Vrbas

iTrader: (2)

I would like to know if you are satisfied with ANY brand cam listing these measurements? What kind do you have? Did you have to get new springs? How much - labor? Did you feel a difference? Gains? etc. Thanks guys. I'm looking at getting a new cam setup this upcoming summer and i need to read up on what would be the best so i'd thought i'd ask those who had them. I know there are stickies about this but i'm interested in your personal experience with a new cam.

*EDIT*

Thanks for all the opinions and posts. I really appreciate it.

About how i'm going to drive it. Well, i'm about to start College this upcoming fall and i haven't even taken my car on a 1/4 mile run yet. I haven't really made up my mind if i'm going to be spending alot of the time at the track or more on the street.

One thing is for sure, i want something that i will be able to hold my own against say like a new Vette, POSSIBLY a Z06 (that's after i do the head swap), Cobras (stock to slightly modified), and the new GTO (shouldn't be too hard).

orion565

iTrader: (4)

what about lift?

davered00ss

iTrader: (4)

I have the TR224 on a 112lsa. I like the cam a lot. It is a definite increase in power. I did not seem to lose any low end torque. I have not had time to get it on the dyno yet, so I have no #'s. It has a slight lope. I would have liked more so we left the idel low to reveal more lope sound. we could have tunned it out altogether if we wanted to.

I went with comp 918 springs and titanium retainers, Texas speed hardend 7.4 pushrods. I did the install myself with the help of gman & Slowhawk for tech advice & tunning.

Normal labor rate on a cam is $500- $600.

SSilverSSurfer

iTrader: (8)

i have a 224/227 114lsa.....i know its not a 224/224 but oh well....made good power....went from 298hp baseline ot 368hp on a mustang dynot with full bolt ons and that cam....im switching cams next week to a 236/238 .601/.6054 112lsa....only had this cam 2months and its not enuff...lol bnut the 224/224 is a perfect entry level cam....$1700 for dual springs,HPE cam,retainers, hardened pushrods, new plugs and wires, and a STB

glennhl

I went with the TSP 224R (Comp XER 224) that is 224/224; .581/.581 112LSA. Has a little lope, but not real noticeable unless I open the cutout. I did long tube headers at the same time and got 381 rwhp. I really like the cam, even though I didn't dyno before, I did go from 13.7 at 105mph to 12.73 at 113.8 mph (already had the cutout, but not the headers/cam).

I used Patriot Gold Springs with titanium retainers ($300) plus TSP hardened pushrods ($100) along with a Rollmaster double timing chain set ($100). You can get a good package deal from Texas Speed & Performance, they are great to work with.

As far as labor, it was free, I work cheaply. Took a weekend because I fiddled around with the darn oil pump intake o-ring.

Gold Z

iTrader: (3)

For several years after the LS1 first came out, 1997, the TR 224 224/224 .565"/.565", was the cam against which all others were judged. Almost all of the old timers on the board ran the TR224 at one time or another. I bought my first one in 1999. On a 112 it has a little bit of a lope to it. On a 114 it sounds almost stock. My 98 Z made 365 hp with the cam, midlength headers, a flowmaster muffler, with no tuning. It's a midrange cam that gives you a very noticeable power increase all through the rpm range. I have never heard anyone gripe about its performance in their car. I have heard people gripe that it didn't lope enough. I suspect most of them bought the cam ground on a 114. If you buy the cam you will like it. If you want a little more lope and a little more power, you might consider the LG Motorsports G5, 224/230 .581"/.570" on a 112. Unlike the TR224 it will require tuning but it is also a great cam for power and driveability.

35th SS

iTrader: (2)

have it on the 35th.no dyno #s just track times.918 springs and tr pushrods with a little puny 3000 yank.

silverTA2002

iTrader: (1)

220/224 cam in sig.

Did it at the same time as heads.

Drives like stock below 2k rpms. But, starting at just 2k, it pulls like mad to about 6600 rpm no problem.

Great cam for an M6 car.

I've seen back to back dynos of different cams. A larger cam doesn't start making more power than a 224 until above 5500 rpm.

I'd go bigger for an auto (since below 2k doesn't matter at all), but for an M6 daily driver, it's great.

Definitely tune though. It does wonders for the idle, part throttle, and full throttle acceleration. Not to mention that 6200 rpm shifts are way too low for the cam.

JBsZ06

Hindsights 20/20 so take my opinion for what its worth.

I have a 2001 Z06 and for the year or two I've had the 224/224 .563 114lsa cam in the car with the crane dual valve springs...I've used the car more and more as a daily driver..

The extra 30 odd rwhp is nice...the cam is relatively hidden and very very civilized. The added maintaince is about 300 dollars including labor to swap out the crane dual valve springs every 25K miles with this low lift cam. (just as normal precautionary measure...Probably could go more miles but not worth it. IMHO)

I have about 18K miles on this cam and its certainly a civilized cam for everyday use.

All that said....to be honest my tuner suggested to me to go to a more radical cam...and I was dead set on passing the tailpipe sniffer test that used to be regulation..

Sure enough about 6 months after the cam installation...the state I live in has gone to a pcm plug in emissions test...

That being said and for as much as I like this 224/224 cam? In hindsight I should have gone larger. Just because after about a year? I want more bang as I hit the gas pedal.

