Northwest Members - So much for my camaro

:mad: like the title says...my brother totaled my 2000 z28 today!!!! FUCKING one day BEFORE i was getting it registered...that just shows you the fucking luck i have...thank god he and the other guy are fine..LOOKS LIKE IM GOING TO HAVE TO FUCKIGN WAIT SOME MORE NOW!!! what a suprise huh? im very fucking mad and im going to get shit faced good bye

Damn I'd say that that sucks, but You cry wolf too often...

Is this one for real? We need Pictures/Video of you kicking his ASS.

lol if i was over 6 foot and 180 lbs i would TRY but im not...so no i wont get my ass handed to me.....it got towed some where i have no idea im just kinda sad right now cause ive been waiting so long to get my hands on this car. my brother described to me that the cars wheels were not aligned, both doors were out of alignment and the front end was completely fucked up and the radiator was some how coming foward away from the engine.. sound bad to you?

If you are 6' and 180 then there should be nothing holding you back from letting all hell loose. Adrenaline does wonders, don't you love your car? But seriously that sucks balls, I'm sorry to hear that. Was it at least insured?

yes im hoping for a miracle...maybe they can repair it...i am guna pray!!!! and yes it was insured....my brother is probably twice my size im 5'9 140 not guna do much against him...and beating him up is out of the question..
and what does that mean "i cry wolf too often?"

Bummer about your car....how about some pics of the damage?

Please let the record show that there is someone on this forum smaller than me. :)

Dude, that really blows about your ride. As far as beating your brother just remember, "God didn't make all men equal, Mr. Colt did."

Take the insurance money and buy another one? Brother pays the difference. Problem solved.

So knowing that you were getting this car, your brother was hot roding it and totaled it? How lame of him... Bummer you didn't get the car, but maybe it's going to work out best for you.

i dont think he was hot rodding it...he was turning like left over a double yellow and someone let him in and i think the person in the other lane hit him....so it was his fault..
but he wasnt hot rodding it around..he feels hella bad about it and im hoping the insurance can cover it..IF it does get repaired could there be damage in the future maybe like a fucked up frame/chasis? i dont know..

This time get a T/A :devil:

Frame/Chasis Damage....You would have to have more details, what mph was the collision at? We need Picuters!

The body shop could tell you if the frame was bent or damaged.

Frame/Chasis Damage....You would have to have more details, what mph was the collision at? We need Picuters!
Sounds like dude hasn't even seen the car yet......I believe he mentioned he doesn't even know where the car was towed to.....:confused:

Sounds like dude hasn't even seen the car yet......I believe he mentioned he doesn't even know where the car was towed to.....:confused:

hmm maybe Chip Foose will call you in a week.
sorry man I hope something good comes from this.

I notice the change in his sig from totalled to

"crashed...think its gettin repaired"


DUDE.....what is the deal on that? Pictures? Info? Anything?

Isn't this the same user that chased another member in bunny slippers for walking by their car?
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Isn't this the same user that chased another member in bunny slippers for walking by their car?
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:nod:

:rotflmao: :lol:

Thought so. See? I don't have senior moments all the time!

Something about swishing around in bunny slippers with a yippy dog...I need to try to dig up that thread. :jest:

yeah those were me and my PINK bunny slippers...insurance called my brother yesterday and the dude said its guna be totaled...so good bye..so after the insurance $$$ and the $$$ for my camaro im going to be looking at some 01-02 SS's or WS6s....i think SS>WS6...and definitly a 6 speed...guess it might work better than i expected??

If you can swing it go for the '02 since it is guaranteed to have a LS6 intake, otherwise it was just the late '01s that had them. And performance wise there really are no differences between the SS and the WS6. When you get right down to it it is just your personal likes and dislikes. Remember, you WILL be modding the car.

lol i WILL be modding the car seeing that i have pacesetter LTs in my room and a TSP y and hooker cat back in my basement :) yeah i was thinking abuot 02 just because it was the last year and its the 35TH ANNIVERSARY OMG!!!! but quick question: does the ws6 have a better suspension package then the SS?

