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Info Needed Stock rear end going
Here are the details, car now has 80,000 miles. The first upgrade I made to it was to install 4:10 gears at only 4,000 miles. Never really had any issues except the pinion seal did leak but very little. Recently started making a loud crunching noise, with car upon jack stands the noise is persistent while in any gear. Slide it into neutral or press the clutch and the noise stops. Also (still on jacks) with car in gear I can stop one tire or the other and you can feel the crunch, I also held a hollow rod up against the rear end and you clearly hear the crunching. By the way the fluid smelled sour, car has never been in any deep water and is shopped when not driven.
When I rotate one wheel the other wheel rotates in the opposite direction, what type of rear end do I have and any additional information on a rebuild will be appreciated.
When I rotate one wheel the other wheel rotates in the opposite direction, what type of rear end do I have and any additional information on a rebuild will be appreciated.
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Thats a POSI differential.
The spider gears cause the other wheel to rotate in the other direction.
Rear end oil smells really bad so thats pretty normal.
The best advice I can give you is to save up for a 9" and try not to sink a lot into the stocker.
The spider gears cause the other wheel to rotate in the other direction.
Rear end oil smells really bad so thats pretty normal.
The best advice I can give you is to save up for a 9" and try not to sink a lot into the stocker.
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Thanks for the replies, my real question is with the wheels rotating in opposite direction is this an auburn or torsen unit. Because this issue just started I feel I have caught it very early so I plan to repair the thing if rebuildable. It sounds like a bearing has gone but I'll break it down as soon as I can. What are my options if all looks good to go and all I need to do install new bearings and seals?
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Update, I pulled the rear end cover and laying there was two teeth from the ring gear. On the end of the pinion gear I could read these numbers 26014589-10-41 GM 7-5/8. The 7-5/8 may be an error it wasn’t stamped as deep as the other numbers. The teeth wear on the ring and what I could see of pinion looked great and there was very little sludge buildup on the magnet.
I’ve been running the 4:10 for sometime now but I still have the stock 3:42 with maybe 4,000 miles on them. What will I need to rebuild this on a budget, what bearings would need to be replaced if not all of them? Thought I would use the solid crush ring if this won’t cause any issues.
BTW: I have access to a new set of 4:30, I really loved the 4:10 and I don’t plan to do much if any track runs but on the street would the 4:30 be advisable? Car is a M6 with DR’s now and the motor is a bolt on only, maybe 350 hp.
Thanks again
I’ve been running the 4:10 for sometime now but I still have the stock 3:42 with maybe 4,000 miles on them. What will I need to rebuild this on a budget, what bearings would need to be replaced if not all of them? Thought I would use the solid crush ring if this won’t cause any issues.
BTW: I have access to a new set of 4:30, I really loved the 4:10 and I don’t plan to do much if any track runs but on the street would the 4:30 be advisable? Car is a M6 with DR’s now and the motor is a bolt on only, maybe 350 hp.
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by ReactiveSS
Update, I pulled the rear end cover and laying there was two teeth from the ring gear. On the end of the pinion gear I could read these numbers 26014589-10-41 GM 7-5/8. The 7-5/8 may be an error it wasn’t stamped as deep as the other numbers. The teeth wear on the ring and what I could see of pinion looked great and there was very little sludge buildup on the magnet.
I’ve been running the 4:10 for sometime now but I still have the stock 3:42 with maybe 4,000 miles on them. What will I need to rebuild this on a budget, what bearings would need to be replaced if not all of them? Thought I would use the solid crush ring if this won’t cause any issues.
BTW: I have access to a new set of 4:30, I really loved the 4:10 and I don’t plan to do much if any track runs but on the street would the 4:30 be advisable? Car is a M6 with DR’s now and the motor is a bolt on only, maybe 350 hp.
Thanks again
I’ve been running the 4:10 for sometime now but I still have the stock 3:42 with maybe 4,000 miles on them. What will I need to rebuild this on a budget, what bearings would need to be replaced if not all of them? Thought I would use the solid crush ring if this won’t cause any issues.
BTW: I have access to a new set of 4:30, I really loved the 4:10 and I don’t plan to do much if any track runs but on the street would the 4:30 be advisable? Car is a M6 with DR’s now and the motor is a bolt on only, maybe 350 hp.
Thanks again
[EDIT] pic of removing carrier bearing
Last edited by FUN LS1; 01-09-2006 at 07:01 PM.
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Update: I've bought one of the 10 bolt gear packages from one of the site sponsors. Choose to go back with the 4:10's, the package comes with pinion bearings, seals and carrier bearing, seals and shims needed. also has the TA gridle with stud kit. I plan to replace the wheel bearing seals but not the wheel bearings as thier appear to be good.
I purchased the crush sleeve shim kit too, but I'm not really sure how to set up this crush shim spacer. Any help would be great, I'm sure I can figure it out but I'll take any help.
I think I'm going to order the Ploy Urethane Bushing kits and replace all the old rubber bushing. I have been looking at the LCR's and Torque Arm and I feel that I can box these in and beef up the suspension. I've been working with metal and pipe fabrication for years so I have the experience to do a very clean job, might add just a bit of weight but if it stops the wheel hop it will be worth it. I feel like wheel hop ids what got the rear end to start with.
I purchased the crush sleeve shim kit too, but I'm not really sure how to set up this crush shim spacer. Any help would be great, I'm sure I can figure it out but I'll take any help.
I think I'm going to order the Ploy Urethane Bushing kits and replace all the old rubber bushing. I have been looking at the LCR's and Torque Arm and I feel that I can box these in and beef up the suspension. I've been working with metal and pipe fabrication for years so I have the experience to do a very clean job, might add just a bit of weight but if it stops the wheel hop it will be worth it. I feel like wheel hop ids what got the rear end to start with.
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Originally Posted by ReactiveSS
I think I'm going to order the Ploy Urethane Bushing kits and replace all the old rubber bushing. I have been looking at the LCR's and Torque Arm and I feel that I can box these in and beef up the suspension. I've been working with metal and pipe fabrication for years so I have the experience to do a very clean job, might add just a bit of weight but if it stops the wheel hop it will be worth it. I feel like wheel hop ids what got the rear end to start with.