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Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 04:22 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nitrous-Express-LT1-LS1-Nitrous-Kit-Gemini-20109-10_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33740QQitemZ79314299 46QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

Seem good? Maybe not that price, or that seller, but thats the kit I think I have jchoosen, unless someone can detour me from it..

What are you honest unbaised opinions of this kit?

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 04:42 PM
Someone told me that kit is a wet kit????

Is this the kit I want?

Heres a link to the page at Nitro-Daves site

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...&section_id=19

and heres the kit I was looking at

Part Number: NX-20109-15
Nitrous Express MAF plate system with 15lb bottle
Price: $ 970.64

* Direct MAF Replacement for LS-1 & LT-1 with Horsepower adjustability from 35 to 250 W.H.P.
* Billet 6061 T-6 Construction
* Easily converted to Dual Stage
* Dual 'Shark' Nozzle Technology
* No modifications of the engine or intake system is required to install and use this system
* This system comes complete with 15lb bottle with pure flow 45 valve, Quick release stainless bottle brackets, bottle nut, bottle nipple, 14 foot stainless braided main feed line, Lighting solenoids, solenoid brackets, MAF housing ends, wot switch with bracket, jets from 35-250 W.H.P., 40 amp relay with harness, installation manual, all hoses, fittings, and installation hardware.

15 lbs bottle will be the perfect size for inbetween my rear seats correct?

red90cobra
12-20-2005, 04:48 PM
yes dude it's a nice it and it's a great starter kit

Robert56
12-20-2005, 04:51 PM
Honest opinion, for that price I would be looking at a Direct Port set-up, but that's just me. It's a fine product though.
Robert

Somebody09
12-20-2005, 05:20 PM
Unless I skipped over something... you're not really saving that much. I've never trusted e-bay because of the crap my friends got by buying there, even from people with good feedback. If you go to Dave, http://www.nitrodaves.com/outlet/products.asp?vendor_id=1&group_id=10&section_id=19, he's only charging $7 more. Anyway, how much is shipping if you got it from e-bay?

So, in my eyes, it's not a good deal. Now, $600, yes.

-somebody

brad8266
12-20-2005, 05:50 PM
Yeah for a ferw hundred more, you can get a nice direct port setup. I spent like 500 on my wet kit, minus window switch and heater.

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 05:53 PM
I wasnt gonna buy it off ebay, but thats just what I think I want, I was planning on getting it from a local speed shop..

BTW ive never had a bad deal on ebay, be in over 200 transactions

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 05:54 PM
ALSO, is that a wet or dry kit?

30thz
12-20-2005, 06:07 PM
It's a wet kit. I'm running the same thing on my lt1.

BNKBRKR
12-20-2005, 07:05 PM
My buddy has that kit on his '98 Z and he has been known to spray a 250 on the street from time to time. It is a very nice kit, clean appearance, and performs well!

STANG KILLA SS 2
12-20-2005, 07:34 PM
BTW A 15lb bottle wont fit between the seats. youll hit your elbow on the valve shifting...

860 Performance
12-20-2005, 08:05 PM
Its a nice kit. The HP numbers have been dead-on on and the install is clean especially since it comes with an electronic TPS switch (most other nitrous kits do not)
Feel free to PM me if you want to see some dyno graphs I did with the NX MAF kit.

Vinny

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 08:22 PM
so a 10lbs bottle will fit?

With this kit * witch I think Im getting * I just have to mount the bottle in my car, run a line from the bottle to the engine compartement * have no clue how the fuck to do that lol * and then that hooks up to the noids right? The noids go towards the MAF plates then right? Sorry for the total lack of knowledge!!!!!

30thz
12-20-2005, 08:31 PM
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Instructions/mafsupplement.pdf
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Instructions/stage1.pdf

here's the complete install. Sorry to steal your job Ricky :jest:

If you do a search you can find some more info and pics of others maf installs.

NXRICKY
12-20-2005, 08:49 PM
No problem steel away..lol// The MAF kit is a wet system, that can be upgraded later in life to be a dual stage.. it is the cleanest install so far;) for the LS1 cars.. If you mount the bottle on the tunnel I would get Nitrous Outlet's tunnel mount, then just route your line under the carpet up the passenger side kick panel, and there is a large rubber plug in the fire wall just below or stock PCM.. The area you can route you feed line and all wires needed for the install...
Mount you noids on the passenger side cylinder head, again on of Nitrous Outlet's products will work well here.. Then run your fuel and nitrous feed lines to the noids, and then from the noids to the maf...
Nitrous Outlet also sales a MAF noid mouting bracket, I think is pretty clean and keeps the noids really close to the jets...
Anyway in my opinion this is the best kit unless you want to spray a whole bunch of power. then it would be a direct port... The few hundered that a direct cost more than the maf, you could put into accessories, heater, purge, switch panels, remote bottle openers etc..

