought

Y2kHawk05
12-07-2005, 01:58 PM
Nice runs and keep it up. Street racing is just that: street racing. I swear I drive better on the street than ever at the track. I see some 60 foot times that I have beaten and they have a better 1/4 trap time. Most of the time I wonder who's really telling the truth.

02 Camaro SS
12-07-2005, 03:39 PM
Driving is obviously a huge part of racing. Regardless of how much power either car had, he was able to run neck and neck with a Z06.
Good job.

redsscamaroboy
12-08-2005, 01:26 AM
Good tires and a 6 speed can whip up on a stalled out car any day of the week if you got a good driver ;-)

That's right .... You keep telling yourself that! :thumbsdow :whip:

That's good stuff right there.

Chrisrokc
12-08-2005, 01:39 AM
That's right .... You keep telling yourself that! :thumbsdow :whip:

That's good stuff right there.

I came from a built auto in my f-body with over 550rwhp to this 380rwhp lightweight z06 with a 6 speed. I prefer the z06 all the way around, f-body was way faster in a straight line though.

Now, yes, at the track your average auto car driver will have more consistant times. Where as your average stick driver will not. Now a good stick driver can have consistant times. Stock vs stock, stick cars will be faster. A stick car will only be as fast as the driver can drive it in the long run. Thats why alot of people swap over to auto's when they get into the low 10's, 9's, 8's. Just too hard to drive to get the right numbers.

Now your saying I can keep telling my self that. I will take my z06 with 380rwhp with a CCW Drag Pak and proper supporting output shafts over a stalled, 400hp f-body any day of the week in a straight line.

redsscamaroboy
12-08-2005, 09:50 AM
I do agree with a lot of what your saying,and it is personal preferance(sp).
When i had my Saleen,it was a M5 with a Centerforce clutch and gears .
That was a blast to drag/drive and run on the road courses with.
But even with slicks,(this car) got a best of a 1.71 60ft (E/T streets).


Now my SS with a PT4000 Yank convertor with only Nitto's pulls 1.61-1.63 60 fts with stock internals full weight all day every day type thing. Lifts a tire out of the hole and pulls some fairly good air on a 150 shot on it's way to 1.5's.
The shift extension of a good stall is perfect for keeping things really rolling .

Your ZO6 with a good driver(You) at the track verses my SS with good tires. I don't think you will be whipping,my stalled out car on any day of the week.
Now i don't put out ZO6 horse power on motor,and push way more than ZO6 power on the bottle so a mph race is not going to happen. Can't run ZO6 mph all motor and spraying is not a fair compairison either. BUT, Looking at E/T,that's where you gotta love a good stalled out car.

Dropped over 1 second of stock times with exhaust and a convertor,what can a M6 do to drop 1 second without Nitrous?

Again i LOVE driving a manual,at times i would like to have a M6 LS1(6).
But a Bolt-on A4 with a good tire and stall will give a ZO6 a good run,not the New 06 but you knew that anyway,cause your a smart guy.

I would take your ZO6 for a quality all around car too over any F-body,so don't get me wrong there. Love the ZO6,just can't afford one :)
Just talking about stalled out F-bodies here.

Dave

redsscamaroboy
12-08-2005, 10:06 AM
I prefer the z06 all the way around, f-body was way faster in a straight line though
Your T/A by your mods list was bolt-ons,no stall listed....

Good tires and a 6 speed can whip up on a stalled out car any day of the week if you got a good driver ;-)

You admitted your T/A was,faster in a straight line...


Havent had many problems with bolt on f-bodys in my z06. I know a guy that has all the bolts on, gears, stall, tune, ect. and I beat on him pretty good from a dig or stop.

Good thing you don't race your old T/A,huh...

Not trying to be a dick,but please pick 1 theme and go with it.

Chrisrokc
12-08-2005, 12:29 PM
Your T/A by your mods list was bolt-ons,no stall listed....



You admitted your T/A was,faster in a straight line...


.

Good thing you don't race your old T/A,huh...

Not trying to be a dick,but please pick 1 theme and go with it.

Alot of stuff wasn't listed in my sig because it is maxed out letter wise.

But yea, I am talking 400rwhp f-body vs 380rwhp Z06..... not 550+rwhp 690rwtq Trans Am.