Predetor LS-1 Edit questions
03-06-2003, 02:27 PM
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Predetor LS-1 Edit questions Ok bear with me gang im new to this and trying to learn all i can. This site has been invaluable but i have a few questions. With the LS1 edit you need something to read your changes, will the Predator function in that capacity. Right now i just need to lower my cooling fan start temps,but i will be doing a head cam swap down the road. Ive already learned to save my $$$ and stay away from HPP3 (M-6 car) the predator looks like a good option if it will be usefull with the edit program later. any input would be a great help thanx guys <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
03-06-2003, 09:33 PM
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions LS1 Edit is not the whole package in one. Meaning, you have to get a scanner as well.
The predator is the entire package, tuner and scanner in one. There is a catch though. It is a half-*** tuner, and a half-*** scanner (IMO).
If you don't see yourself getting immersed in tuning your car, then the Predator will do fine. It is not hard to learn, and it is everything in one. However, if you ever see yourself seriously modding your car one day (427, turbo, supercharger, etc...) then I would highly recommend just taking the plunge and purchasing both a scanner and LS1 Edit.
And FWIW, I think I was able to gain a solid 8 RWHP over the last Predator tuned car that came in. With LS1 Edit you can make sergical changes to a car to squeak out more horsepower.
Good Luck,
Kevin
The predator is the entire package, tuner and scanner in one. There is a catch though. It is a half-*** tuner, and a half-*** scanner (IMO).
If you don't see yourself getting immersed in tuning your car, then the Predator will do fine. It is not hard to learn, and it is everything in one. However, if you ever see yourself seriously modding your car one day (427, turbo, supercharger, etc...) then I would highly recommend just taking the plunge and purchasing both a scanner and LS1 Edit.
And FWIW, I think I was able to gain a solid 8 RWHP over the last Predator tuned car that came in. With LS1 Edit you can make sergical changes to a car to squeak out more horsepower.
Good Luck,
Kevin
03-07-2003, 01:04 AM
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions basically yes the predator can read and display data for an LS1edit tuned car. However, LS1 edit tuning and predator tuning are not compatible. One or the other. So why buy a 400 dollar tuner just to read only part of the diagnostics? You can get autotap instead and read/record all the diagnostics and tune with LS1 edit.
Predator is like edit and autotap in one, but with much less capability than the other two combined.
Predator is like edit and autotap in one, but with much less capability than the other two combined.
03-07-2003, 10:01 AM
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions Thanks for the input guys that answers my questions I agree-why buy a half *** scanner I deff do want to get into the edit program as i have never been able to leave a vehicle anywhere near stock Ive got a set of 5.3 heads on the bench and will be tearing into the engine soon
03-09-2003, 04:43 PM
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions hey guys,
i was just reading through some post and was wondering on these scanning and editing tool.. i now have access to a laptop and was wondering which i can go with.. so what im understanding is autotap is the device that reads any problems with your car and ls1 edit fixes your problems.. is there any other combos to go with.. predatoe sounds good to have an all in one package but i read that it not as good as the to combined if planning to go with sc and other big things..what is efi live? and the other? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
i was just reading through some post and was wondering on these scanning and editing tool.. i now have access to a laptop and was wondering which i can go with.. so what im understanding is autotap is the device that reads any problems with your car and ls1 edit fixes your problems.. is there any other combos to go with.. predatoe sounds good to have an all in one package but i read that it not as good as the to combined if planning to go with sc and other big things..what is efi live? and the other? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions There is another big advantage to Edit. I realize we want more HP, but in my case I was able to get rid of surging, stumbling, car not slowing down fast enough, etc. It took about 20 flashes. No way it could have been done with the Predator. Oh, the car now idles at 750.
03-10-2003, 02:35 PM
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Re: Predetor LS-1 Edit questions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gojo:
<strong> There is another big advantage to Edit. I realize we want more HP, but in my case I was able to get rid of surging, stumbling, car not slowing down fast enough, etc. It took about 20 flashes. No way it could have been done with the Predator. Oh, the car now idles at 750. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Predator can be custom tuned for any setup. It can actually do anything Edit can. It just has to be sent in if you need to go further than the preinstalled adjustment limits. And they will flash the ECM 20 times for the same custom tune if that's what it takes to get it right. Their customer service so far is very good. DiabloSport uses the same software GM uses to program our ECM's from the factory. So it is capable of altering every possible parameter. Eventually all of this will be done over the net. Most updates will be free of charge. Essentially what they do is move your adjustment limits and other parameters where you want them. They can custom tune your timing, A/F, etc. based on your mods, dyno tuning, DiabloSport's test cars, etc. So instead of you trying to figure everything out yourself, they will do it all for you. And it's still cheaper than Edit/ATAP even with the custom tuning. I'm not saying Edit sucks or anything. It's an awesome programming tool especially when coupled with ATAP. I just want to clear up some things about the Predator so anyone who's interested can make an informed decision. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> There is another big advantage to Edit. I realize we want more HP, but in my case I was able to get rid of surging, stumbling, car not slowing down fast enough, etc. It took about 20 flashes. No way it could have been done with the Predator. Oh, the car now idles at 750. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Predator can be custom tuned for any setup. It can actually do anything Edit can. It just has to be sent in if you need to go further than the preinstalled adjustment limits. And they will flash the ECM 20 times for the same custom tune if that's what it takes to get it right. Their customer service so far is very good. DiabloSport uses the same software GM uses to program our ECM's from the factory. So it is capable of altering every possible parameter. Eventually all of this will be done over the net. Most updates will be free of charge. Essentially what they do is move your adjustment limits and other parameters where you want them. They can custom tune your timing, A/F, etc. based on your mods, dyno tuning, DiabloSport's test cars, etc. So instead of you trying to figure everything out yourself, they will do it all for you. And it's still cheaper than Edit/ATAP even with the custom tuning. I'm not saying Edit sucks or anything. It's an awesome programming tool especially when coupled with ATAP. I just want to clear up some things about the Predator so anyone who's interested can make an informed decision. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />