View Full Version : ls1 vs 01 GSXR 1000


redhotz28
02-11-2006, 02:10 AM
hi guys, i know i am out of my league with this one but i want to know what you guys think. i have 00 z w lt headers, ory,magnaflow catback,
tci3000 stall,3.73s,underdrive pulley,and in the process of putting in afr205cc, a 228/230 cam a mamo ported fast intake. nw tb, and 100 shot of juice.
what my questions is will this be good enough to beat a GSXR in the quarter? if not let me know what else i need.

firefitn
02-11-2006, 04:55 AM
Not sure what your car does for speed, but im 10.3 @ 139 for 1/4. but thats on my 03 gsxr. Not sure how much slower the '01 is. still guessing under 11.

cmking26
02-11-2006, 05:11 AM
Definitely not enough. You need to get into 10's to be close to a gsxr 1000 with a good driver on it.

MuscleMachine
02-11-2006, 05:47 AM
Depends on driver,my newbie bike friend ran only 12.3-12.5 @ 120-123 mph.There were 2 other bikes there also not sure if stock but one ran 11.7 and the other one 10.7This is at high altitude so drop .4-.5 seconds.So bad driver high elevens.Good driver high tens to compete.I ran a 12.6 @ that track with 3500 stall ,catback and lid,et streets and a 100 shot,and ran a best of 12.1 @ a more sea level track.So its all about the driver

flyin red TA
02-11-2006, 05:50 AM
Any of the gsxr1000s built after 01 should be low 10s around 140+ mph, you won't even be close. Only way to win is if the guy can't ride at all.

jaimesworld
02-11-2006, 06:00 AM
yeah, I know its not a 01 or anything but I just sold my 05 gsxr1000 and it is rated as a 9 second bike, but with a good driver should be 10's.. 9's are probable a pro rider..

unit213
02-11-2006, 07:12 AM
You'd better double your power output before running that bike. He's going to
destroy you.

Guy2626c
02-11-2006, 09:00 AM
well duh, that bike weighs what? 500-650lbs dry? Most cars have no chance against most bikes.

flyin red TA
02-11-2006, 09:21 AM
That one is around 430-450 lbs wet I believe.

777
02-11-2006, 10:31 AM
You'd better double your power output before running that bike. He's going to
destroy you.
I don't know about that. I'd say he'd be pushing 550rwhp on the juice with the heads/cam/bolt-ons. 1100rwhp is quite a bit. More than enough to run low 9's. A good bit faster than a gsxr1000. Anyhow I'm sure you were being somewhat sarcastic with that response. You have no chance dude. Unless you take out all kinds of weight and throw some slicks on it.

unit213
02-11-2006, 10:35 AM
I don't know about that. I'd say he'd be pushing 550rwhp on the juice with the heads/cam/bolt-ons. 1100rwhp is quite a bit. More than enough to run low 9's. A good bit faster than a gsxr1000. Anyhow I'm sure you were being somewhat sarcastic with that response. You have no chance dude. Unless you take out all kinds of weight and throw some slicks on it.

Who said anything about 1100rwhp. You think he's making 550rwhp?
800rwhp is plenty to run down that bike.

redsscamaroboy
02-11-2006, 10:44 AM
Good luck with your race,but i hope your not counting on beating a GSXR 1000 through the 1/4, MAYBE ,MAYBE you will do real good in the 1/8th with a sub 1.5 60ft.

My old bike 02 R1 weighed 620 with me on it and 1/2 tank of gas ,rated at 150 horse and trapping over 135 in the 1/4 without a PRO rider.

I think your only chance to win a race with a bike that big with your current set-up is a real short race. You will not have the mph to even be close on the big end.

Good Luck.

Dave

Benjamin Russick
02-11-2006, 10:52 AM
I don't think it will be a slaughter if you have everything set up right and are wearing stickies. If you run a 100shot (rated at the wheels) on top of those mods, you should be around 560ish rwhp. If the bike's owner is average and doesn't get a great launch, you could keep it respectable, but you'll still lose.

4bangermustang
02-11-2006, 01:14 PM
I have an 02.

First time out on the bike it went 11.2, by the end of the night I had it down to 10.8. that's with like ZERO exp. needless to say it was even faster by the end of the season(mainly was just riding it better). Also weighted the bike, it was only 360 wet(not sure how well the scale really is there..)

So good luck with that...

It will go low 10's/high 9's all day with a good rider....

4bangermustang
02-11-2006, 01:21 PM
oh, and if the bike is lowered, streched, gear, pipe or has power commander, it will be goining even faster...

