Automotive News, Media & Press - Pontiac Expands The GXP Range: Meet The G6 GXP




bruddah_man_matt
04-03-2006, 04:23 PM
http://fast-autos.net/news/47/

IIRC Pontiac showed this car or one similar to it at SEMA this year. It had the same absurd grille and hood scoops but I don't recall the rediculous spoiler although I could be wrong. The car retains the 270hp rating that was quoted before. Personally I think a more subtle lip spoiler and maybe a set of skirts, a small front air damn and the dual exhausts would be enough to set this car apart from it's more plebian GTP counterpart but apparently Pontiac hasn't completely rid itself of it's ricer tendencies. Personally I don't like the look of this cars grille, the spoiler or the rediculous hood scoops, but I like that Pontiac is upping the ante with the G6. If only Pontiac would offer the GXP in sedan form to give the Altima SE-R some real competition.

http://fast-autos.net/data/images/21914.jpg

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ZeeQuick
04-03-2006, 04:41 PM
The grill looks really ugly......and its missing a clutch pedal :drive:

2000Hawk
04-03-2006, 05:57 PM
Who the fuck in GM comes up with these fucking ideas?!? That shit is hideous, the hood is whatever the rims are nice. The front bumper and rear wing were probably designed by somebody from the Fast and the Furious line-up.
-Joel


frcefed98
04-03-2006, 07:12 PM
:barf:

LTSpeed
04-03-2006, 07:24 PM
Well, I can't think of anything they overlooked. It all sucks.

Please keep those designers away from the new Camaro...

TriShield
04-03-2006, 08:07 PM
Batmobile.

Josh2006
04-03-2006, 08:11 PM
looks like they tryed to alter the beautiful T/A wing and put it on there :barf:

JBsZ06
04-03-2006, 08:46 PM
I thought it looked pretty good..

At least its not boring like the G6 coupe..

270hp V6 sounds good too..

Maybe the stick shift has DSG and thats why there is not clutch pedal?

wishful thinking but you never know..

Think of it this way..

Honda Accord V6 coupe or Pontiac G6 GXP?

I'd rather see people buy the G6 GXP..

GM needs the business.

JMO but the car looks good..(not a camaro or Firebird but better than whats come before...)

bruddah_man_matt
04-03-2006, 09:09 PM
I thought it looked pretty good..

At least its not boring like the G6 coupe..

270hp V6 sounds good too..

Maybe the stick shift has DSG and thats why there is not clutch pedal?

wishful thinking but you never know..

Think of it this way..

Honda Accord V6 coupe or Pontiac G6 GXP?

I'd rather see people buy the G6 GXP..

GM needs the business.

JMO but the car looks good..(not a camaro or Firebird but better than whats come before...)

No freaking way in hell are they using a Direct Shift Gearbox. Borg Warner currently has an exclusive agreement with VAG and has licensed the technology to them and only them for the time being. Besides, DSGs like Sequential Manuals aren't gated gearboxes. They have a Tiptronicesque PRND+/- setup. I'm glad Zee caught that. That shit is whack that it has a gated 6 speed manual and no clutch pedal. WTF?

As for this vs. the Accord Coupe. Personally I don't care for the looks of the Accord Coupe all that much. IMO it's a blatant 2nd gen Mercdes-Benz CL rip-off from the rear. But the G6 Coupe from the rear is a blantant 2nd gen Solara rip off and I think the Accord looks less worse than the G6 from the back. Up front I do prefer the Pontiac front end. However I'm sure the Honda's 3.0L V6 wins in the smoothness and revability department despite being down on low end torque to the G6s 3.9L pushrod V6. I'm VERY glad GM optioned the G6 GTP and GXP with a 6 speed manual to at least give enthusiasts a choice. If I had to choose I'd probably go with the Accord Coupe V6 6-Speed but that's just me.

As for the GXP, at least GM is letting us know that they're trying. But for a few grand less and no gaudy add-ons the GTP looks to be a better buy IMO since you can still get it with a stick. Even if it is down 35hp, I think it looks cleaner than this thing. This car IMO takes Pontiac right back to the ricer image it's been trying to shake since it removed the body ridges from the Bonneville. They gave us the clean Gran Prix GXP, the GTO and the Solstice and now they stick us with this odd looking thing? No one wants an overdone wannabe Trans-Am.

TransAm52804
04-03-2006, 09:59 PM
I honestly think it wouldn't look too bad if 1: they redesigned the hideous grille/s, and 2: made the spoiler about 1/3 the size of the one pictured. Then it'd be a sharp car.

BackinBlack02SS
04-03-2006, 10:54 PM
I like it :engarde:

distortion_69
04-03-2006, 11:30 PM
I'd like it with the !spoiler option. The spoiler has just got to go.

Peace,
Josh

demonspeed
04-04-2006, 06:28 AM
That wing makes it look sorta like a G35.

BanditTA
04-04-2006, 07:19 AM
I like it, must be this site because all of the other sites this was posted on loved it. G6 must being doing something good because sales were up 30% from last year at this time.

J E T
04-04-2006, 09:14 AM
Also, the PONTIAC SOLSTICE GXP (http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060403/FREE/60403004/1024/LATESTNEWS)...

http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CW&Date=20060403&Category=FREE&ArtNo=60403004&Ref=AR&Profile=1024&MaxW=490

The Solstice GXP's engine is one of the most powerful GM has ever made - based on its size. It's a 2.0-liter Ecotec engine rated at 260 hp. By comparison, the 2.4-liter, four-cylinder Ecotec on the base Solstice puts out 177 hp. And GM says the added performance of the GXP does not affect fuel economy or emissions.

GM has engineered many engines over the years that develop more than 260 hp - but they were all V-6 or V-8 engines of more than 2.0-liter displacement. The Solstice GXP's 130-hp per liter is the highest output per liter of any engine GM has ever made for a production car.

The Solstice GXP just may give Pontiac street cred with fans of exclusive, expensive, four-cylinder pocket rockets. Two cars of that ilk are the Subaru WRX STi, which has a 300-hp 2.5-liter engine, and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, with its 286-hp 2.0-liter powerplant. Those cars are priced around $35,000. The Solstice GXP will start at about $26,000.

The GXP option is about $6,000 and includes a few other performance and safety items. Referred to internally as the Ecotec LNF, the GXP engine is loaded with new technology.

GM Vice Chairman Robert Lutz - the father of the Solstice - says the GXP reminded him of driving the current-generation Chevrolet Corvette. Lutz says the Solstice GXP he tested has immense power that comes on smooth and strong. GM says the Solstice GXP will reach 60 mph in 5.5 seconds.

WILWAXU
04-04-2006, 03:40 PM
Spoiler is a little too big.. other than that.. I like it!

WECIV
04-04-2006, 04:46 PM
Absolutely one of the most hideous cars GM has ever made. It is the bastardized love child of the Aztek and a meth addicted G35 (perhaps a TA was involved with some really weird shit as well). That is absolutely hideous!!!

W

bandit95
04-04-2006, 08:09 PM
is it just me or does it all looked photoshopped?

99FormulaWs6
04-04-2006, 08:48 PM
Well, I can't think of anything they overlooked. It all sucks.

Please keep those designers away from the new Camaro...
Are you kidding, from the looks of the concept, it looks like they could use some help. I agreee with the G35 comment, I'm not super impressed, but I'd probably pimp it. :)

11 Bravo
04-04-2006, 10:56 PM
I think it looks killer. It would make a cool daily driver.

jmurray87
04-04-2006, 10:59 PM
is it just me or does it all looked photoshopped?
yea...the hood/front look photoshopped.


Not to bad maybe some work on the front but its decent on the sides and rear.

Iroc313
04-04-2006, 11:56 PM
Batmobile.
:werd:

dgformula2k
04-05-2006, 08:03 AM
It looks riced out IMO. Why aren't they offering the GXP in the 4-door bodystyle? Too much overlap with the GP GXP? I agree with most on here the wing has got to go, and the grille is overdone. At least its recessed unlike the cheap looking GTO grille. The rims look good. I think they got the GXP receipe right with the Bonneville and Grand Prix. The Solstice is too subdued, can hardly tell its not the base model until you put your foot on the gas pedal. The G6 is overdone. What V6 is making the 270 hp, the 3.9?

burnzilla
04-05-2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah, looks awesome.... see you guys at the car lot!

phhhhh:thumbsdow




IMO, i do not like it.

bruddah_man_matt
04-06-2006, 06:00 AM
It looks riced out IMO. Why aren't they offering the GXP in the 4-door bodystyle? Too much overlap with the GP GXP? I agree with most on here the wing has got to go, and the grille is overdone. At least its recessed unlike the cheap looking GTO grille. The rims look good. I think they got the GXP receipe right with the Bonneville and Grand Prix. The Solstice is too subdued, can hardly tell its not the base model until you put your foot on the gas pedal. The G6 is overdone. What V6 is making the 270 hp, the 3.9?

Yeah it's the 3.9L.

BRIAN98Z28
04-06-2006, 02:27 PM
That car looks EXACTLY like an Accord V6 coupe, both of my buddies have them and that was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thing. ESPECIALLY the rear half of the car, take that wing off and youv'e got a made over Pontiac Accord V6 coupe. lol.

XLR8NSS
04-06-2006, 05:56 PM
The rear to me says G35 but, the side profile kinda says Accord.

Overall I don't think it's a bad car and if GM markets it the right way it could do well with people looking for a car in it's category.

The only thing I really don't care for are the hoodscoops.

ss rally red
04-06-2006, 06:18 PM
I dont hate all of it but the grill SUX.

Haans249
04-06-2006, 07:47 PM
yea...the hood/front look photoshopped.


Not to bad maybe some work on the front but its decent on the sides and rear.


All those pics are entirely computer generated renditions. So essencially, they are "photoshoped" but not literally, just created with a 3D program =D.

Best Regards,
Adrian

sb427f-car
04-06-2006, 08:40 PM
Not a bad looking car...I agree with the grill. If the grill was smaller, the snout of the fascia dropped a bit, a bit more cowl to the hood, it'd look better from the front. The rear quater doesn't look "that" bad, IMHO. I'm a huge fan of AWD now (at least for a DD, and besides, blasting down dirt roads with it rocks!) and the 6 spd would be nice. If you could get it to knock down 30+mpg at cruise with AWD, I'd be sold!

burnzilla
04-06-2006, 09:52 PM
:givesfuck

02Z28
04-06-2006, 10:58 PM
I like it, they need to do something about the grilles though.

chaman
04-06-2006, 11:08 PM
bruddah_man_matt

As for the GXP, at least GM is letting us know that they're trying

Please.....dont you think they have trying for too damn long now??? GM is fucking pathetic. GM cars have no fucking passion or personality to them...99.999% of them suck ass. The only american car company taking risks and kicking ass is Dodge/Chrysler....GM deserves to be bought by Toyota (Pontiac Vibe anyone??)...that new Camaro?? wait and see what POS they will make out of it!

Camaro Z28 Dude
04-07-2006, 01:37 AM
I like it. Reminds me of an Infiniti G35

bruddah_man_matt
04-07-2006, 02:06 AM
Please.....dont you think they have trying for too damn long now??? GM is fucking pathetic. GM cars have no fucking passion or personality to them...99.999% of them suck ass. The only american car company taking risks and kicking ass is Dodge/Chrysler....GM deserves to be bought by Toyota (Pontiac Vibe anyone??)...that new Camaro?? wait and see what POS they will make out of it!

The fact that they're making an effort to build a decent entry level sport sedan for their "sporty" brand means something to me. GM could have easily sat back and let the GTP be top dog but they actually chose to up the ante. When was the last time GM made an effort to build something that had more power than the competition?

chaman
04-07-2006, 10:58 AM
The funny thing is what the competition is for that particular car, imports, AKA front wheel drive, econo machines, everyday people movers, young car enthusisasts (low income most of them).....look at the car again. Overdone, carbon copy of whats already out there and possibly pricier....GM needs badly to get back to its roots...rear wheel drive, V8 (and V6) power, QUALITY and most important competitive prices....

bruddah_man_matt
04-07-2006, 01:20 PM
The funny thing is what the competition is for that particular car, imports, AKA front wheel drive, econo machines, everyday people movers, young car enthusisasts (low income most of them).....look at the car again. Overdone, carbon copy of whats already out there and possibly pricier....GM needs badly to get back to its roots...rear wheel drive, V8 (and V6) power, QUALITY and most important competitive prices....

I've been saying this for a very long time, but you can't expect them to ditch Epsilon altogether and just start building RWD cars from scratch. They have time and money invested in this platform and have to ride it out and make the best of it until Epsilon II (with available AWD an option) or an all new midsize RWD platform arrives. Bringing Zeta over and giving Buick a full size RWD sedan and a halo coupe/roadster a la the Velite concept, Pontiac a RWD V8 powered Bonneville/GP replacement and a new GTO, and Chevy a RWD Impala, Monte Carlo and Camaro are first steps. This is what GM NEEDS to do. Build RWD cars at the top of their ranges and if and hopefully when they sell better than their current boring, tepid FWD counterparts, GM will begin development on a midsize RWD platform to supplant the current crop of FWD Epsilon cars (G6, Malibu, Aura etc...). If they were to make this RWD platform capable of adopting AWD this would be perfect for Saab. Personally I think it would be nice if GM could move Saab from FWD to AWD in a similar move to what Ford is doing with Volvo at the moment.

However for the time being GM has what they have. I don't like FWD any more than the next high performance guru but you gotta do what you gotta do.

chaman
04-07-2006, 06:14 PM
I've been saying this for a very long time, but you can't expect them to ditch Epsilon altogether and just start building RWD cars from scratch. They have time and money invested in this platform and have to ride it out and make the best of it until Epsilon II (with available AWD an option) or an all new midsize RWD platform arrives. Bringing Zeta over and giving Buick a full size RWD sedan and a halo coupe/roadster a la the Velite concept, Pontiac a RWD V8 powered Bonneville/GP replacement and a new GTO, and Chevy a RWD Impala, Monte Carlo and Camaro are first steps. This is what GM NEEDS to do. Build RWD cars at the top of their ranges and if and hopefully when they sell better than their current boring, tepid FWD counterparts, GM will begin development on a midsize RWD platform to supplant the current crop of FWD Epsilon cars (G6, Malibu, Aura etc...). If they were to make this RWD platform capable of adopting AWD this would be perfect for Saab. Personally I think it would be nice if GM could move Saab from FWD to AWD in a similar move to what Ford is doing with Volvo at the moment.

However for the time being GM has what they have. I don't like FWD any more than the next high performance guru but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Agreed!! :judge:

LTSpeed
04-09-2006, 07:25 AM
That car looks EXACTLY like an Accord V6 coupe

I'm not seeing it... :confused: The Accord coupe did look like the last Cougar, but I'm not seeing much resemblance to the G6 myself.

I have never liked the G6 coupe. It looks like it got the back end kicked in. It's kind of like they took the G6 4-door (designed by women) and said, "Let's get some guys in here and see if we can fix this thing so we can sell some to men." Problem is, the guys just screwed it up...