Cadillac CTS-V - The fix for the CTS-V rear




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MADMAN
12-23-2005, 07:31 PM
I am asking a question here.

I have a fix in the works for your rear end problems. This fix will allow you to place extreme amounts of power to the ground. Would this be a viable option if it was a total bolt in unit??????????????????????????


Mat347
12-23-2005, 08:00 PM
The rear is one of the major reasons I have somewhat scaled back the longterm upgrades to my V. I'm sure anyone who wants mods will be very interested in an upgrade. It would be super nice if your kit would be a 9" IRS conversion where parts/gears would be easy to find.

markbinkc
12-23-2005, 09:35 PM
I am asking a question here.

I have a fix in the works for your rear end problems. This fix will allow you to place extreme amounts of power to the ground. Would this be a viable option if it was a total bolt in unit??????????????????????????

Hell yes. Whatcha got??????


JonCR96Z
12-23-2005, 10:50 PM
We are in the market for a V and planning on doing all preventive maintenance for keeping the rear intact, also planning on improving power output. Would love to hear what you have in mind.

Jon

Parker TX
12-24-2005, 01:43 AM
I think it would be a great option, and my only one at that! :)

verbs
12-24-2005, 02:40 AM
I am asking a question here.

I have a fix in the works for your rear end problems. This fix will allow you to place extreme amounts of power to the ground. Would this be a viable option if it was a total bolt in unit??????????????????????????

You would make a bagillion dollars if you could pull it off. The only consistently available kit is made by BMR and it's not an end all.....it just cures most of the wheel hop. I would buy one in a heartbeat from you over the BMR just based on the work you've done in the past. I'd like to hear details ASAP as I'm about to go buy a BMR kit, since wheel hop blew up one of my differentials already after 3300 miles.

BTW, you'd get 50 times the response on the cadillac forums compared to here.

JETG
12-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Madman

Heck ya make a rear end for us. We need one very bad, heard you were working on one in the shop, someone from dallas I believe. That is the only reason I have not put more power to this car as of yet, waiting on a solution for the rear end.

We have meet on several occasions, not sure you remember me, use to come out with BADZ "jeff Paris", when we use to go to Sealy and baytown. I also heard you have a shop out in Tomball, were exactly is it ?? I will be needing some bottle refills come in a week or so. Would like to come out and check out the new shop.

JET

MADMAN
12-24-2005, 09:41 AM
I am in the testing faze right now. The fix will be a complete bolt in unit with a new driveshaft, center section and halfshafts. I am hoping to be taking orders at the end of Jan.

JetG my shop is behind the old Parkway Chevy. The address is 14102 Pine Meadow.

JETG
12-24-2005, 10:56 AM
I am in the testing faze right now. The fix will be a complete bolt in unit with a new driveshaft, center section and halfshafts. I am hoping to be taking orders at the end of Jan.

JetG my shop is behind the old Parkway Chevy. The address is 14102 Pine Meadow.


Okay I will swing by sometime. I live in Fairfield so not to far away from you at all. What is the shop number. If I would have known that you were thinking about doing this i would have just let you use my car, as it sits in the garage for months on end, while working in WI.

Jet

ls6ctsv
12-24-2005, 11:48 AM
This is great news. I can't wait to see your package.
(sent you a PM)

wildwhl
12-24-2005, 11:50 AM
Ballpark figure of how much $$$?

Will the driveshaft clear stock/aftermarket (aka B&B) exhausts?

I'm very interested...would love to see pics if available.

WW

lawfive
12-24-2005, 01:27 PM
There are a bunch of guys (me included) who've already ponied up R&D money for a project on the other forum. You betcha we're interested... First to market with a bullet-proof solution should rule! Me like the idea of new (one-piece?) driveshaft, new half-shafts... :)

ctsvett
12-24-2005, 04:43 PM
Good that the aftermarket is finally addressing this...

let us know how much and more about the setup...

Reed

ssmith100
12-24-2005, 06:42 PM
There will be two versions of a 9" ford replacement in the next few months. Everyone just needs to be patient. From whta I've been told it will be a complete assembly.

Shane

ahahnu
12-25-2005, 12:20 AM
Yeah Yeah Yeah New Rear!

GT04CTS-V
12-25-2005, 07:24 AM
Count me in for the fix, especially if it's a bolt in. I'm on my third diff, this time they installed the 06 version. Now I'm afraid to push the car hard. Diff quote "You are the weekest link, Goodbye"


GT

willsctsv
12-25-2005, 11:12 AM
Anxiously awaiting....

GTP
12-25-2005, 12:55 PM
There will be two versions of a 9" ford replacement in the next few months. Everyone just needs to be patient. From whta I've been told it will be a complete assembly.

Shane

So people are "ok" with ditching a IRS setup in favor of a solid rear? I don't get it. Even though the V's diff is underrated its still a superior setup as far as suspension goes. I hope someone incorperates a C5/C6 differential into the V's cradle.

Aaron Lephart

MADMAN
12-25-2005, 01:36 PM
my unit will still be independent suspension. I will just be built out of parts that will take the abuse.

GT04CTS-V
12-25-2005, 02:57 PM
Hopefully it'll take the abuse and eliminate the wheel hop.


GT

MADMAN
12-25-2005, 05:26 PM
I can promise it will take the abuse. It is the same parts I use in our 2000hp Outlaw cars. I believe the wheel hop will be eliminated also.

GT04CTS-V
12-25-2005, 05:55 PM
I can promise it will take the abuse. It is the same parts I use in our 2000hp Outlaw cars. I believe the wheel hop will be eliminated also.


Madman - Sweeeeeettttt




GT

Parker TX
12-25-2005, 06:06 PM
Gonna be built with billy badass shit by a madman.

arr0gant
12-25-2005, 06:59 PM
This is great news. I can't wait to see your package.
(sent you a PM)

Sorry but that sounded funny. I WANNA SEE YOUR PACKAGE TOO!!! :) How much? Ballpark? Also, can any mechanic put it on for me?

Piaggio Pilot
12-26-2005, 08:12 AM
Madman.....PRESS ON......sounds like you may have "hit the bullseye" with this...

Keep us all posted on this forum as to Availability/Price/Etc....

RocketSSled
12-26-2005, 01:10 PM
GTOCTS-V ... you had mentioned that they replaced your rear end with the '06 version. Having the pnos would help me convince my Caddy service manager to do the same with my V. Please post the details with pnos and what was done.

Thanks.

GT04CTS-V
12-27-2005, 07:28 AM
GTOCTS-V ... you had mentioned that they replaced your rear end with the '06 version. Having the pnos would help me convince my Caddy service manager to do the same with my V. Please post the details with pnos and what was done.

Thanks.

Here's the info from my warranty receipt:

Part numbers:

15793756 Carrier
1052358 Lubricant
89021677 Lubricant
25730853 Vent


- C/S Evaluate whining noise from rear axle area.
- Leaking and noisy rear
- Replaced leaking and noisy rear diff


GT

VELOSE
12-28-2005, 09:59 PM
First post. Just jumped the fence from the "other forum". Well it was more like broke a couple of the nails on one of the wood boards on the fence. :D

Bumping this thread for some pics...

2c5s
12-28-2005, 11:56 PM
First post. Just jumped the fence from the "other forum". Well it was more like broke a couple of the nails on one of the wood boards on the fence. :D

Bumping this thread for some pics...


Welcome to a real board. No mod protected pussy supporting tuner vendors over here. Just fact, leave the fiction for the cadyowners.com crap.

Parker TX
12-29-2005, 02:25 AM
Welcome Velose...there will be pics by next week for sure.

GTP
12-29-2005, 08:31 AM
First post. Just jumped the fence from the "other forum". Well it was more like broke a couple of the nails on one of the wood boards on the fence. :D

Bumping this thread for some pics...


Welcome VELROSE!

Aaron Lephart

GTP
12-29-2005, 08:32 AM
Welcome to a real board. No mod protected pussy supporting tuner vendors over here. Just fact, leave the fiction for the cadyowners.com crap.


You took the words right out of my mouth!

Not to mention this forum is about 100 times fast in loading!

Aaron Lephart

VELOSE
12-29-2005, 01:22 PM
Oh man....loving the warm welcome. I like how we can freely express what we feel. :D

CTS-V
12-29-2005, 03:25 PM
I'm guessing my V's gonna be the guinea pig for this, since Thunder's sending it to Madman after they get the engine in. Gonna be a 9" IRS unit and I couldn't be more exited. I miss my car :(

Mike Smith

Staxxin
12-29-2005, 04:30 PM
Does anyone have a idea of what pricing might be?

Florian
12-29-2005, 04:43 PM
I tell you what, I just cannot wait...I friggin HATE the std V rear end. What a POS. Madman, you had me at "it can take the abuse"!


F

Florian
12-29-2005, 04:43 PM
BTW, I just jumped ship too....nice place ya got here.


F

platinum
12-29-2005, 06:09 PM
cool. you should see ours when it comes out. it will also have lots of options for the customer to choose from. :secret2:

Paul F
12-30-2005, 09:01 AM
Does anyone have a idea of what pricing might be?


We don't have a firm price yet but it's not going to be cheap. It will be a Billet Al. Ford 9" center keeping the IRS, half shafts, and a drive shaft most likely. We'll have some firm numbers once we finish Mike's car.

.

Florian
12-30-2005, 10:26 AM
You're going to do a land-office business on the rears, assuming what you have told us will operate as advertised. I for one, will be ponying up the dough for a new rear. I suspect you will have dozens of orders for them. How about a GB for initial 25 or so? I think youd have many takers for that.


F

markbinkc
12-30-2005, 10:57 AM
You're going to do a land-office business on the rears, assuming what you have told us will operate as advertised. I for one, will be ponying up the dough for a new rear. I suspect you will have dozens of orders for them. How about a GB for initial 25 or so? I think youd have many takers for that.


F

Count me in on this too, as I'm going to need it. Having a similar rebuild job to Mike, just not quite as radical.

Mark

Piaggio Pilot
12-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Based on price.....count me in also....GB sounds like the way to go....

VELOSE
12-30-2005, 11:42 AM
I'll lay down a smack on my stock original rearend when I know there's a reliable aftermarket upgrade to go to. Meanwhile, I'll baby my rear until then. :D Either way, I'm a future customer of yours.

Welcome Florian!

Staxxin
12-30-2005, 02:34 PM
GB sounds like a great plan....

HDMLNIUM
12-30-2005, 02:40 PM
You have my attention, I may just keep the V afterall.... :hail:

Bill

Parker TX
12-30-2005, 07:30 PM
You can always do the Austrailian fix that doesn't exist yet for 9K w/o shipping

:jest:

lasstss
12-30-2005, 07:58 PM
You can always do the Austrailian fix that doesn't exist yet for 9K w/o shipping

:jest:

Well its as much vaporware as this one so far. $9K.. I dont think so. They are going to use the Bulk of the Dana in the GTO as a starting point. No matter who does it it aint going to be cheap. It will need a diff and axles too, no doubt about it.

Parker TX
12-30-2005, 08:48 PM
This one isn't vaporware due to the fact that my V is at Madmans as we speak. :judge:

Staxxin
12-30-2005, 09:27 PM
This one isn't vaporware due to the fact that my V is at Madmans as we speak. :judge:


Lucky Man!!!!

lasstss
12-31-2005, 12:14 PM
This one isn't vaporware due to the fact that my V is at Madmans as we speak. :judge:

Thats great, I hope it works out for everyone. We need some options.

Florian
01-01-2006, 10:15 PM
bump...

Seattle CTS-V
01-05-2006, 12:38 PM
This sounds awesome...patiently (sort of) waiting :)

V-seriesTech
01-05-2006, 01:20 PM
Welcome to a real board. No mod protected pussy supporting tuner vendors over here. Just fact, leave the fiction for the cadyowners.com crap.



Well said.

Can't really add to this.

J

Parker TX
01-05-2006, 04:19 PM
:jest:

Florian
01-06-2006, 11:46 AM
Parker,
When is your V slated to be finished by MadMan?


F

obZidian
01-06-2006, 12:16 PM
hey ya'll....welcome new members from the caddy site!!

Bumpidy bump!!

Parker, so wats up on the car man'g? I'm in like sin...rear is just whining to get replaced..

Im sure it will be expensive but not 9k. Well, if it isa 9k, you are getting a product from the states so less shipping, and a driveshaft built by a madman with parts that can withstand a nuclear blast...well, at least a go over 3k without having to be replaced!!

Parker TX
01-06-2006, 01:15 PM
I called him yesterday. The center should be in by next week and then its on like donkey kong. Yall keep peepin back in.

obZidian
01-06-2006, 01:45 PM
so its a ford 9" center secton with custom halfshafts? Also, is the driveshaft also being tackled in this build?

NLinnear
01-10-2006, 10:37 AM
I have a customer that is on his 6th differential. He will be very interested in this.

Parker TX
01-10-2006, 11:08 AM
so its a ford 9" center secton with custom halfshafts? Also, is the driveshaft also being tackled in this build?


Yes the driveshaft is being tackled in this package as well.

obZidian
01-11-2006, 12:41 PM
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






bump! :) :) :)

Viperbeam
01-12-2006, 01:58 AM
I might just keep the v for the new rear end. anyone has a rough idea on the price/

Florian
01-12-2006, 08:44 PM
anything>? bump


F

Parker TX
01-12-2006, 11:15 PM
All I know is that the center section is finished. Im sure Madman will chime in to give the rest of you a update.

keeksv
01-13-2006, 08:04 AM
All I know is that the center section is finished. Im sure Madman will chime in to give the rest of you a update.