I've heard of guys running very low 9's with just basic stuff done to the bike...

bad95killer
02-11-2006, 02:08 PM
Even if ya sprayed right off the line he still would win at 1/4 mile man anyway good luck :engarde:

peace

redhotz28
02-11-2006, 04:56 PM
this is going to be a 60-120 race. i know from a dead stop i will get killed, but from a roll. that is what the guy on the bike wants to do. still think it will be a slughter house? thanks for all the imput, but i should have described the race a little more. from what i have seen, a 575rwhp cobra can out run this bike so i thought maybe i would not have that bad of shot.

General Jack
02-11-2006, 05:09 PM
Yep, depends on driver. I raced a bad one, (I think the bike was an R1... but still 1000 cc's?), and I beat it in the quarter, by 0.06. I think it was 12.27 to 12.33.

Then my buddy with an 11 second talon beat another crotch rocket on I-10 headed home. Pretty fun night for us...

Loudmouth LS1
02-11-2006, 05:25 PM
Any of the gsxr1000s built after 01 should be low 10s around 140+ mph, you won't even be close. Only way to win is if the guy can't ride at all.

And why couldn't this guys car go bottom 10's w/ a h/c/spray'd ls1? With just a small cam and a 100 shot I went 10.4's @ almost 130! So if that bike runs low 10's, if redhotz can get the car to hook up and run a good number, I think it'll be a good race!

quiet_storm98
02-11-2006, 05:40 PM
this is going to be a 60-120 race. i know from a dead stop i will get killed, but from a roll. that is what the guy on the bike wants to do. still think it will be a slughter house? thanks for all the imput, but i should have described the race a little more. from what i have seen, a 575rwhp cobra can out run this bike so i thought maybe i would not have that bad of shot.
actually from a dead stop you stand a better chance..from a roll he will kill you especially at the speeds you are talking about

firefitn
02-12-2006, 09:15 AM
yea....from a roll you are Screwd.....Bikes from 3500rpm-redline is all pull.......your best bet to beat that guy is at a stand still.....you hook up and he doesnt.....otherwise hes gonna getcha...

Jake the SSnake
02-12-2006, 12:07 PM
Why do you think the guy wants to go from a roll??????? I have an 01 gixxer 1000 and I love to race from a roll!These things are bastards to launch and unless he is really good you could get a good jump on him IF you have slicks. Most of the riders around here have trouble getting a sub 2.00 60ft so I say race from a stop Its your best chance to beat the rider.If you go from a roll you have to beat the bike cuz all he has to do is nail the throttle and shift.DO NOT RACE FROM A ROLL ESPECIALLY AT THAT SPEED!!!!!!!this is going to be a 60-120 race. i know from a dead stop i will get killed, but from a roll. that is what the guy on the bike wants to do. still think it will be a slughter house? thanks for all the imput, but i should have described the race a little more. from what i have seen, a 575rwhp cobra can out run this bike so i thought maybe i would not have that bad of shot.

4bangermustang
02-12-2006, 12:16 PM
you''ll get killed from a roll...

that thing will go from 60 to 160 in a matter of seconds......

atleast mine does :)

1999TransamWs6
02-16-2006, 04:20 PM
I have to agree with loudmouth on this one your car will make good power on that set up. My car is very similar to yours and I went 10.4 at 132mph with a 1.61 60' and that wasnt even off my trans brake. But power isnt everything you have to get the car to work for you. Also I think going from a dig will be better for you if you hook. Also you say cobras with 575rwhp will take them also remember boosted cars on the street from a roll are awesome. So best of luck to you.

rebersole2
02-18-2006, 01:04 AM
This post has to be a joke right? You can't honestly believe that you car is going to run with that bike. My "brother" has one with a stretch and a program and it will go into the nines with little or no problem. Good luck, but race for fun, or he will be taking home your grocery money, and man does having to eat tuna fish that has been in the cabinet for a while suck.

slolt1
02-18-2006, 07:20 PM
go from a dead stop becouse a non driver can ride from a roll but it will be hard for a non rider to get that bike out

just-a-z
02-18-2006, 07:55 PM
Definately don't go from a roll! You will be smoked very badly. My GSXR 1000 pulls like hell from 4K and up. Definately go from a stop.

formulajunky
02-18-2006, 08:43 PM
lol What people will do to avoid the rath of Unit, moving this bench racing thread to the drag racing results.. ah well He can still be lock this, but back to the post, no you will need i would think around 600 maybe more unless he sucks at riding i got a buddy with a 600 that runs low to mid 11's, its all driver, good luck if you find any when your done get it on video so we can all watch it

slick1851
02-22-2006, 12:25 AM
Get some spots, and spray a 200 shot maybe you can pull away from it......

jermzz
02-28-2006, 10:39 AM
Only actually seen one fbody pull on a GSXR 1000. Took a lot of cubes and a 150 shot.