Truthfully, if you want the best handling 4th Gen (IMHO), get an '02 Firehawk with the 1LE suspension package & the DA shocks........I have an 02 WS6 and my buddy has one of those 'Hawks & the difference in handling, even after I upgraded most of my suspension is night & day.......they did those cars right. :nod:

If you can swing it go for the '02 since it is guaranteed to have a LS6 intake, otherwise it was just the late '01s that had them. And performance wise there really are no differences between the SS and the WS6. When you get right down to it it is just your personal likes and dislikes. Remember, you WILL be modding the car.

All '01s are guaranteed to get an LS6 intake too. There's just a smaller chance of an '01 having an LS6 block (only the late '01s had a chance at that) and a larger percentage of '02s had LS6 blocks.

My car is an early '01 (build date of Dec. '00) and it had an LS6 intake. It just has the two piece valve seals (which was odd to find out) like '98-'00s, and it has an LS1 block.

Oh, and if you're gonna do a lot of drag racing, I suggest an A4. I drag race an M6 and its frustrating at times. Ask people how many clutches and rear end configurations I've been through. :bang:

yeah ive read alot of about the rear not being good...im not planning on doing anything crazy to this car, just bolt ons really...and if i do plan on making the car a little more powerful H/C i would buy a STRONG ass rear and a good clutch etc.. that can hold more powere than i need...but i plan on going to the track maybe once or twice in the spring just to hopefully see the number 12.xx hit...and i know not to launch it hard, and i would definitly baby launch it i dont have the money/time to waste money on broken parts i would street race over drag...i think i wana get an SS just cause im in love with them basically..

oh and i wana get a M6 cause i learned how to drive stick on my first car (83 maro) and i love stick theres nothing like it!

yeah ive read alot of about the rear not being good...im not planning on doing anything crazy to this car, just bolt ons really...and if i do plan on making the car a little more powerful H/C i would buy a STRONG ass rear and a good clutch etc.. that can hold more powere than i need...but i plan on going to the track maybe once or twice in the spring just to hopefully see the number 12.xx hit...and i know not to launch it hard, and i would definitly baby launch it i dont have the money/time to waste money on broken parts i would street race over drag...i think i wana get an SS just cause im in love with them basically..
Pay attention here dude........my car is strictly bolt ons....LTs, duals, lid, etc......rear end went tits up in a HUGE way at under 32k miles......that was with a whopping 4 runs down the track, with an M6, not launching hard, street tires, etc. Don't think that babying it will keep the clutch or the rear end in one piece......too many people here and other places with horror stories (cars that never saw the track ever) who will tell you that a stock LS1 or LT1 can and will destroy those parts. As for hitting 12's with bolt ons and baby launches, I wouldn't hold my breath.......you gotta launch pretty good to get a stock or bolt on car into the 12's from the runs/time slips I have seen. More power to ya if you can, but I would be very surprised. Also, don't think that just because you aren't at the track (street racing) that your parts won't fail just as fast. :(

All that said, good luck in your search and enjoy whatever you get.

well...hopefully luck is in my favor

Some people bust them stock, some don't. I am at about 37k and I've made... I dunno, 40 passes, some with drag radials. I've never launched it too hard (well, once, and I thought it was all over when that happened).

Some people bust them stock, some don't. I am at about 37k and I've made... I dunno, 40 passes, some with drag radials. I've never launched it too hard (well, once, and I thought it was all over when that happened).
What was your best time (even with the hard launch)?

Some people bust them stock, some don't. I am at about 37k and I've made... I dunno, 40 passes, some with drag radials. I've never launched it too hard (well, once, and I thought it was all over when that happened).
And is your car a M6 or A4?

I guess I should have put a disclaimer in my post that it isn't written in stone that the rear ends and/or clutches will fail.....but it is a safe bet that trying to reach 12's with those 2 stock pieces will not be a happy situation more often then not.

There is a white one at Gilchrest on S Tacoma way, I will look at it tomarrow and tell ya how much they want.

thatd would be awesome and i would appreciate that a ton! oh yeah im thinking of ordering a short stick, march UD pulleys, possibly a short shifter(have no idea yet) but lets say i have 300$ what else could i do to improve my car? suspension? bolt ons? any suggestions would be appreciated! and thanks for all the comments and help guys. i thank you a TON! times a bajillion :drive:

I don't know how stuck you are on an SS, but my WS6 is for sale fully modded and has a killer suspension to boot ;) Basically it just sits in my garage except for nice days in the summer. Let me know if you're interested

What was your best time (even with the hard launch)?