Refreshing to be witnessing someone actually improving his (our) car rather than whining about it (see other board).

Keep letting us know how it's going, Parker. I have my checkbook out, and the top one has "Madman Racing" written on it.

eric

Cadillac MotorSports
01-22-2006, 08:30 PM
Any preliminary estimates on costs of the finished differential as a "turnkey product" finished and ready for labor & installation?

Obviously; there are original drawings, CAD/CAM program development; direct material overhead with regard to aluminum, steel alloy, ferrous metals and machine costs. R&D costs and indirect labor is constantly changing with regard to fitment and testing as the project evolves; but what do you "forsee" the final "crated" unit costing us when it is "turnkey" and ready for over the counter sale?

CIWS
01-22-2006, 10:03 PM
Madman is only a few hours drive south too :)

Paul F
01-23-2006, 09:23 AM
Any preliminary estimates on costs of the finished differential as a "turnkey product" finished and ready for labor & installation?


As soon as the unit is finished up and tested on Parkers car we will have detailed pricing and options listed out.

.

platinum
01-23-2006, 01:22 PM
1 000 000 000

Joey'sVee
01-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Man....we can't wait....

dannystang
01-23-2006, 10:53 PM
I know I am late on this one but hop officially fixed on this kit?

V-seriesTech
01-24-2006, 07:25 AM
I know I am late on this one but hop officially fixed on this kit?


Your mom was late.

Hence=danny :gay:

:devil:

Paul F
01-24-2006, 08:22 AM
I know I am late on this one but hop officially fixed on this kit?


We'll all know soon.

Paul

Kadonny
01-24-2006, 08:29 AM
*sits and waits*

Parker TX
01-24-2006, 09:40 AM
*twiddles thumbs*

Piaggio Pilot
01-24-2006, 10:41 AM
I have Nitto Drag Radials, and no Wheel spin and no hop, 'cause wheels are not spinning....

Viperbeam
01-24-2006, 12:33 PM
*dances*

Florian
01-24-2006, 01:39 PM
anxiously awaiting.......


F

dannystang
01-24-2006, 02:57 PM
Your mom was late.

Hence=danny :gay:

:devil:

So jealous my rear is virgin and your has been broken in various time by florian.

:engarde:

I got a greazy fat chick for ya this weekend.

JETG
01-24-2006, 03:13 PM
:lurk: :lurk: :lurk: :lurk: :lurk:

Dam the suspense is killing me, price price. Not worried on break in, cause madman does it once and does it right the first time.



Jet

U LUZ
01-24-2006, 04:44 PM
im going to guess it is 5,000.00 just in parts alone..

JETG
01-24-2006, 05:15 PM
im going to guess it is 5,000.00 just in parts alone..


sure hope your wrong. Considering it will just be the punkin and axels from what I can tell.

427C5
01-24-2006, 05:43 PM
Count me in for the GP.
I would really love a Twin Turbo for the V as well. (STS rear mount or Lingenfelter)

I thought you guys would get a kick out of these whiny bitches at the other forum who rather deny their precious cars had a weak link rather then fix it.
Ya better check my threads out before they are deleted.
Their forum is such a joke.

http://cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63727

Florian
01-24-2006, 06:05 PM
So jealous my rear is virgin and your has been broken in various time by florian.

:engarde:

I got a greazy fat chick for ya this weekend.

I thought I felt something funny on my junk this weekend... :gay: :wrist: :moon: <----thats what it looked like too!!! :jest:


F

Sal Collaziano
01-25-2006, 01:18 PM
Count me in for the GP.
I would really love a Twin Turbo for the V as well. (STS rear mount or Lingenfelter)

I thought you guys would get a kick out of these whiny bitches at the other forum who rather deny their precious cars had a weak link rather then fix it.
Ya better check my threads out before they are deleted.
Their forum is such a joke.

http://cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63727
Don't you guys have anything better to do than criticize my site? It's always something with you guys.

If Thunder Racing/Madman Racing has a solution to the rear-end issues of the CTS-V, than they stand to make a nice profit by selling this solution to our members. The least they can do is help support the existence of such a client base... Or don't. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Paul F
01-25-2006, 01:47 PM
sure hope your wrong. Considering it will just be the punkin and axels from what I can tell.


Actually he is probably pretty close. There is a lot more to this rear then you might think. We are talking about a custom billet center section, 9" 3rd member (just the internals are almost $1500), custom half shafts that will handle 1000hp, and a custom driveshaft. Now we haven't even talked about all of the time and fab work to make this all come together. This is not a mod for the average V owner but for someone serious about taking thier car to the next level.

Paul

Paul F
01-25-2006, 01:53 PM
If Thunder Racing/Madman Racing has a solution to the rear-end issues of the CTS-V, than they stand to make a nice profit by selling this solution to our members. The least they can do is help support the existence of such a client base... Or don't. I won't lose any sleep over it.

I'm sorry but did I miss something??? Someone fill me in here. :confused:

Paul

Florian
01-25-2006, 02:34 PM
I would suspect youll get takers @ 5K/per. But youll do a land office business at 3-3.5K. (I will be one of them either way)

Thanks again for the hard work...I still have to talk to you folks (already hit MM up for potential interest) :>


F

427C5
01-25-2006, 02:35 PM
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ctsvett
01-25-2006, 03:02 PM
I dont know why you cant read (or search for that matter)..

Here is a madman post (pictures too) of his rear end CONCEPT at cadillacforums..

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62998&highlight=madman

Nobody is censoring anything... We just deleted your thread because it was a DUPLICATE of about 3 existing threads on an aftermarket rear diff....

Even if you were mad a nice e-mail may have solved the problem. Instead, you chose to SPAM the forum... I would NEVER do that anywhere... It is very immature.

Reed

JETG
01-25-2006, 03:24 PM
Ya well I was thinking kind of along the lines of 2000-3500 depending on features. Considering I know that there is at least 20-30 people that are in line for this as soon as it hits the market.

The Vette rears from DTE are in that price range depending on stage you get, I guess there will be only one stage 1000rwhp and that is it.

Well either way it will be interesting to say the least. I wouldn't consider myself the average V owner. I will put out most with this car 500 to 600rwhp. I am at 460ish with a 100shot. But have waited to upgrade the car anyfurther till a new rear comes out. But 5K for me is out of the question, guess I might have to be just average LOL

Jet

Florian
01-25-2006, 03:36 PM
How about a GB for the first 20?


F

platinum
01-25-2006, 03:50 PM
yeah right. you guys are hook, line and sinker no matter the price, and they know that too

Paul F
01-25-2006, 03:52 PM
Ya well I was thinking kind of along the lines of 2000-3500 depending on features.

A fully loaded 12-bolt or 9" rear solid axle for a camaro/firebird from Moser is 2200-3000 so we have to be realistic here.