Will I change out the cam? No...I'll leave the car as it is...as its more than fast enough. When the time comes? I'll probably just sell my 465 flywheel hp 3100 lb C5 Z06 for a 505 hp C6 Z06 and enjoy the new car.

Do I regret putting in the 224/224 114lsa cam? Not on your life. Its a nice upgrade...yet hindsight to another sports car enthusiast? I'd go to a larger cam or a cam slightly smaller for a supercharger bolt on option later on....

The 224/224 114lsa cam is not enough as it is to keep me from wanting more six months to a year later.

Hope this helps. Like I said..its not a flame to the 224/224 .563 114lsa cam.

Just insight from an owner whose got 18K miles on one.

Take it for what its worth. Good tuners are always right!



2001 ZO6 TTP 224/224 114lsa 396rwhp 380lb/ft tq dual valve spring package, ASP pully , Halltech Tunnel Ram, FLP headers,3.73 Getrag Rear,2004 Z06 shocks,Shaner S2 TB,Hurst

CoronaL

iTrader: (6)

pretty much ditto the above
I have a 2k1 Z06, went with 224/224 114lsa installed at speed inc. I'm making 393 at the wheels. Has some low speed bucking, but I think that is just a poor tune from Speed Inc, as there were others issues I've had with their install such as leaking oil on a 10k mile car, charging me for things I didn't get, a suspected generic not custom tune etc...

When I bought my 2k WS6 this year, and planned mods, I put in a 231/237 TSP cam, and that cam is everything I want in a cam. Now I should say, the cars not running right, but hopefully that will be fixed soon, but the idle on that TSP cam is almost enough right there to justify that cam

sstony

i'm running the comp xe-r 224 on a 112lsa. it makes awesome power thanks to the tune by gomer. i drive it daily and have had no problems when cold or using a/c. i was warned before throwing this cam in, to go big the first time and i'm wishing i would have. i'm strongly considering installing a futral fm13 now which a lot of my friends are running and absolutely love in their daily drivers.

oange ss

iTrader: (50)

my car pulls like stock till about 3500-4000 rpms then it's like someone opened a bottle and just takes off

99blancoSS

iTrader: (115)

Entry level cam? Ok another joker.
Its the perfect street cam. Look at my sig for my numbers. Anything bigger only moves the power band further up the rpm cycle and adds peak hp above 6k rpms. You have to ask yourself what do you intend to do with the car. IF its a 1/4 mile car then you want to go bigger. If its a daily driver then its perfect. You'll get everyone with a bigger cam saying theirs drives fine at low rpms and they do but they dont have the torque or hp at low rpms that a tr224 112 lsa does. If you want send me a pm with your email and I'll send you my dyno graph from the mustang dyno. The KEY to having good success with a cam is the TUNE. I went from 375/375 cam only to 440/420 with heads and a proper dyno tune. You can figure about 35-40 hp from the heads and 20hp from the better tune is what I'm guessing.

99blancoSS

iTrader: (115)

FM13 I out ran an fm13 all the way to 5800 rpms and it never beats a tr224 in torque, only in hp above 6k rpms. You should have bought the tr224 112 lsa. Also a dyno tune, a real dyno tune not just WOT tuning or mail order, makes a world of difference. All an fm13 does is add peak hp after most people would use it on the streets. I have the numbers in front of me and my cam beats the fm13 by almost 20 hp and torque across the board all the way til 5800 rpms. Then the fm 13 catches it and adds 10 more after 6000 rpms. The fm13 never beats the tr224 in torque though.

Heres and example: at 4000 rpms the tr224 has 288hp and 377tq while the fm13 has 270hp and 355tq. Thats 18hp and 22tq less. Both cars with very similar mods and done within a week on the same mustang dyno with very similar weather conditions.

BeachZ

iTrader: (2)

I have a 224/224 114 and it's just about perfect for me. I drive to work in really heavy traffic (LA) and a bigger cam would be more trouble than it's worth. What I like best about it is the available torque at low RPMs. Here's my last dyno, with the converter unlocked.

Magnet

iTrader: (36)

wait a sec....you only have 316/297 with a cam???

BeachZ

iTrader: (2)

That's right, but remember it's an A4 and these numbers are with an unlocked converter.

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

I have the TR224/114, and in combination with my AFR205 heads, and a few bolt ons :-) my car is running like a champ! M6

It definetly kicks in around 2k rpms, and it just keeps climbing hard above that! Below 2k, its a smooth ride, and perfect for daily driving.

00Formula

I have the TSP 224R 112. Very happy with it......great street cam.

Bigrob339

iTrader: (9)

I have a crane cam that was ground to the spec i wanted. Mine is a 224/224 .576/.576 on a 112. I love the cam. I would have to look at the cam card but i believe it said the cam range is 3200rpm to around 6300rpm, but i am not sure since the car is in storage. I like it because it drives like stock but once you get into the rpm range it is a monster. I will eventually do ls6 head and will be hopen for 440 or so rwhp. I would suggest this cam to anyone that is looken for a good street cam. But as mentioned above, if your all about 1/4 then ya you will wanna go bigger. I think the lope sounds good because i have Pacesetter LT, ORY and Borla Adj. with the smallest plate in. any other question on the cam pm me.
peace rob