Need some input on my AFR/ TR224 combo
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Need some input on my AFR/ TR224 combo
I tried this once and didnt get much feedback so thought I'd ask again. I currently am running the mods in my signature and am thinking about tweeking it a little more and am looking for outside opinions. The dyno was before I added the TB and pully, here is the link to the graph:https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/327577-afr-205-tr224-results.html
I do all my own work so I dont mind tearing it apart and actually enjoy it. I am considering the following:
-removing and milling the heads .024
-.040 head gasket
-swaping the TR224/114 out for the AFR 224/228
-ported oil pump
-04 85mm ZO6 MAF
I realize the gains would be small but just really want to have a little more on top and in the mid range and overall just optimizing my setup. Just looking for some opinions/input on my what I plan to do.....
I do all my own work so I dont mind tearing it apart and actually enjoy it. I am considering the following:
-removing and milling the heads .024
-.040 head gasket
-swaping the TR224/114 out for the AFR 224/228
-ported oil pump
-04 85mm ZO6 MAF
I realize the gains would be small but just really want to have a little more on top and in the mid range and overall just optimizing my setup. Just looking for some opinions/input on my what I plan to do.....
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I remember your previous post on this... BASED what you had (HP/TQ) then adding Pulley, Ported TB, and the above listed mods I will take a shot and say 430s+ rwhp.... I take it the cam is 114lsa (113ICL)???
Who and how is it being tuned???
Good Luck,
Who and how is it being tuned???
Good Luck,
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Originally Posted by SideStep
I remember your previous post on this... BASED what you had (HP/TQ) then adding Pulley, Ported TB, and the above listed mods I will take a shot and say 430s+ rwhp.... I take it the cam is 114lsa (113ICL)???
Who and how is it being tuned???
Good Luck,
Who and how is it being tuned???
Good Luck,
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Milling the heads and getting tighter quench will help a lot, but the cam change will not gain you much because it's so similar to the TR 224 cam. If you're willing to give up some street manners, you could definitely go bigger and gain more power. The AFR 224/228 cam is superb from a valve events standpoint, but then again, the TR 224 cam is no slouch. Don't expect much from the 85mm MAF. The ported TB and LS6 manifold is still the restriction. Generally, the big MAFs don't show gains until you go to the 90/90 FAST combo. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Milling the heads and getting tighter quench will help a lot, but the cam change will not gain you much because it's so similar to the TR 224 cam. If you're willing to give up some street manners, you could definitely go bigger and gain more power. The AFR 224/228 cam is superb from a valve events standpoint, but then again, the TR 224 cam is no slouch. Don't expect much from the 85mm MAF. The ported TB and LS6 manifold is still the restriction. Generally, the big MAFs don't show gains until you go to the 90/90 FAST combo. Good luck.
So leave in the Tr224 and just do the milling/.040 gaskets?
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A friend of mine went from a TR 224 cam to a FM 11 cam (228/232) and said the FM 11 actually idled better. If it were me I would not go with anything smaller then that. But that is just my opinion. Either way you milling the heads some and going with a tighter head gasket is going to help, just make sure that you clay the motor before cutting the heads. JMO
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Milling the heads and getting tighter quench will help a lot, but the cam change will not gain you much because it's so similar to the TR 224 cam. If you're willing to give up some street manners, you could definitely go bigger and gain more power. The AFR 224/228 cam is superb from a valve events standpoint, but then again, the TR 224 cam is no slouch. Don't expect much from the 85mm MAF. The ported TB and LS6 manifold is still the restriction. Generally, the big MAFs don't show gains until you go to the 90/90 FAST combo. Good luck.