Hope this helps.
Ricky

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Robert from Nitrouse Direct Replyed to my email. He said that he would chose the TNT f1 kit,
http://texasnitroustechnology.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=85&osCsid=9e4982ac2d6e6d7463a25ecc5c6f835e Wet or Dry?
He also suggested a plug and play direct port system, witch I think is over kill for my small 100-150 shot, but heres the link
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/direct-port-nitrous-kit.html

ANd the wet kit he suggested was the
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/ls1-nitrous-kit.html

So my total list of choices is



http://www.nitrousdirect.com/ls1-nitrous-kit.html Wet 35-200 shot - 469.99
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/direct-port-nitrous-kit.html Direct port 100-400 shot- 999.99
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/GMMassAir.htm Wet 50-150 shot- 904.64
http://texasnitroustechnology.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=85&osCsid=9e4982ac2d6e6d7463a25ecc5c6f835e Wet or Dry? 25-250 - 799.00


I am so confused lol. Now I do know how it works though, thank you NX ricky, that helped me a lot. So tne noids control the amount of fule and nitrous gets injected?

I really wish this was a no brainer, like some choices. Theres so many ups and downs to each. I really didnt plan on going with a wet kit b/c if the thought of backfires. And dont I also HAVE to upgrade injectors and pump on my car with that 100-150 wet shot?

THanks!!!!!

EDIT!!!!

For shits and grins, I went ahead and registerd at NitroDaves. So far in my cart I have

NX-20109-10.......Nitrous Express MAF plate system with 10lb bottle.904.64
NX-15718............Fuel Pressure Safety Switch...............................49.28
NO-bottlebracket..LS1 Transmission Tunnel Mounting Bracket............59.95
ZEX-82010..........Nitrous Purge Kit............................................... 99.95

Total- 1,113.82

Thats a bit more than Id like to spend, but I guess you gotta pay to play. Im sure Im missing some things that I need... Can I cancel the purge kit? I think the last two things on my list arn't needed, I can fab something up for mounting my bottle.. So thats 160 something that I can take off, leaving me right below a grand. What other goodies should I look for?

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 10:49 PM
What about the Dynotune Lt1 Wet Kit? Seems like a killer deal

OMG so many options

Black02SS
12-20-2005, 11:01 PM
I would personally stay away from the TNT kit. I have one and the fitment is horrible. If you are going with a wet, the NX MAF kit is the only choice IMO.

SDB
12-20-2005, 11:06 PM
Dude....you need to pick a kit, buy it AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HOOK IT UP AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RIGHT...no offense, but you obviously are very new to nitrous. You don't want to botch a nitrous install and have a major problem.

Find someone in your area who has done installs before...

I have the NX MF MAF kit and it is a great kit. Kin of expensive, but the nicest out there imho.

You really need to get all the other stuff like...
NGK TR6 plugs gapped at .038
all the safety features
do a racetronix pump kit
proper install
some sort of rpm window switch...

you will spend a lot on this process, but done correctly it will be great...done wrong it will be much much more expensive and not very much fun.......

SDB

Sgt. Spuds
12-20-2005, 11:10 PM
Dude....you need to pick a kit, buy it AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HOOK IT UP AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RIGHT...no offense, but you obviously are very new to nitrous. You don't want to botch a nitrous install and have a major problem.




Non taken, your right, I am VERY new to N20. I was planning on having a local speed shop install it, I talked to them a few days ago and they were more than nice, and said they do installs all the time... Sounds really repuatable.

So the fule pumps a must eh? Thats a huge set back, summer 2090 n2o install, here I come!!! lol

So

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-NGK-TR6-plugs-LS1-LS6-Camaro-Firebird-te_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33693QQitemZ80231544 04QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Those will work in a lt1 correct?

And what about the injectors, should upgrade my pump without injectors right?

BadAssFast
12-20-2005, 11:44 PM
Robert from Nitrouse Direct Replyed to my email. He said that he would chose the TNT f1 kit,
http://texasnitroustechnology.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=85&osCsid=9e4982ac2d6e6d7463a25ecc5c6f835e Wet or Dry?
He also suggested a plug and play direct port system, witch I think is over kill for my small 100-150 shot, but heres the link
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/direct-port-nitrous-kit.html

ANd the wet kit he suggested was the
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/ls1-nitrous-kit.html

So my total list of choices is



http://www.nitrousdirect.com/ls1-nitrous-kit.html Wet 35-200 shot - 469.99
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/direct-port-nitrous-kit.html Direct port 100-400 shot- 999.99
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/GMMassAir.htm Wet 50-150 shot- 904.64
http://texasnitroustechnology.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=85&osCsid=9e4982ac2d6e6d7463a25ecc5c6f835e Wet or Dry? 25-250 - 799.00


I am so confused lol. Now I do know how it works though, thank you NX ricky, that helped me a lot. So tne noids control the amount of fule and nitrous gets injected?

I really wish this was a no brainer, like some choices. Theres so many ups and downs to each. I really didnt plan on going with a wet kit b/c if the thought of backfires. And dont I also HAVE to upgrade injectors and pump on my car with that 100-150 wet shot?

THanks!!!!!

EDIT!!!!

For shits and grins, I went ahead and registerd at NitroDaves. So far in my cart I have

NX-20109-10.......Nitrous Express MAF plate system with 10lb bottle.904.64
NX-15718............Fuel Pressure Safety Switch...............................49.28
NO-bottlebracket..LS1 Transmission Tunnel Mounting Bracket............59.95
ZEX-82010..........Nitrous Purge Kit............................................... 99.95

Total- 1,113.82

Thats a bit more than Id like to spend, but I guess you gotta pay to play. Im sure Im missing some things that I need... Can I cancel the purge kit? I think the last two things on my list arn't needed, I can fab something up for mounting my bottle.. So thats 160 something that I can take off, leaving me right below a grand. What other goodies should I look for?

Chill sit back and relax...I deal with your delima every day. Please bear with me.

You are getting sales choices from technical guys. It's hard no to here. I sell Home Entertainment about every day, but I am a bench technician. I used to get that deer in the head light look quite often. I got some high quaity sales training that I still don't use enough. Lets start again.
1- We assume you want nitrous.
2- There are two basic types of kits WET and DRY
a- They both make extra horse power the same way
1- Wet adds at least 2 solenoids - 1 gasoline 1 nitrous. The combination gets squirted through a nozzle and makes its way into your intake manifold and gets distributed to your cylindars. Basic explaination.
2 - Dry adds at least 1 solenoid - 1 nitrous. The nitrous gas enters your intake manifold and a sensor tells your injector circuit you need moe gas to keep up with the extra oxygen now in the motor and the gasoline is pumped through your injectors.
They both have advantages and disadvantages.
Wet advantage is you have a harder hit that some people really notice. You can go generalluy up to 150 hp w/o changing your fuel pump.
Dry advantage is one less solenoid to fail. It can be hidden.
Wet Disadvantage - some say that since none of these cars were designed to have a gas/nitrous mixture flowed through them you may have puddling. I'm not sure of the number of wet systems out there vs this sort of explosion. Probably a very low number. The current nozzles like the NX atomize so sell and the velocities are so high when traveling through the motor this is a slim slim chance.
Dry disadvantage - softer hit. You must pay close attention to the duty cycles of your injectors.

So be aware of this stuff. Bottom line in my opinion is a quality kit like the NX MAF. Is well revieved by most wet lovers. It consistently yields great runs, great fun and super clean installations. Remember that vendors can tell you technical stuff about these kits that we may never quite undersatnd. What we understand is having a guy like Nitrodave there to help you figure out where a wire goes...or having an NXRicky or NXJeremy to find out if a fuse blows why it occured. You need to know that the company you are dealing with has a strong warranty. You need to know that beginners may have a use for a more complicated Direct port, but there are lots if jets (16) to change if you want to ease up up your shot. There will always be people here that prefer a dry kit...like Robert56. He knows his stuff...but so so Ricky and Jeremy know wet and dry kits...not to mention Nitro dave again. I chose my first Zex kit over all else was one reason...I was learning. I grew out if the Zex...was choosing between a Direct Port and NX MAF...I felt like for 2006 I wanted to learn a full solenoid setup that Zex doesn't use. I made my decision to go with the simplier NX MAF despite any low chances of failure. I did not want to change all those jets YET. I have a new Iron 408 being shipped to me from LME in Houston tomorrow that will support a whole bunch of nitrous. That may be my ticket to a Direct Port...but the NX MAF will probably suit me fine. Its good to a pretty big bump. Look over the advantages and disadvantages and see what makes sense. Have fun...
- Macon