. The Vette rears from DTE are in that price range depending on stage you get

Yeah but again you are comparing apples to oranges here. From DTE you are getting some upgraded parts in a used factory case. With the CTS-V you will be get a complete new custom billet housing plus internals, and half shafts, and a drive shaft. When they make 35,000+ V a year then maybe mass production will be an option but as long as it stays as it it will be a one off custom unit.

Paul

JETG
01-25-2006, 03:53 PM
No hook line and sinker here, I still have the original Differential in the car. So I figure I can get the dif replaced once or twice with the new unit, and wait till price goes down in a year or two. I have time and patience, and to cure my need for speed I will maybe just go out and buy a R6 and wait. LOL

JETG
01-25-2006, 03:57 PM
A fully loaded 12-bolt or 9" rear solid axle for a camaro/firebird from Moser is 2200-3000 so we have to be realistic here.




Yeah but again you are comparing apples to oranges here. From DTE you are getting some upgraded parts in a used factory case. With the CTS-V you will be get a complete new custom billet housing plus internals, and half shafts, and a drive shaft. When they make 35,000+ V a year then maybe mass production will be an option but as long as it stays as it it will be a one off custom unit.

Paul


Yep I understand the DTE deal, that makes sense never thought of it that way. As for the 9" I bought one with full spool, 35 spline axles, moser from you for 1900-2000, then of course paid for the center section to be put together, and put this in my old 98 SS camaro. I ordered most of my parts from TR. I worked on a lot of cars with STEVE FRANK, in houston.

So i understand that things are going to cost money, but 5K. I will be below average sorry.

JET

obZidian
01-25-2006, 04:10 PM
forget it...not important!!!!

yeah, we are all hook line and sinker...this is a much needed item and i wouldnt price it to make millions but to sell a million of the unit.

I agree that the price shouldn't be expected to be as affordablea s arebuilt 9" or 12 bolt. Its an independent rear, for starters, and its billet and will take more abuse that we want to throw at it....

However, the V isnt a mass production vehicle and unfortunately, that is a consideration manufactures will have to take.

Maybe it could introduced with a few different stages to accomidate the needs of the customers particular level of power.

MADMAN
01-25-2006, 04:21 PM
Damn I'm out in the shop working on the V and you guys start going crazy about the price.

If you want a price as of now then I have 65 hrs @ $50.00 an hour. I have $500.00 in overnite charges to and from the machine shop. I have $5500.00 in machine shop parts and labor. I havent gotten to the halfshft pricing or driveshaft or my time for testing. If someone wants to send me a check today then these rearends will be ready to go.





















Be patient myself and Thunder are trying to put out a KICKASS product for a very fair price. The fit and finish will be out of this world. Bear with me guys.

JETG
01-25-2006, 04:25 PM
Damn I'm out in the shop working on the V and you guys start going crazy about the price.

If you want a price as of now then I have 65 hrs @ $50.00 an hour. I have $500.00 in overnite charges to and from the machine shop. I have $5500.00 in machine shop parts and labor. I havent gotten to the halfshft pricing or driveshaft or my time for testing. If someone wants to send me a check today then these rearends will be ready to go.





















Be patient myself and Thunder are trying to put out a KICKASS product for a very fair price. The fit and finish will be out of this world. Bear with me guys.

I have no doubt about it your work is the one of the best in the business. I have seen a lot of it first hand Brian. So no biggie there, just waiting patiently. No problem. I will make sure to come by this next time in town. We have meet on several occasions, out at the track and stuff with Jeff Paris, Jason.

JET

platinum
01-25-2006, 04:27 PM
so right now it is at around $9500 plus the price of the half shafts and the driveshaft. is that about right

Florian
01-25-2006, 04:31 PM
Hook line and sinker? no way. I can get another diff from GM if I need. Id like to get a bulletproof solution. I think that MM and Thunder will be offering such, therefore, I will be in line for such. Price, I can wait until they are ready to let us know.


F

V-seriesTech
01-25-2006, 04:37 PM
So jealous my rear is virgin and your has been broken in various time by florian.

:engarde:

I got a greazy fat chick for ya this weekend.


Not sure about your ass being virgin, since your a pole dancer at the copa. florian?....wrong dude. queer :devil:

...fat chicks need lovin' too man...why do you think i let your girlfriend come over my place. :engarde:

Give me a shout,...bring that chick you were telling me about,...and lets go drinking. You can pick me up in that slow ass cadillac. SInce i'm crippled and without my ride.

j aka your daddy.

MADMAN
01-25-2006, 04:46 PM
so right now it is at around $9500 plus the price of the half shafts and the driveshaft. is that about right


If you want to rush the process then that is the price. :) I cant charge for all the R&D this is taking. I am going to build the unit and not worry about price. Once I know it works then I can price it Knowing that there will be a quanity sold.

obZidian
01-25-2006, 05:03 PM
If you want to rush the process then that is the price. :) I cant charge for all the R&D this is taking. I am going to build the unit and not worry about price. Once I know it works then I can price it Knowing that there will be a quanity sold.

Couldnt of said it better even if i was the madman himself.

Parker TX
01-25-2006, 07:16 PM
A Billingsley fabbed 9"n for a f-body with all the goodies except a driveshaft runs well over $4000. I wanted this piece for two reasons...1. I don't feel like breaking the rear diffs over and over. 2. When I do break the stock diff, my car is no longer under warranty, so I don't feel the need to spend well over $2000 replacing the stock piece of shit that Getrag produces when I can pay what hes charging to never have to bother with that weak link again!

ctsvett
01-25-2006, 07:21 PM
I'm with you madman... sounds/looks good.

anxiously waiting...

Reed

U LUZ
01-25-2006, 07:24 PM
when your shits broke down on the side of the road and gm wont warranty it this rearend will be worth 1,000,000.00 if you are like me i hate shit to break and put me in a bind...its worth every penny if it doesnt break...and it will not ...im sure i will be getting one ...

platinum
01-25-2006, 07:27 PM
i have 4 other cars. mine is just a weekend driver. no highway

CIWS
01-25-2006, 07:41 PM
I understand what custom work and personal craftmanship mean when creating a product Madman. So please keep up the good work and let us know when you have a finalized product and process. Then I'll be interested in looking at product pricing. I think you're just seeing the end results of a world and market used to mass production lines and access to prison / cheap labor as compared to the invested time of old world craftsman and the personal touch, with a little anxious frustration thrown in. ;)

Florian
01-25-2006, 10:52 PM
MM,

Im behind you on this MM, youve shown nothing but class and professionalism. Im sure your product will speak for itself. As for Dannystang, I can confirm I saw him giving some guy a lap dance at the Manhole on 5th street (was it Jamie?)
lol

F

platinum
01-25-2006, 10:56 PM
gross

mahhddgtp
01-29-2006, 12:21 AM
ttt and subscribed.