730 rwhp. Here is the vid.

http://www.blackssei.com/nick/SSvsGSXRvsZX12.wmv

And this is what it looks like on the speedo (same car) when you can move as fast as a bike with 1000+ ccs.

http://www.blackssei.com/nick/nick55-155final.wmv

Basically, you're DAYYYYSSSS away from hanging with that bike. Your setup would let you hang with a bike probably Pre 2001 600cc MAYBE a 750 if you can drive. Other then that, I think you're SOL.

Just devide power by weight and you'll know basically what's faster.

Gotta figure your car on a 100 shot with everything you said and on the 100 shot might yeild you 630 at the motor and that might be a little high. And for argument we'll say your car weighs 3500lbs and thats light.

630 / 3500 = .18 power to weight.

The GSXR with a 150lb driver is probably close to 600lbs and it has around 160hp STOCK.

160 / 600 = .26

Giving you the advantage and maybe even overweighing the bike, you're not even close. The car in the video I showed you puts probably 830bhp and is about 3600 lbs.

830 / 3600 = .23

It's still not the same power to weight as the GSXR, but a lot more comes into play, such as gearing, air drag and whatnot, but it's a lot closer then your .18

sho-me speed
02-28-2006, 12:41 PM
No chance. Stay away from the bikes until you get your car in the low 11's

jermzz
02-28-2006, 02:13 PM
go from a dead stop becouse a non driver can ride from a roll but it will be hard for a non rider to get that bike out


On the street the bike will have a major advantage from a dig. Better off to go from 60+. You cant launch like a bike on the street unless you have some serious rubber. Pluss their first gear is off the hook.

slick1851
03-01-2006, 09:43 PM
No chance. Stay away from the bikes until you get your car in the low 11's


No car should be racing heads up ONE LITER bikes in the first place, mostly a street/drag car and do that.


You need spots to mess with one liter bikes, just race 600s and 750s and get SPOTS@!!!!!!!!


Why are you only spray a 100shot? You do know your car can take alot more than that.

slick1851
03-01-2006, 09:43 PM
No chance. Stay away from the bikes until you get your car in the low 11's


No car should be racing heads up ONE LITER bikes in the first place, mostly a street/drag car and do that.


You need salot of land to mess with one liter bikes, just race 600s and 750s and get SPOTS@!!!!!!!!


Why are you only spray a 100shot? You do know your car can take alot more than that.

jermzz
03-01-2006, 10:17 PM
Why are you only spray a 100shot? You do know your car can take alot more than that.


On a stock bottom end? I don't think it's worth the risk personally.

Jake the SSnake
03-01-2006, 10:18 PM
On the street the bike will have a major advantage from a dig. Better off to go from 60+. You cant launch like a bike on the street unless you have some serious rubber. Pluss their first gear is off the hook.
Yeah there 1st gear is off the hook mine hit about 80 in first. A roll from 60 would be a bad idea.Most of the riders around here with liter bikes have trouble getting a sub 2.00 60ft w/o wheelying which would be no problem for a stalled ls1 on drs.Of course most the riders around here are spoiled rich kids with little experience

jermzz
03-01-2006, 10:37 PM
Yeah there 1st gear is off the hook mine hit about 80 in first. A roll from 60 would be a bad idea.Most of the riders around here with liter bikes have trouble getting a sub 2.00 60ft w/o wheelying which would be no problem for a stalled ls1 on drs.Of course most the riders around here are spoiled rich kids with little experience


True, however I think he's screwed either way. Can't really spray 1st on the street, even with DR's. He'll just go up in smoke. Then once he hits about 53mph, assuming his rev is set to 6700 or so, hes gonna need to shift with the 3.73s. Thats when the bike is going to go flying past him. After that hes ginna have a hell of a time catching up.

If he goes from a roll at 60.... well preferably 70 would be better for him with 3.73's he'd be right in 3rd gear power range and would be able to spray right away. His cam isn't gonna really get him moving untill about 90 anyway. if he can't keep up then, he never will.

UL LOSE
03-01-2006, 11:22 PM
Leave that bike alone and keep your pride.

underatedT/A
03-02-2006, 02:38 PM
don't waste the gas that bike will destroy you. i run low 12's and my friend has that same bike we went from a roll he pulled away on 1 wheel and started to disappear very quickly. i stopped and realized why even try don't waste your time or gas.

chirp_fourth
03-02-2006, 05:11 PM
My best is a 9.86 @ 143 on my stock gsxr 1000 in real nice weather. Ran some 10.0's and 9.90's as well, but it's 9 second bike nonetheless. If you are trapping 140's, then you might have a chance.