70Stang

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I have a 2000 WS6 with Pacesetter LTs / TSP X / Dumps / Stock intake,TB,MAF/ TCI 3000 / NX 150 / Drag Radials.

I am looking for a cam...I will probably never touch the heads and wont restall until I put a TH400 in the car.


I am looking for a good cam, that will kick *** on the track. It HAS to sounds uper agressive, but it also has to run good...I don't wanna soin the motor too high, so kinda keep that in mind.

So far the TR Trak (231/234 .640/.590 112 LSA) looks pretty appealing, as well as the regular crew (MS3, F13) but those sound like I am gonna have to spin the motor to high.

Does anyone have any advice??

Thanks!!

Bo White

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F13 cut on a 114

66deuce

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how about a TR220 or 224 cut on a 110lsa?it won't peak too high,should have killer mid range and an aggressive lope.it won't give you big peak numbers but should give you plenty of power in the rpm range to match up with your gears and stall.JMO

70Stang

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Couple things...Would the 110 be to short for the nitrous? I have heard you want a bigger LSA when you spray...?

As for the F13 on a 114, would that be a very peaky cam that I have to spin really high?

66deuce

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i don't know about the nitrous,i stay away from that stuff,lol.as far as the F13-114,i think it peaks around 6200-6500.i don't know for sure maybe someone else can chime in.right now i run a TR220-114LSA and it peaks at almost 6000rpms.

mrr23

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vinci 066 cam

DUR @ .004" 282* / 286*
DUR @ .050" 220*/ 224*
LIFT .551/.551
OVERLAP 57*
LSA 114*

Ωmega

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Your stall is too small to run an MS3 or f13 unless you are spraying, they will feel like a dog down low. Plus, you do need to spin pretty high. With your setup, like 66deuce said, a 224 on a 110 would be cool. It'll sound good at idle and won't peak too high, so you won't be spinning too much.

70Stang

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I am spraying, thats the only thing that is making me want the MS3...hmmmmmm

Thanks everyone for the info!

01Z0H6

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I am running an RPM4 cam... Comp 232 236 .595 .601 @ 114+4..
Gained 40HP with this cam..

switched from the TR220 on a 112+4..
Car is an A4... with a Yank 3500...
Here are my HP numbers...
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70Stang

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Cool!

Spinmonster

Limiting the cam to such small cams because you aren't running ported heads is something I wish to differ with. Yes it isn't optimum for the cam in question but if someone tells you that a 224 is the max and a 232/236 wont be faster is a retart. 232/236 with heads will be much faster.

The cam will not be nearly as good if you don't have heads but you can get more power out of a bigger cam than a smaller one. Just not near what the same big cam would get with heads. Thunder has shown that some reallly big cams giove big numbers without heads.

220/224 is a silly move. Its all in the tune.

Your biggest issue is the stall and gears.

Comp 224/230 114lsa XER is an off the shelf grind that is great for your application and will be easy to tune. If you want to make the power lower install it 2 degrees advanced or get it on a 112 LSA. I got 441 to the wheels with it in my C5 and have it in my C6 too with the addition of a FAST 90, and higher compression. I am definitely near 470 rwhp in the 6 liter. Bigger cams make more power than smaller cams without heads as long as the power band is decent. 220/224 isn't as powerful as 230/236 with stock heads. I would concentrate on tighter LSA's and stop being **** about duration. If you have a great tuner then 230 on a 110 would work just as well down low with silly additional power up top. Gears and tuning........

66deuce

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a 220 or 224 is not a silly move.if he wants to keep his 3000 stall and gears,these are the cams that will suit his gearing and stall for all around drivability.yes,you can go bigger and make more power,but it will be soggier down low without a bigger stall/and or gears.i do agree about the 224/230 with the 2 degrees advance,the split dur. would work well with stock heads.i run a TR220 114lsa with 3.73 gears and a 3000 stall,and ported heads.it's a blast to drive around town,power everywhere and idles good.a lot of it depends on personal preference as far as drivability,idle quality,etc.some people are more conservitive than others when it comes to cam selection,me included.unfortunately,cam selection is a little more involved when it comes to A4s.

70Stang

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Ok, I should be more clear I suppose...Idle is a non issue, the worse it is the better IMO.... Drivability, meh....I don't care if it feels 'soggy' around town, as long as it doesn't on the strip...ya know?

66deuce

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as far as the idle,i was talking about myself,lol.you can go to a bigger cam (230 dur.)but it would work better with a higher stall TQ to match your higher tq. peak with a bigger cam.but since your spraying i guess it doesn't matter,lol.

70Stang

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Stupid combos...so hard to make perfect!!

66, thanks for all the help so far!!

jlashley2001ss

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well what about with a 3500 stall, 3.23 gears, and stock heads, and its a DD? what cam you recommend?

66deuce

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IMO,the tried and true TR224 is about the best all around DD cam out there,and would work well with your TQ.

66deuce

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there is a lot of combos out there,you just have to pick the best one for your goals.everybody likes different set ups.there is no one "right"cam/stall,gears,etc. for everybody.i love my setup,but a lot of people think it's too conservetive.for my use,it's perfect for me.

JS

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Tr220

jlashley2001ss

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yeah but does the TR224 have a mean lopey sound? I want a cam that sounds pretty mean to.