Vegas V
01-31-2006, 12:21 AM
Hey guys, I've been busy and haven't checked with this forum for a while, My rear end just took a dump this weekend and I'm going to need a replacement unit ASAP, please let's go ahead and start a list of interested forum members to see how many people can we count with, I see that Paul from Thunder is taking care of bussines as well, I have nothing to say but GOOD things about thunder racing and will be more than happy to buy from them, specially a product made by Madman, please count me in for 1 unit so I can enjoy driving my V the way it's supposed to be driven, can we get HELL YEAH.

jose

shivak
02-27-2006, 01:18 AM
The CTS-V is a limited production vehicle and only a handful of owners would want to take it anywhere near 1000whp. I would much prefer a replacement which costs $3000 and handles 500whp to a replacement that costs $9000 and handles 1000whp.

Parker TX
02-27-2006, 08:02 AM
Then you should prefer a live axle replacement

shivak
02-27-2006, 08:54 AM
But I also want to preserve the handling characteristics of the car. I think most enthusiasts want a replacement which can handle bolt-ons and mild engine work without being prohibitively expensive, noisy, or obtrusive. 1000whp isn't a concern for the vast majority of V owners and targeting it doesn't make economic sense.

Parker TX
02-27-2006, 12:12 PM
The factory rear can handle bolt-ons and mild engine work, but at the same time paying double for something that you will NOT have to replace and most likely never worry about again.

JETG
02-27-2006, 12:47 PM
I have not seen a price on this yet that last I heard it was still being developed ?? am I wrong ????

Either way it will be interesting to say the least when this comes out, as to what options are availible for this rearend. Sure hope it stay reasonible on price structure, if not at that point I will have to consider getting rid of the car. Who knows, but this might be my desiding factor and just get a C6 or new Z06, in a year or two

Parker TX
02-28-2006, 08:10 AM
Very soon!

U LUZ
02-28-2006, 08:32 AM
o.k. im ready ..:) how soon is soon ...

Parker TX
02-28-2006, 09:07 AM
Oh so soon!

shivak
02-28-2006, 11:18 PM
The factory rear can handle bolt-ons and mild engine work, but at the same time paying double for something that you will NOT have to replace and most likely never worry about again.

Would it be easy to codevelop a cheaper version of the diff which could handle, say, 500whp without any wheel hop or reliability issues? Just trying to help your bottom line here ;)

NLinnear
03-01-2006, 08:23 AM
The factory rear can handle bolt-ons and mild engine work...

I'm going to let one of my customers with a CTS-V read this. He broke a few rears when the car was stock :eek2:

PS, he's a maniac on the street

Parker TX
03-01-2006, 08:46 AM
I know how everyone feels. I don't like the fact that I have to resort to a very expensive alternative because cadillac is to incompetent to make the factory diff worthy of the Vs performance. Isn't it irritating when no matter what mods you have on the V or how much power your making, we just can't seem to break out of the 12s in the 1/4mi. I don't see how you could make much of a lesser version of the rear unless you find cheaper half shafts, but that seems to be the only thing you could downgrade. I have heard of Mallett putting a Dana 44 diff in theirs but they cant break the 12s either. I make over 600rwhp for quite a while and never broke, but looking back it seems that racing it from a high 2nd gear and usually high 3rd gear roll wasn't that hard on the diff. Its just that everyone is trying to launch at a very high rpm and usually comes back broken. Thats very hard on the factory rear in the first place, dumping the clutch instead of feathering it. Lets not forget this is a 4100lb pig at the minimum, and to get something that weights that much to launch off a t56 is hard on everything.

The bottem line is that it sucks that a very expensive alternative is the only solution. Very soon when the final product is complete, it will be well worth the cost and wait for something that took alot of R&D to produce by an amazing chassis builder and engineer.

We all know stock diffs = :wrist:

Parker TX
03-01-2006, 08:47 AM
Sorry for all the runoffs and rambles :judge:

obZidian
03-03-2006, 04:10 PM
no rambles, just truth in your words.

I know it sucks but i would rather have a rear that i can forget about it and move to big, better things.... warhawk anyone?

My only concern, which really isnt a concern but another one of my nit-picks, is the added, if any, noise or vibration one might get, again if any, with this kind of swap. I understand that there is some trade-off's one must endure, and that a little dynomat won't fix.

I really dont mind a small trade of but not a rattle box or like it the springs have been removed.....though i know this wont be the case...i guess im just expressing some of my thoughts.

Anyways, lets see her run!!! 1000rwhp is right around what im looking for!!
buhahahahaha!! Those new ET canted heads, warhawk block sure looks good with this kind of driveline!!

Oracle
03-05-2006, 11:14 PM
I broke my rearend at the Los Angeles County Raceway trying to launch. The dealer gave me the new STS rearend which is supposed to handle over 460hp but I still get wheel hop and am reluctant to race it again. I know that Madman is still working on his project but in the meantime has anyone ever considered putting on traction bars to help reduce the wheelhop issue? Can this even be done?

Oracle
03-05-2006, 11:15 PM
Is there a CTS-V club in So-Cal? I don't know of anyone who owns a V.

millat1m3
03-10-2006, 08:49 PM
My father broke the diff on his V during his very first run at the strip, I think that tops it all.

Texan V
03-11-2006, 11:01 AM
I broke my rearend at the Los Angeles County Raceway trying to launch. The dealer gave me the new STS rearend which is supposed to handle over 460hp but I still get wheel hop and am reluctant to race it again. I know that Madman is still working on his project but in the meantime has anyone ever considered putting on traction bars to help reduce the wheelhop issue? Can this even be done?

Curious about the STS rear end installed in your V...have you got a part number from the service invoice you could share?

I wasn 't aware that they would bolt up in a CTS...

2c5s
03-13-2006, 07:39 AM
Is there a CTS-V club in So-Cal? I don't know of anyone who owns a V.


Because nobody lives :jest: in Lancaster... there's a few of us down south a ways.

obZidian
03-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Curious about the STS rear end installed in your V...have you got a part number from the service invoice you could share?

I wasn 't aware that they would bolt up in a CTS...

Well, unsure if the 06 diff is the same as the one in the STS-V...

But this is the part number for the "improved" version: 15793756 Carrier Assembly (complete)-rear differential

Zeppelin
03-17-2006, 04:51 AM
Jumping on to tag along with the thread. ;)

Parker TX
03-17-2006, 10:31 AM
Not much left!

obZidian
03-17-2006, 01:46 PM
so, is the whinning gonna be fixed with this? :)

Parker TX
03-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Hell no, were Cadillac owners!

obZidian
03-18-2006, 12:08 AM
so cadillac=whining?

oh well, i can live with that!!

obZidian
03-24-2006, 03:12 PM
any updates?

Let say, for the time being, i have seen a few owners that are over the 500-600rwhp mark. It would seem that the stock rear, though it has its limitations, can hold up to a significant amount of power over stock.