Robert56
12-20-2005, 11:50 PM
A direct port is only considered a over kill because of the cost and the difficulty plumbing. Well our kits are quality and value at a great price. It's plug and play, no pulling intake and tappping and plumbing. It's safer that a reg wet hit for sure, no distribution problems because each cly gets the same shot. It is not over kill in this case, and would like anyone to prove it is. Foe an extra $100 bucks a DP, what a steal, but just giving options. We beat the price barrier and the difficulty barrier all with quality. I will be running this kit on my Z06.
Robert

BadAssFast
12-21-2005, 12:01 AM
A direct port is only considered a over kill because of the cost and the difficulty plumbing. Well our kits are quality and value at a great price. It's plug and play, no pulling intake and tappping and plumbing. It's safer that a reg wet hit for sure, no distribution problems because each cly gets the same shot. It is not over kill in this case, and would like anyone to prove it is. Foe an extra $100 bucks a DP, what a steal, but just giving options. We beat the price barrier and the difficulty barrier all with quality. I will be running this kit on my Z06.
Robert
Actually DP makes excellent sense...it rules out the potential problems. It is time consuming and tedious to swpa out 16 nozzles. IMHO.
- Macon

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 12:03 AM
I am 90% sure that I will be going with the NX MAF kit. I am not needing a huge shot of n2o, I dont race for money, for fun. Id like to see my car in the 12's eventually. I think with this kit, and my mods I have now, I will be damn close to the 12's if not in them, and then the other bolt ons I have planed will get me there for sure.

Now that I have chosen my kit, I need to know what I have to get to be safe. Remember, were working with a 136k mile car here, Althought it apears to be well taken care of, its still 136k miles. So I will need:

The kit ( doh lol )
Racetronix Fuel Pump ( With or without the plug and play harnes? )
Plugs
FPSS
Bottle mounting stuff


That it? Should I invest in a purge? How bout Injectors?


After I do all of the N20 Set up, and get some more mod money, I think Im going to get a new alt, battery, MSD opti, plug wires, fuel filter, and a GM million or so point inspection.... That seem like a good idea even though none of this stuff has failed yet? Its all stock



And If I like my small shot this time around, when I build my stroker after college * long term mod lists, gotta love them! * I will use a directport...

BadAssFast
12-21-2005, 12:17 AM
I am 90% sure that I will be going with the NX MAF kit. I am not needing a huge shot of n2o, I dont race for money, for fun. Id like to see my car in the 12's eventually. I think with this kit, and my mods I have now, I will be damn close to the 12's if not in them, and then the other bolt ons I have planed will get me there for sure.

Now that I have chosen my kit, I need to know what I have to get to be safe. Remember, were working with a 136k mile car here, Althought it apears to be well taken care of, its still 136k miles. So I will need:

That's a lot of miles...i'd have someone look to see if you get any oil smoke when you let off the throttle after a NA run. The N20 will raise cyl pressure and be a bit tougher on your rings.

The kit ( doh lol )
Racetronix Fuel Pump ( With or without the plug and play harnes? )

If you do it...go for the harness...otherwise it's like using 16 g zip cord to power a subwoofer amplifier, if that makes sense. The FP will draw a goodly amount of current.


Plugs

TR6s work well


FPSS

I don't...some degree of safety there.


Bottle mounting stuff

See 860 Perfromance stuff.


That it? Should I invest in a purge? How bout Injectors?

Purge absolutely and a warmer too. Injectors not with wet unless your tuner says so


After I do all of the N20 Set up, and get some more mod money, I think Im going to get a new alt, battery, MSD opti, plug wires, fuel filter, and a GM million or so point inspection.... That seem like a good idea even though none of this stuff has failed yet? Its all stock

Have a blast!


And If I like my small shot this time around, when I build my stroker after college * long term mod lists, gotta love them! * I will use a directport...
Sounds like me, but younger...the stroker may come sooner than you think!!
-Macon

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 12:32 AM
Do you think that I need the pump though? On that small of a shot?

As far as smoke, never had anyone say anything about it, and ive been followed by friends.

red90cobra
12-21-2005, 12:38 AM
with that many miles it's time to replace it if it hasn't already just to be safe.

BadAssFast
12-21-2005, 12:43 AM
Do you think that I need the pump though? On that small of a shot?

As far as smoke, never had anyone say anything about it, and ive been followed by friends.
Not really...except that at 133K miles things start to get "old". I would try it w/o. A straight Walboro 255 might be fine too on stock wiring. Start on a 75 (if you can) shot...ease it up to 100. Why jump in all at once? My .02.

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 12:56 AM
Sounds sound.

Whats the worst that would happen, Would it go lean, and blow? Wouldnt I notice that on my temp gauge?

What about a fule pressure gauge?

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
12-21-2005, 01:07 AM
I have not read all the above but I would like to relay something.



First the maff system is in my opinion one of the cleanest systems on the market. THere are many many nice quality systems to choose from. A direct port is over kill in the fact that it is not needed for the size shot yuou are looking at.THere is higher cost in parts,labor and more tunning involved.

With that said.There are simple sinngle nozzles.They work great but give more of a universal look. Now THere are plate systems also THat we offer in our brand and the NOS brand.There is also the tnt f1 system.This is a nice system. Then we have a dual nozzle kit with SLP smooth bellows in outr chrismas specials that is a nec system also.

So many choices.LOL The key is to pic the desighn you like.THen compare certain things like the companys reputation,completeness of the system,the quality and si=ze of the solenoids,the flow and quality of the bottle valve etc.

Now, I can tell your heart was set on the maff system. I think that is one of the best quality systems and cleanest system on the market. NX has what is called map pricing so the price on our website may actually be higher than the price you would recieve if you were to email,pm or call us.hint hint. :)

After you picjk the system that fits your needs look into the accessories needed to help the system fuction to its full potential safley.
If I can be of any help please feel free to send me a pm.
Merry Christmas
Dave

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 01:16 AM
Dave, you sir, are a good man lol. I know all about map pricing from my old hobby, will have to shoot you a call tomorrow, see what I can get from ya :) I will defenatly buy stuff from you, and direct other people towards your store, youve been more than helpful! What are your operating hours, when would be the best time to call tomorrow? Im sure this is all on your site, so I'll check.


Merry Christmas everyone!

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 01:22 AM
Oh, one last thing before I hit the sack.

Should I have to tune differently for this kit? I wanna dyno my car anyways, to get a baseline, so I'll be at the dyno shop anyways, I might as well wait till after the kits installed and have the guy tune acordingly correct?

Robert56
12-21-2005, 02:14 AM
SGT Spuds. I know its hard getting correct info from a company looking to push sales so I would like to be of asistance if possible.

Dave can you elaborate on this statement? are you talking about your self? or me?
Robert

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
12-21-2005, 02:23 AM
Robert, I am not talking about you or myself. I am just stating that I would be happy to offer knowledgeable help with out a sales pitch behind it.Some companys sales drivin in there tech help.With that happening how can you ever get a real since for what the person or customer is really needing or looking for.

Dave

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
12-21-2005, 02:25 AM
SGt Spuds.You can call anytime.TOLL FREE 1-866-648-7637.
This time of the year we are open 9.00-5.30 and closed 12-1 for lunch.

As for the tune.You may want to use a timing tunner so you can run the best NA tune and pull timing for nitrous.Other wise your tunner can juts give you a good tune that will work both ways.
Dave

Robert56
12-21-2005, 02:34 AM
Robert, I am not talking about you or myself. I am just stating that I would be happy to offer knowledgeable help with out a sales pitch behind it.Some companys sales drivin in there tech help.With that happening how can you ever get a real since for what the person or customer is really needing or looking for.

Dave
Ooook, it just seemed that the only sellers on this thread were you and I?
I still think comparitive costs that DP is not over kill. remember this base kit has EFI nozzles (NOSzles) and poly lines, so it's all plug and play, easy to change jets compared to hard line Dp kits, and has dual nitrous and dual fuel noids that are very, very big. Also, everything is removable for next ride without damage left behind when resaling. I am only stating this for people reading along as Sgt Spuds seems to have made his choice. Just wanting to clarify some points. :)
Robert

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
12-21-2005, 03:03 AM
Robert.
You are correct in the sence that its easeir to install.But here are the down falls. All directports require a little extra tunning. For some people that is no big deal but it does add more to the intall and needed knowledge. Also one some injector sytle systems you will need to kmake sure the injector flow path is not interupted. NX makes a nice injector kit that we use that does not have this problem.Pluss it sits the injector down off in the seat better.Even with that said though I still prefer a real nozzle on a directport system.

Here is a pic of one of our most recent under the nozzle kit.
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8802/topshotangle7fj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2357/topshotstraightdown9vn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6365/sideview1bm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now for the ultimate NXL kit they offer. This is a bolt on unit that replaces fuel rails and all. (This is not our work I stole this off the board)
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7846/shineyengine5od.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Dave

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
12-21-2005, 03:06 AM
NOS also offer a universal under the injector system. I do not have any pics of it.
Dave

Robert56
12-21-2005, 04:13 AM
Yea, we have a new EFI nozzle coming out, to replace current model. yea, NOS has the earl issue with the NOSzle, but sorted out now. I reconize that last pic, that's ICLUCKIN's vette, a very nice $$ set-up.

Here's a pic of the ND EFI nozzles and a hard line set-up, I'll be using braided, as I like that look.
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/images/closeupdirectport1.jpg
Robert

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 10:23 AM
Do you have to drop the rear end to get at the tank? I havent been under this car yet..

BadAssFast
12-21-2005, 12:57 PM
Do you have to drop the rear end to get at the tank? I havent been under this car yet..
I think so...undo shocks is about it...as I recall. There is a way to make an access panel...not for me.

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 01:13 PM
No trap door method here either. Just got off the phone with dave. Ive got the kit picked out. I think youve talked me into a fuel pump aswell. He said all you have to do is unbolt the lower shock mounts and panbar and it swings right out of the way... Since I dont have a garage and its fuckin cold out, Im gonna go call a speed shop and see how much they would charge to install the kit, and the pump..

NXRICKY
12-21-2005, 01:25 PM
check out daves wirng harness set up, should make for an easy install.. I was going to let you know if you purchased the maf I would thorw in the FPSS for free if that would help you out, but looks like you have gotten a great price.. I am sure you picked a kit that will look great and be easy to install..

Ricky

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Any need to pull timing for a DD car thats gonna see five 100 shot passes possibly every other weekend?

SDB
12-21-2005, 09:23 PM
buy a timing tuner...it will allow for timing advance/retard when on motor as well as on nitrous....and it has the rpm window switch you need as well. Great little product.

30thz
12-21-2005, 10:28 PM
Spud, where you located? Trust me do the trap door method. It's not worth the hassel of dropping the rear and tank on the LT1's

Sgt. Spuds
12-21-2005, 11:03 PM
Im in IL...

I think I'd rather pay a bit more to have it done vs cutting my car up. Whats your argument? Just wondering, no offince.

30thz
12-22-2005, 08:28 AM
If you do it right you will never now, it's hidden under the carpet. I was all against the trap door when I did mine. But then a frien had a problem with his pump and becuase he did the trap door he didn't have to redrop everything. The other point is 98 and older have a different neck and if not dropped right will brake, good luck fixing it. it takes 10 minutes to cut a clean hole and then you never have to do it again. so it could save you money especially if you do it yourself and use that money for other nitrous accessories. just my .02.

And if you are concerned about cutting a 6 x 10 hole in your car why are you putting N20 in it. That arguement has never made sense to me im willing to mod my car one way but not the other. It's your car and your desion so do what you want.

Sgt. Spuds
12-22-2005, 09:12 AM
Mod my car for performance and no negitive draw backs? Or mod it b/c im too lazy/cheap to do it the right way.

Its like saying that anyone with a peircing should blow a hole in your leg with a 12g shot gun and think of the two things as equal?

NXJeremy
12-22-2005, 10:38 AM
Back when I had my LT1 car I was going to change the pump and was debating between dropping the tank and cutting the hole in the floor pan. Since I planned on continually modifying the car and there was the possibility that I might need to change the pump in the future, I decided that it would be much easier to cut the trap door in the floor pan. If done correctly and carefully it isn't even noticeable and it provides very easy access to the pump. I do 95% of the work on my vehicles so this was a good choice for me, but if you are having someone else do the work then I guess it won't really matter which way you have it done.