13.11 at 108(?) Mods - TSP Lid, catback, B&M Ripper, Spohn adj. LCAs poly/chrom I think it was a 2.1 60 ft on my Street Tires. The thing that kept me from 12s is my launching ability, but I don't want to replace my rear end. The rear makes no more noise then it did the day I bought it, but that was only 8k ago. I plan on buying a cover and welding the tubes, if it lasts that long. I can always put the cover on one of my Thirdgens.

The run that I tried to launch hard the car hooked, went about 2 feet, then bogged. I also red lighted... in a CCC event. That sucked.

Rott - Mine is a M6, which is the only reason I said something. ATs are known to last a lot longer (generally).

thing is i bought my 83 camaro all done up and i wana start with a stock car and see what i can do.....kinda like my brother and his 93 cobra he had it stock, got bolt ons, cam, engine blew, now he has a S/C 331 stroker thats putting down about 520 rwhp on the STOCK REAR (hes getting a new tranny/rear very soon) but i kinda wana do that kinda deal...but thanks for the offer i would LOVE to see some pics!! post post!

Bah, get Bills car! I'd buy it in a second. I love love love his car!!

oh yea...i bet i can AFFORD that

how much do LCAs help?

They help ALOT. Just make sure at least one end has a rod end on it if you plan on doing more than drag racing.

thank you for the info, and do you get them welded or bolt ons?
or is there only one type?

thank you for the info, and do you get them welded or bolt ons?
or is there only one type?
Are you talking about Lower Control Arms or SubFrame Connectors? Cuz I haven't heard of anyone welding in LCA's on a 4th gen F-Body......there are relocation brackets (for the LCA) that can be bolted in or welded in, but not the LCA itself. :eek2:

well im still new to ls1s, trying to learn here. im talking about lower control arms, but since they help maybe ill check those out...BUT (no one steal this plz :)) 2001 SS in Everett for sale and im guna give him a ring maybe in the next few days or when i get back home on the 2nd, 21k, m6, extended warranty , for like 18k..guna check that out looks like a sweet car! i hope its not sold by the 2nd!! im guna cross my fingers
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hey rott ive always wanted to know what "NBM" standed for??

Navy Blue Metallic, beautiful color.

LCA's are suspension parts on F-bodies since 82 :) They are the bars that run foreward/back from the axle to the chasis. The panhard bar is the bar that runs across the car from the passenger side of the axle to the chasis. The torque arm runs foreward/back from the front of the rear end to the tranny. LCAs keep the rear end straight, panhard keeps it centered, torque arm keeps it from twisting. F-body rear suspension 82-02 101 :)

101 part A....LCAs help prevent things like wheel hop for drag racing, especially if you get relocation brackets & use the lower hole in the rear. As Bill said, solid LCAs work best for drag racing, and ones with hyme joints work best for cornering. Some people run adj shocks or even an air bag on the r rear to keep the tire from torqueing up into the wheel well under hard launches.

An adjustable torque arm can change how hard the car "hits" the rear tires when you launch by changing the pinion angle, and moving the moment point forward if you buy a shorter one (not really needed for our cars unless you are running 9s). There are whole books written for suspension & what part does what. If you beef up the parts, the f-body suspension is actually very good.

Good luck on the car!!!

thanks again for all the help guys, ill be asking plenty more questions in the future :)
ahhh Navy Blue Metallic!!! i seee i seeeee thanks.. how about FRC? for corvettes?

thanks again for all the help guys, ill be asking plenty more questions in the future :)
ahhh Navy Blue Metallic!!! i seee i seeeee thanks.. how about FRC? for corvettes?

Yep, FRC stands for Fixed Roof Coupe. It's a type of C5 'Vette... only made in '99-'00, then was succeeded by the Z06.

Yep, FRC stands for Fixed Roof Coupe. It's a type of C5 'Vette... only made in '99-'00, then was succeeded by the Z06.
And occasionally, nimrods like myself get confused and think people are talking about Fuel Rail Covers :lol: :rotflmao:

And occasionally, nimrods like myself get confused and think people are talking about Fuel Rail Covers :lol: :rotflmao:

LOL, that one always throws me off. I'm like.... didn't all Corvettes come with the Fuel Rail Covers....

LOL, that one always throws me off. I'm like.... didn't all Corvettes come with the Fuel Rail Covers....
:nod:

I are a blonde, what's your excuse? ;)

And occasionally, nimrods like myself get confused and think people are talking about Fuel Rail Covers :lol: :rotflmao:

You non-Corvette drivers, I tell ya. :judge:

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have you already sent the car to the graveyard?
i'm looking for a drivetrain for a swap.

You non-Corvette drivers, I tell ya. :judge:

:jest:
Bite me drivetrain killer....you are only recently a Vette owner, so there. :lol:

probably i havent taken care of it, my brother has. and i THINK he got money for it already so im assuming its definitly in the graveyard...

probably i havent taken care of it, my brother has. and i THINK he got money for it already so im assuming its definitly in the graveyard...
Was this EVER YOUR car or was it always your brothers and you were supposed to get it before it got smashed? Are you getting any of the $$ from the insurance? If not, how come? Do you and your brother not communicate well?

it was about to be my car. he was looking for a car and he needed it to drive to college, we got money from insurance. he crashed it the day before we were guna register it for me

Good luck on finding a hardtop, they are pretty rare. Even harder to find than a V8 vert.....

i found a nice t-top in everett im guna call him later today, then tommorow or wed ill check it out. IF ITS NOT SOLD!!!!! do you think a 2001 SS with 21,000 miles under warranty still, for 18k is a good deal? im hoping dude is flexible and will let the price drop a tad

You can get that car for less than 18k... just talk him down some. ;)

Hell, if I couldn't sell my car for 14k when I tried ('01, 26k miles) I wish that guy luck in selling his for 18k.

it was about to be my car. he was looking for a car and he needed it to drive to college, we got money from insurance. he crashed it the day before we were guna register it for me
Well, it sucks about the car being crashed but since it was never yours, it is not a huge loss at least.....there are tons of late model, low mileage F-Bods out there if you look hard enough, but I wouldn't hold out for a hardtop unless you luck into a Formie or the odd Z28 hardtop. If memory serves, the closer they got to the end of production (2002) the less hardtops there were produced........either way, good luck with your search. :)

You can get that car for less than 18k... just talk him down some. ;)

Hell, if I couldn't sell my car for 14k when I tried ('01, 26k miles) I wish that guy luck in selling his for 18k.
Weird.....I sold my 2000 WS6 (A4) with 34k on it for almost $16k.........took me a while & I thought that was a low price, but I didn't need 2 almost identical cars. :shrug:

since my son smashed his 95 Z28 on friday night my wife is all upset with me about letting him get a car like that at 17yo.I have a 2002 z28 i got when he got his to race at the tracks together.Now im thinking of selling mine to get some peace.2002 Z28 t-tops 20k miles newly built 4L60E stage 2. Sunset orange metallic like new.Whats that worth?This has been a nightmare but so glad god spared his life on fri night.Just isnt the same now that this has happened.

There's a dude at another local board that's selling his.... http://cascadecrew.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1325

10.5K Desperate.

There's a dude at another local board that's selling his.... http://cascadecrew.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1325

10.5K Desperate.
Sounds more like the NBM one at Carson Cars....it is a prior total/wreck/salvage title...and they "only" want $11k for it....33k miles......they seem to keep forgetting to mention that it has been destroyed already though. :bang:

And from that link....WTF are "factory headers"????? On an LS1???? :confused:

If its a 98 they had the funky manifolds that kinda look like headers.... my only guess.

what are some of the first suspension mods people start doing? besides lowering it..which im not guna do for a while

Shocks, springs (which usually lower it), sway bars, adjustable panhard bar, lower control arms, subframe connectors.....the list goes on and on.

do lcas need relocation brackets? and is a strut tower brace worth it?