Given, what or how much abuse are ya'll throwing at these rears that are pushing this much power and still maintain the rear for doing a silveradoSS500?!

No powershifting? No track time? etc...

Parker TX
03-24-2006, 06:01 PM
The rear diff will handle quite a bit of power just from a very high 2nd to 3rd gear roll.

SilveradoSS500
03-25-2006, 12:04 AM
Given, what or how much abuse are ya'll throwing at these rears that are pushing this much power and still maintain the rear for doing a silveradoSS500?!

No powershifting? No track time? etc...

I'm only pushing 370whp right now, im hoping for over 400 with my cam next week, but I will be honest, I beat the shit out of my V, I try to stay calm but its just way to much fun racing the shit out of it and driving it at a road course at motorsport ranch. I am always raging my V, honesty thats why I bought it a fast fun car! I am constantly teaching people how to drive better and i use my car as my demo... My 05 has almost 30,000 miles... Where are ya'll at???

SilveradoSS500
03-25-2006, 12:09 AM
] The dealer gave me the new STS rearend which is supposed to handle over 460hp but I still get wheel hop and am reluctant to race it again.

I just asked for an STS rear end and they didn't know if it would fit! I told them to try but they just started to put the 06 V rear in. Dammit!!! Do you have the BMR anti-wheel hop bar, contact Jeff at Specter and ask him about his Wheel-hop fixer...

Parker TX
03-25-2006, 07:42 AM
My buddy Brian just had the STS rear diff put in his car last week.

SilveradoSS500
03-25-2006, 03:51 PM
And any new's on how its working out? Did he have to buy it, if so: how much? Or was it a warranty job.

Parker TX
03-25-2006, 04:52 PM
Im pretty sure it was a warranty job.

Piaggio Pilot
03-26-2006, 08:19 AM
Just my $0.02. If you do a search, the STS diff has a different gear ratio than the CTS-V.

If it fits, speedo would need calibrating.

Parker TX
03-26-2006, 10:19 AM
Thats right, they come with 3.23s

SilveradoSS500
03-26-2006, 11:33 AM
3.23's? Have you been in the car Parker? If so, how does it drive?

Parker TX
03-26-2006, 08:48 PM
I talked to him earlier today. They installed the STS-Vs housing with the CTS-Vs gears.

SilveradoSS500
03-26-2006, 09:52 PM
and what would that do for you??? That makes it stronger???

Parker TX
03-27-2006, 07:25 AM
I not quite sure, I would guess thats why they tried it.

obZidian
03-27-2006, 12:12 PM
structurally, anything is better than the 05 rear diff. THe 06 diff has a stronger design yet it sill whines...

Oh, i have about 10k miles on mine and i've had it for 5 months, all city driving!!

I haven't seen a comparison of the two diff's but its worth a try. I will say that all of the whining is caused by the defelction of the rear gear pinion angles and the how hot the rear oil gets.

OrangeFRC
03-27-2006, 12:58 PM
My buddy Brian just had the STS rear diff put in his car last week.


Just and FYI for everyone as there was some confusion on this, they put the 06 diff in my car, the way it was explained to me coming from Getrag, is this is the new housing design based off the STS with 3.73's. It is the only replacement rear diff. for the CTSV now, as the older style is long gone. If you get a warranty replacement, this is what you get. I did not get anything speacial or different from what everyone else it getting now.

SilveradoSS500
03-27-2006, 01:00 PM
I'm about to go get my V back with a 06 rear. I asked them about the STS-V Rear end and of course they didnt know shit. I am re-fabricating the BMR brace today and im gonig to re-heat treat the metal and use a different bolt. Ill let yall know how fast i brake this one, i am going to try today. hehe

OrangeFRC
03-27-2006, 01:01 PM
structurally, anything is better than the 05 rear diff. THe 06 diff has a stronger design yet it sill whines...

Oh, i have about 10k miles on mine and i've had it for 5 months, all city driving!!

I haven't seen a comparison of the two diff's but its worth a try. I will say that all of the whining is caused by the defelction of the rear gear pinion angles and the how hot the rear oil gets.


How long before the "whine" started on your 06 diff ? I got mine replaced because my old one was wining pretty damn loud, I hope this new one doesnt develope that. With my new wheel/tire setup I have almost no wheel hop, and I have a BMR pinion support that I might put back on, but it did not stop my first diff. from getting the whine problem, so I dont know that its worth anything.

SilveradoSS500
03-27-2006, 02:39 PM
What the hell is the "whine" shit. How loud is it? Are people only seeing this problem with the 06 diff?

OrangeFRC
03-28-2006, 10:01 AM
What the hell is the "whine" shit. How loud is it? Are people only seeing this problem with the 06 diff?

my stock 04 diff had the whine, I am on my first 06 diff, and so far so good. The whine on the old one was terrible though, after about 30 mins of driving you could barely hold a conversation in the car....

SilveradoSS500
03-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Huh, Ive never heard it but most of my car has been dynomated and I have a loud stereo! Im taking the V for a little road trip tomarrow so ill listen for it!

lasstss
04-01-2006, 10:59 PM
The 06 diff is the same thing. All they did was load up the outer case with rib stiffeners. I did however buy a pair of 2006 axles. They are 1.5+ " in diameter.

Piaggio Pilot
04-02-2006, 08:34 AM
Marty,

I was thinking about doing the same thing. Any problem with installing them?

Thanks.

obZidian
04-02-2006, 02:33 PM
yep, the 06 diff's whine. It was almost 1k miles into the new diff that it started to whine.

Silverado: THe whining is the rar diff making a gear whine like a trans gear into the rev band and off the throttle. OH, just like reverse!! That kind of whine but much deeper in tone.

ITs annoying as hell when you know its there...trust me, dont look for it!!!

obZidian
04-04-2006, 01:01 PM
parker, any updates on the rear?

OrangeFRC
04-04-2006, 01:41 PM
parker, any updates on the rear?


:fluffy:

MADMAN
04-04-2006, 02:25 PM
I finally have finished with the machine work on the new axles. The driveshaft machine work is done and the shaft is being made now.

TTPMatt
04-04-2006, 02:29 PM
Sounds good Madman. Let me know we're getting tired of changing diff's, #6 just went in a few weeks ago. lol

Parker TX
04-04-2006, 06:18 PM
Hurryyyyyyyyy! :judge:

rpctsv64
04-04-2006, 08:31 PM
Parker,when your car is on the road will you post a complete write up?Is the mad mans rear going to require a break-in period?I'm just as curios about cornering as I am hole shots with the new diff.

Parker TX
04-05-2006, 08:45 AM
Don't worry about that, I haven't had it in awhile so I plan on giving it the proper testing when I get it back! :devil:

obZidian
04-05-2006, 09:07 AM
the rear assembly will be a full independent unit, right? Basically, a complete diff housing and gears, diff, driveshaft, yokes, fittings for ABS, (if necesary) axles, wheels studs... the whole shabang!!

What, no pie?

obZidian
04-12-2006, 10:31 PM
update...

Parker TX
04-13-2006, 10:29 AM
None as of yet...they are probably joyriding it around town.

obZidian
04-13-2006, 11:46 AM
well, that sucks.... typical, thats wat happens when you give your car to a madman!

Parker TX
04-13-2006, 01:12 PM
True True

Florian
04-16-2006, 10:39 PM
Hows it coming? Any news?


F

Parker TX
04-17-2006, 11:56 AM
I was hoping for an update sometime in the near future.

Torcque
04-17-2006, 12:19 PM
Yes, an update.

Curious to see how this plays out. While a rear axle solution for the V may be expensive, the ability to handle up to 1000 Horsepower is worth it I think...

MADMAN
04-18-2006, 05:40 AM
I am working on it as fast as my machinists can go. I am currently having a yoke fabricated to get away from the "cute" rubber coupler at the transmission. The driveshaft is already built with a slider built in I just need the yoke finished and hardened.

Torcque
04-18-2006, 08:45 AM
Excellent news Madman. Watching with interest. Is your driveshaft Aluminum or Carbon?

I've often wondered what the CTS-V R runs for a rear. You'd think a car with the Corvette motor would at least get a Corvette rear end but hey, GM tries to save a buck or two here and there.

obZidian
04-18-2006, 12:11 PM
nah, its i don't the corvette guys allowed to have another GM car have anything that is compareable to their beloved vette.... Or at least that is what the dealer told me when he was try to get a sale from me....

obZidian
04-18-2006, 12:15 PM
I am working on it as fast as my machinists can go. I am currently having a yoke fabricated to get away from the "cute" rubber coupler at the transmission. The driveshaft is already built with a slider built in I just need the yoke finished and hardened.

excellent. A slider-driveshaft, interesting, hardened steel? Was there any extra mounting points added to the diff housing? (MAybe this was already answered..)

MADMAN
04-18-2006, 02:57 PM
The diff is mounted with 4 1/2" bolts on the top of the housing to the original cradle plus 2 5/8" bolts on the bottom.

Parker TX
04-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Whats up on the axle situation?

obZidian
04-21-2006, 01:18 PM
The diff is mounted with 4 1/2" bolts on the top of the housing to the original cradle plus 2 5/8" bolts on the bottom.

If you dont mind me asking, what is the original configuration?

BAD FNZ
04-24-2006, 04:47 PM
Bump, any news?

MADMAN
04-25-2006, 06:33 AM
If you dont mind me asking, what is the original configuration?

The original setup is 2 bolts on the housing and one bolt on the pinion.

Parker TX
04-25-2006, 08:47 AM
I can't waittt!!!

OrangeFRC
04-25-2006, 03:02 PM
I can't waittt!!!


whats the ETA on this now, some time in 07 I'm guessing ?????

:poke:

Tudds
04-25-2006, 03:31 PM
You could probably sell your old GM rear to help offset the costs of the conversion :)

JETG
04-25-2006, 03:53 PM
Hope it gets worked out soon, going to have Steve Frank take a look at mine next time in town and see about building one.

J

Parker TX
04-26-2006, 06:47 AM
You could probably sell your old GM rear to help offset the costs of the conversion :)


Which half? :judge:

MADMAN
04-26-2006, 06:52 AM
whats the ETA on this now, some time in 07 I'm guessing ?????

:poke:

The car will be driveable hopefully next week. Now Parker wont be driving it till 07!!!!!! :jest:

Parker TX
04-26-2006, 09:14 PM
Oh yeaaaa, its only been 6 months...no hurry! *cough*BULLSHIT*cough*

BAD FNZ
04-28-2006, 02:09 PM
ttt bumpity bump... any updates? Can't wait to see how this turns out..

obZidian
04-29-2006, 10:56 AM
nah.. i say give him the keys but tak the rear gear out so it can't motor out of the garage!!!

Parker TX
05-01-2006, 08:37 AM
Don't make me come to Miami and pick yours up!

obZidian
05-01-2006, 03:06 PM
hey!!! im on strike today..... :)

You dont want to work me and my fellow compadres up now do ya?

Parker TX
05-02-2006, 08:39 AM
compadres or vatos. I ain't skeered.

obZidian
05-02-2006, 12:44 PM
'anda carnal... pss da le wuei'

Los Locoz fuckr'......

"Los Locos kick ur butt, Los Locos kick ur face, Los Locos kick ur ballz into outer space!!"

BurnOut
05-05-2006, 08:45 AM
Interesting note from Hot Rod Magazine re: CTS-V/STS-V rear ends:

"STS-V 3.23:1-differential gears were swapped in place of the stock pieces (the housings are the same for the Solstice, CTS-V, and STS-V, but the Vs have stronger gears)"

It's from a caption for a pic in an article where they are building an LS7 Solstice that can be found at: http://hotrod.com/projectbuild/hdrp_0605_pontiac_solstice_project_v8_engine_build/index4.html

obZidian
05-08-2006, 12:44 PM
interesting... but i dont think its the gears that go boom but the actual housing..
pinion angle gets all screwed up with the rubbery drivetrain and the wheelhop certainly adds spice to the dish..

but, this is just an excuse to get a badass 1000hp rear section in and go for broke!!

Torcque
05-11-2006, 07:49 AM
Bumpity bump... Update?

verbs
05-18-2006, 10:23 PM
hopefully something soon! :bang:

obZidian
05-31-2006, 05:57 PM
Whinny V owner just wondering on the rear! :) :) :)

realfun123
06-11-2006, 10:06 PM
u have a procharger for ur cts-v where did u find one or did u custom mount it im about to get a ctsv and i can only find magnuson superchargers

Stang Man
06-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Bueller...Bueller?

obZidian
06-29-2006, 12:15 PM
realfun123: EPP can install a disc in your future V with a few goodies for about 8k... not bad! It made 495rwhp in a mustang dyno with the stock motor... does numbers absolutely kill anything made by the magnuson

realfun123
07-01-2006, 01:45 PM
thanks

EPP
07-06-2006, 05:19 AM
u have a procharger for ur cts-v where did u find one or did u custom mount it im about to get a ctsv and i can only find magnuson superchargers

Give me a call at 260 244-4808. Thanks! Bob

EPP
07-06-2006, 05:21 AM
Any updates on this rear option yet? Bob

MADMAN
07-06-2006, 06:12 AM
Due to the backwards engineering of GM and their rear suspension I am having to get custom made CV joints made. None of the off the shelf units have enough travel for the way this suspension works. I have had 3 protoypes here and I am getting closer to the final product.

verbs
07-13-2006, 06:31 PM
Due to the backwards engineering of GM and their rear suspension I am having to get custom made CV joints made. None of the off the shelf units have enough travel for the way this suspension works. I have had 3 protoypes here and I am getting closer to the final product.thx for the update, keep pluggin away for us!

Black Beast
08-17-2006, 02:38 AM
Any updates?

verbs
08-27-2006, 01:17 AM
ttttttttt

BAD FNZ
08-29-2006, 06:15 PM
ttt...

Sick03L
08-30-2006, 05:13 PM
I can't wait for this rear!!

JonCR96Z
08-30-2006, 11:05 PM
Well, you're gonna have to.

r0b0t c0rpse
08-31-2006, 12:40 PM
any pics?

BAD FNZ
08-31-2006, 01:50 PM
any pics?

There are acouple pictures around here, you just have to search for them...

VELOSE
09-01-2006, 06:59 PM
I'm almost done tackling down all of my clunks and rattles. One that needs addressing and I can't repair is the rearend. I hope R&D is done soon. Any updates from your last post in July?

MADMAN
09-01-2006, 07:28 PM
The rear is done. Parker will be picking his ride up tomorrow. NO WHEELHOP AND IT WILL LAUNCH AT 4000 RPM ON NITTOS.

VELOSE
09-03-2006, 02:04 AM
Thank God or I mean Madman! :D

I guess I don't have to worry about blowing my diff anymore. A bulletproof replacement is available.

Any pics?

04ctsvfl
09-03-2006, 02:26 AM
Cost?

Piaggio Pilot
09-03-2006, 07:33 AM
If this installation is priced reasonably.....Madman will sell a "bunch" of them....

Paul F
09-03-2006, 08:14 AM
We will have the pics and pricing posted up mid next week. I will warn you guys though, it's not going to be cheap.


Paul

2004ctsv
09-03-2006, 10:47 AM
We will have the pics and pricing posted up mid next week. I will warn you guys though, it's not going to be cheap.


Paul

We're not looking for cheap - GM already covered that spot with the diff we have.

We're looking for quality and expect that the price will be commensurate with the quality we receive. (Damn I love those big words)

Piaggio Pilot
09-04-2006, 08:22 AM
cheap - GM already covered that

:bang:

Parker TX
09-04-2006, 06:30 PM
Oh shit :jest:

verbs
09-06-2006, 11:59 PM
We will have the pics and pricing posted up mid next week. I will warn you guys though, it's not going to be cheap.


PaulI hope it doesn't become a $5000 clunker :(

Paul F
09-07-2006, 09:37 AM
I hope it doesn't become a $5000 clunker :(


Don't know what you mean by clunker but the rear is going to be more then $5K. I'm working on getting the final price together this week.

Paul

OrangeFRC
09-07-2006, 10:42 AM
the rear is going to be more then $5K.
Paul


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

verbs
09-10-2006, 02:38 AM
Don't know what you mean by clunker but the rear is going to be more then $5K. I'm working on getting the final price together this week.

Paul

I was inferring that I hope it's not like the $5K clunker rear end in my car right now from wonderful GM engineering.

Looking forward to seeing the price. Just curious, what's the weight change difference going to be?

verbs
09-19-2006, 01:07 PM
Don't know what you mean by clunker but the rear is going to be more then $5K. I'm working on getting the final price together this week.

Pauludpate?

tags63
09-25-2006, 04:35 PM
Hey!!

Very cool!! I would be very interested in the overall difference between GM crap & yours. Specs, cost, etc.....

Thanks,
Paul

verbs
09-25-2006, 05:39 PM
hello........price check, aisle 3?

shivak
10-20-2006, 08:04 PM
:tumbleweed:

roadracerx72
10-22-2006, 07:37 PM
:poke:

U LUZ
10-23-2006, 09:47 PM
Don't know what you mean by clunker but the rear is going to be more then $5K. I'm working on getting the final price together this week.

Paul

what week would that be????????:eyes:

300zxls1
10-29-2006, 02:03 PM
Any updates?

MCasano1
12-04-2006, 01:30 AM
Any word yet, Paul?

I'm still on my first rear, but I sense trouble on the horizon. I ran a 12.01 at the track. Nobody can be satisfied .011 seconds off of having an 11 sec. CTS-V :lol: I was trapping over 120 mph, so the car has an 11 sec. pass in it. I'm scared to put drag radials on the car to find out.

If I don't hear something soon, I'm thinking about going to a chassis guy and seeing if I can just do a solid rear axle or something else. I think I'd rather lose some handling than have to worry about replacing rear ends on a regular basis.

Raven_CTS-v
12-05-2006, 06:30 PM
I'm thinking about going to a chassis guy and seeing if I can just do a solid rear axle or something else.

Can this be done? How much effort/$$?

MCasano1
12-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Can this be done? How much effort/$$?

Well, I'm not sure yet. I imagine it will require a reworked suspension, rerouting the exhaust and you may have issues getting the computer controls (ABS, Traction Control and Stability Control) to work right - if at all.

But, if there's no more word on the IRS setup, I'm going to run it past the chassis guy working on my TA (Jason Woods/Wizard Racing). Hell, if they build cars/suspensions from the ground up, I don't see why they can't squeeze a solid rear axle underneath a CTS-V. ;)

Raven_CTS-v
12-05-2006, 08:30 PM
Well, I'm not sure yet. I imagine it will require a reworked suspension, rerouting the exhaust and you may have issues getting the computer controls (ABS, Traction Control and Stability Control) to work right - if at all.

But, if there's no more word on the IRS setup, I'm going to run it past the chassis guy working on my TA (Jason Woods/Wizard Racing). Hell, if they build cars/suspensions from the ground up, I don't see why they can't squeeze a solid rear axle underneath a CTS-V. ;)

Keep us posted - I would be willing to sacrifice the IRS for solid axle. With a Maggie, I've got a ticking timebomb.

MADMAN
12-06-2006, 06:08 AM
We are still working on it. I had some changes made so it slowed the process down.

tags63
12-29-2006, 01:18 PM
Hey Guys!!!

Whats up with the whole deal? I really want to get the overall pictures of the rear and what the cost will be!! I'll be putting a shitload of power under my hood and would like to do something with the rear.


Thanks,
Paul

Chef
01-25-2007, 11:11 PM
Billet Dana 44

mahhddgtp
01-26-2007, 12:02 AM
Need pics of your car, Chef ;)

Chef
01-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Thanks -

Tell me about the IRS rear?

TT C6
02-08-2007, 12:12 AM
We are still working on it. I had some changes made so it slowed the process down.


It's been 2 months since we heard any news.
What's the latest?

valdeztke
02-10-2007, 05:43 PM
It's been 2 months since we heard any news.
What's the latest?

Thought you had been :ban: hmm guess not .

valdeztke
02-10-2007, 05:46 PM
Billet Dana 44


What the Chief Chef said.

TT C6
02-14-2007, 06:16 PM
Whatsup Juan Valdez!

Missed you SOOO much.

Have fun with your rear end. :jest:
The least you could do is stay off of the C5 and C6 forums on CF now that your car is gone.

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