Define need. Do they help, yes. Even more so on a lowered car. Will the car fall apart and blow up without. No.

As far as the STB, no idea on 4th gens.

i dont even know what the hell a relocation bracket does...other than obviously relocating it somewhere, but why?

STB's IMHO are not worth it other then for looks...I have never noticed any diff with or without the 2 diff kinds I have had on my car.....now I don't auto-x the car or do any serious curves in it, but I can't se it being NEEDED on a street car.

LCA relocation brackets lower the back end of the LCA after the car itself has been lowered (aftermarket springs) and can also help with traction (launching). My car is lowered about an inch and I have relo brackets, just haven't put em on yet. Hasn't destroyed the car but I know they will help once they are on.

ahh so relocation brackets are needed once you lower you car...i think the first suspension mod ill save up for is springs/shocks, then LCAs..heard our stock springs just suck

tommorow 10 am im going to everett to see the car! hopefully in the morning ill be showing you some new car pics! if not oh well.....

tommorow 10 am im going to everett to see the car! hopefully in the morning ill be showing you some new car pics! if not oh well.....
It's 10:34...where are the pictures??????? :judge:

;) ;)

tommorow! he had no insurance on the car since its stored during winter...we saw it, its dead sexy bueatiful car and everything..so tommorow were going back for a test drive (he got insurance for 24hrs) and we already have the cashiers check..if drives as good as it looks well be coming home with a new car
car is pewter/ t tops/ black leather interior, has the hurst short throw, 20800 miles, 275 tires all around on the 10 spoke SS wheels, k&n filter, no lid :bang: , SLP dual/dual cat back.

No insurance for the winter? Got insurance for 24 hours? I have never heard of such a thing. Can someone tell me if that is common here? Cuz what happens if someone steals the car during the winter? Is it not covered then? And what company gives 24 hour insurance? I would run a carfax on that sucker AND have a realllllly good mechanic look it over before I paid one penny for it if I were you.

Just my $.02

dude its called a "rider" he gets it covered for 24 hours...and taking insurance off during the winter isnt that uncommon.my brother does it with his cobra b/c he cant drive it in the rain.

dude its called a "rider" he gets it covered for 24 hours...and taking insurance off during the winter isnt that uncommon.my brother does it with his cobra b/c he cant drive it in the rain.
"dude" I asked because I am not from here and where I lived my whole life (So Cal) people don't generally store cars for the winter. And again I ask, what happens to your brother's "cobra" if it gets stolen? No insurance = no $$ for replacement.

And pardon me for being concerned for you and trying to ask questions & offer suggestions so that you don't get screwed....next time I will just let you go for it and see if :turd: happens.

i wasnt trying to start an argument.im from california too, except the bay area...but im not sure how that works. its probably still covered some how, i have no idea hwo that works

i wasnt trying to start an argument.im from california too, except the bay area...but im not sure how that works. its probably still covered some how, i have no idea hwo that works
You either have insurance, or you don't........if you are not making payments or haven't paid the premium in full, it ain't covered.

Maybe there are policies that cover the value of the car so long as you don't drive it....I don't know, have never needed anything so odd before.

My '71 has the insurance suspended when I'm not driving it. It's much, MUCH cheaper this way. One phone call and it's fully insured in a heartbeat because I didn't cancel the insurance, but rather just placed it in suspension. When it's at home it's in the garage, thus covered by my homeowners insurance. No sense in paying insurance twice right ? ;)

Perhaps this is how his insurance is set up ?

My '71 has the insurance suspended when I'm not driving it. It's much, MUCH cheaper this way. One phone call and it's fully insured in a heartbeat because I didn't cancel the insurance, but rather just placed it in suspension. When it's at home it's in the garage, thus covered by my homeowners insurance. No sense in paying insurance twice right ? ;)

Perhaps this is how his insurance is set up ?
That's cool, I wasn't aware that could be done as I thought/had been told (perhaps wrongly) that cars had to have car insurance and houses had to have....well, you get the picture. I never knew and was apparently mislead that if there was no auto insurance and the car was stolen, it coulda been sitting in your living room and that was tough :turd: I like how yours is done and if I ever get to where I have "extra" cars, I will have to look into that. :hail: