Conversions & Hybrids - The ultimate LS1 sleeper . . . .

Anybody know if an LS1 would fit in one of these?

http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/b1/14/4d_1.JPG

http://i7.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/ag/0b/f2_1.JPG

Its a Toyota Previa Minivan, they made them from I think 1991 to 1996. Stock its a 4 banger, auto RWD. AWD was optional. Looks like it would be a bitch to work on though. Just imagine the look on people's faces when you smoke them in a minivan though.

that would be the biggest waste of time ever.

put a TT or big turbo Gen1/2 SBC into an AWD Astro with an Esclade transfer case, if you really must have a fast mini van. it would be much easier and cheaper. plus it wouldnt be a hideous melted jellybean

I don't think the engine would even fit. My dad had one of those things. The engine resides under the windshield/dash.

Anybody know if an LS1 would fit in one of these?

http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/b1/14/4d_1.JPG

http://i7.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/ag/0b/f2_1.JPG

Its a Toyota Previa Minivan, they made them from I think 1991 to 1996. Stock its a 4 banger, auto RWD. AWD was optional. Looks like it would be a bitch to work on though. Just imagine the look on people's faces when you smoke them in a minivan though.

be sure and paint it brown and badge it P.O.S. :jest:

I don't think the engine would even fit. My dad had one of those things. The engine resides under the windshield/dash.

You think a TT Supra motor would fit?

you can make it fit. freind measured it when he was bored one day. i say do it.


Originally Posted by KyleLs1
I wish my lawn was EMO so it would cut itself

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You can make anything fit, if you got the time and money to pay for cumstom fabrication !

Stock its a 4 banger, auto RWD. AWD was optional.

RWD?! My parents bought one of those new the first year they came out... it's since been beaten to hell and passed on to my brother. I always just kind of assumed it was FWD. I just gained a tiny bit of respect for it... mind you, TINY bit... :P

That thing is the least fun vehicle I've ever driven, stock... two-digit power, if I recall right, wimpy automatic, and handles like a pregnant cow with three legs. And I can manage to have fun driving almost ANYTHING. I never thought I'd say this about any car ever, but I'm not sure it'd be much better with an LS1... :(

I think I'd get a little carried away with the cutting torch :)

Then again, people put twin turbo flat sixes from the Porsche 996 into VW vanagons...

handles like a pregnant cow with three legs. And I can manage to have fun driving almost ANYTHING. :(
:jest:
LMAO.


you CAN have fun with two-digit power. Although burning holes in plastic trays in a burger king parking lot is unforgiveable sin.

That is just getting carried away........ AND it might be the truth it might not get better with an LS1. BUT this thread is priceless a "melted jellybean" and a "pregnant three legged cow" that shit shit is too funny I literally laughed out loud and my wife was like WTF is so funny. priceless I love it.

That is just getting carried away........ AND it might be the truth it might not get better with an LS1. BUT this thread is priceless a "melted jellybean" and a "pregnant three legged cow" that shit shit is too funny I literally laughed out loud and my wife was like WTF is so funny. priceless I love it.

That's why I'd want to do it. It would be so fucking funny to have a 11 second POS minivan.

:jest:
LMAO.


you CAN have fun with two-digit power. Although burning holes in plastic trays in a burger king parking lot is unforgiveable sin.


damn maniac xb drivers :secret2:

haha. it's in for its 6th transmission. I wonder why. I drive like an old lady. No clue what you're talking about. :flipbird:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/master__olly/whoaholycrap014.jpg

curse previa's .when your done you'ld have a gay van with a cool engine...aka "kinda gay"

olly, is that your Scion, or however it's spelled, I gotta come ride with you, where was it taken??

yeah, and hows that "new" clutch holding up

http://www.turbominivan.com/

not an LS1, but it can be done much cheaper and more easily.
(I'm suprised no one posted this link yet.)

http://www.turbominivan.com/

not an LS1, but it can be done much cheaper and more easily.
(I'm suprised no one posted this link yet.)


FWD= :gay:

Chrysler's build quality at that time sucked ass. You can't find one of those vans, I've tried. All of them have blown up, sold to a junkyard, and there they rot.(if they weren't crushed)

I just can't get enthused about wedging a good stout LS motor into something with a unibody (no real frame) regardless if it would be cool or unusual. The amount of fabrication involved just to prevent the doors from popping open on acceleration is normally pretty involved. I used to work for an old guy years ago who said it right about swaps......."You can make any motor fit in any chassis if you just have enough angle-iron and a good Sears stick welder".

well man you've heard it from every angle but that would be down right fruity. i am all about crazy ideas but that is just a waste of an ls1 motor. why don't you cut the roof mount a huge hot dog on the top and call it the oscar meyer mobile

well man you've heard it from every angle but that would be down right fruity. i am all about crazy ideas but that is just a waste of an ls1 motor. why don't you cut the roof mount a huge hot dog on the top and call it the oscar meyer mobile

I'll make it the 10 second Oscar Myer hotdog.

:jest: :supergay: :funny: well to each his own i guess. that would be pretty funny to see at the track kicking some ass.I'll make it the 10 second Oscar Myer hotdog.

Anybody know if an LS1 would fit in one of these?

http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/b1/14/4d_1.JPG
This just goes to show you that no good can come from drug use. :rotflmao: :lol:







Just messing dude, I mean nothing personal by that, just struck me as funny. ;)

That's why I'd want to do it. It would be so fucking funny to have a 11 second POS minivan.
It's already been done - save your energy and money for something better.

Maybe ten years ago some French manufacturer wanted to showcase their van so they had a fiberglass (carbon-fiber?) body made up and mounted it on the previous year's Formula One car. It looked about right and was clocked at 190 mph down the straight on a race track.

The Previa is one very odd duck. The engine sits between the driver and passenger under a hump in the floor. Very strange. Hard to work on and no space for a bigger motor. Maybe you could turbo the thing, put the turbo under the hood with the battery, radiatior, master cylinder, and coolant overflow tank.

yo olly i got a 450 today so if you wanna go ridin just hit me up

and aronz28 put id recommend putting the ls1 to better use, but we live in a free country so do as you choose.

You think a TT Supra motor would fit?



FUCK NO!

go enter the nearest demolition derby, do they have some kind of a rodeo clown type deal for them ? That'd be the perfect thing to do with it. Seriouisly, though. the thing's a piece of crap. Get a '70 chevelle wagon or something. easier and way cooler. still a sleeper too. sleeper by definition is a car that is much faster than it appears, not making a piece of shit into a rocket. If you have to have a van, get an astro.

olly

I didnt know you could put an ls1 into an astro van. That is some crazy shit. I have a 91 lying around at my house. lol. That would be funny.

YUP. a company sells adapter plates. my buddy just blew a head gasket on the old six shooter on his '94, over 200k miles, perfect candidate. already RWD, GM..

http://www.carshopinc.com/index.php/cPath/28_31

i'm up for another project :devil:

Sorry, but I think an Astro van is a bigger pile than that Toyota. I knew somebody who had a 1992 Astro that was bought back by GM under the lemon law. Also the space for your feet is nonexistant, and I could never get comfortable in one.

dude astros are not much better. maybe i just have a bias but all minivans are huge piles of steaming donkey :turd: go enter the nearest demolition derby, do they have some kind of a rodeo clown type deal for them ? That'd be the perfect thing to do with it. Seriouisly, though. the thing's a piece of crap. Get a '70 chevelle wagon or something. easier and way cooler. still a sleeper too. sleeper by definition is a car that is much faster than it appears, not making a piece of shit into a rocket. If you have to have a van, get an astro.

olly

dude astros are not much better. maybe i just have a bias but all minivans are huge piles of steaming donkey :turd:Hey now, I resemble that remark (wait what did I say LOL). It's hard to beat a minivan in terms of a sensible family vehicle. Chrsyler Town and Country ownz joo LOL. I love that thing. Decent to drive, decent to park, decent mileage, auto open doors with the key fob. Can't ask for anything more in a grocery getter. As for performance, well it will give a civic a run for it's money but that's about all I can say good about that and it has a V6 in it

two-digit power, if I recall right, wimpy automatic, and handles like a pregnant cow with three legs.

You're giving it waaayyy too much credit!! Just goes to show you that the American public (with all due respect to your parents) will buy anything (and everything) from the Nippon giant and think it must be great :eyes: .

BTW; the irony is that the afforementioned Astro Vans may be the only American company's vehicle that would sell very well in Japan :eek2: :jest: ! There is (was) a whole cult over there for the things, and they "riced" them up appropriately. Those cwazy kids! :scream:

well considering how much surgerey it would take to get the engine in the front i say get yourself a welder, learn how to use it and put it just behind the front seats with a c5 transaxle mated up. chop the roof about 8 inches etc etc etc and you will have a decent mutt with probably about 20k in parts and thousands of hours in it.....

to be brutally honest if this is your first engine swap this would be way over your head and you would just end up with a severly hacked mini van that you have to junk and bad memories to stop you from trying something interesting again.

my suggestion find the smallest lightest car with the biggest engine bay possible, so that once you finish it will actually be fun, not feel like a van with 300hp....

You're giving it waaayyy too much credit!! Just goes to show you that the American public (with all due respect to your parents) will buy anything (and everything) from the Nippon giant and think it must be great :eyes: .

My parents are Chinese... my family moved from Taiwan to California in 1986, when I was 3. I wouldn't refer to them as part of "the American public" if you paid me. :P It's true though, my family's cars have all been Toyotas until '98, when my dad bought himself a Benz ML320 the instant they came out... a beat-up old 80s Corolla and same-era Cressida wagon, the Previa, and then a '92 Lexus LS400... so I guess you could say they're on the Toyota train. My dad nearly wet his pants when I told him I wanted an AMERICAN car. :D

For what it's worth, I love domestics and imports equally, but I must say that most Japanese non-sports cars are really, really hatable... non-Japanese economy cars at least usually have some character, even if they aren't the best performers, while most Japanese economy cars strike me as soulless driving appliances. Mazda seems to be the exception, but I've only driven recent Mazdas, from a 2000 P5 up, so maybe their older ones were equally soulless... their current models are fun as all hell.

I seem to have gone off on a tangent. :D Sort of back on topic, I think the Previa was an economy-buy for my parents... we weren't dirt poor back then, but we hadn't quite "made it" in the US yet, so a cheap minivan made sense. My dad's current tastes are inexplicable... he pretty much likes showy luxury cars with some balls, but hates AMG, hates Porsche sports cars, knows nothing about BMWs, etc etc etc. He isn't what I'd call a driving enthusiast... doesn't like to feel the road. What he wants now is either a Porsche Cayenne or a Viper... go figure.

Um. I think sometimes I write essays by mistake. English major and all that... I could talk about this all day, but I think I'll stop hijacking the thread now. :emb:

The Previa is one very odd duck. The engine sits between the driver and passenger under a hump in the floor. Very strange. Hard to work on and no space for a bigger motor. Maybe you could turbo the thing, put the turbo under the hood with the battery, radiatior, master cylinder, and coolant overflow tank.

Yea, these things a POS no one likes working on them. Some of them even came supercharged stock and still have no power. They have some trick extra oil tank that pumps oil into the oil pan when it gets low but thats about the only think good I have to say about it.

dude astros are not much better. maybe i just have a bias but all minivans are huge piles of steaming donkey :turd:

astros are much better. my buddy's astro is fun as hell to go roadtripping in, and with a little coaxing, can roast the back tires. It's already GM, RWD.. and re-read the last sentence...

if you HAVE TO have a van.

I personally chose a '67 camaro because I think they're one of the most badass, sexiest cars ever made.

You get all the shitty GM quality with the Astro. Once again no space for your feet, and I can't get comfortable. At least with the Toyota it will be reliable.

Astro= :turd:

Thought you may like to se a video of a V8 powered van .

http://media.putfile.com/mitsi-van

the video has been on the net for a while and some may have seen it before but it's not a bad .

oh yeah man i agree with you on the camaro part. i have wanted a 67-68 for 15 years now ever since i was 12. but as far as the astro goes i don't know. a guy in high school had one and he thought he was just the man. it was a ratty old tird even then and they didn't ever get much better. if you want comfort for cruising, get a blazer or tahoe those are great. if you have to have a van astro is :barf: ok, but if you can at all avoid it that is even better.astros are much better. my buddy's astro is fun as hell to go roadtripping in, and with a little coaxing, can roast the back tires. It's already GM, RWD.. and re-read the last sentence...

if you HAVE TO have a van.

I personally chose a '67 camaro because I think they're one of the most badass, sexiest cars ever made.

Anything's possible, but there would have to be some MAJOR fabrication for you to fit an LS1 in a Previa :bang:


There's not much room for anything other than the stock 4 banger, however, the 2TZFZE motor found in the later models has quite a bit of potential :)


DOHC, S/C, Low CR and Forged internals :devil:

Pretty much bulletproof, it's considered the 4 cylinder version of the 2JZGTE :cool:

Plenty of free mods to up the boost, but the there are a few serious guys running a small turbo in conjunction with the stock S/C pushing well over 400RWHP :eek2:




Here are some pix of my 95 (2WD/2TZFZE)

http://www.fuelslut.net/hosting/uploads/trainhornfogson.JPG

http://www.fuelslut.net/hosting/uploads/trainhornfogson2.JPG

http://www.fuelslut.net/hosting/uploads/7chimelocohorn3.JPG

http://www.fuelslut.net/hosting/uploads/trainwrackupdate2.JPG

And an old video :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5767436130115137576



Bought it for $500 bucks and I drive it back and forth from NYC to Orlando every few weeks without worry :drive:

With over 270K miles, I plan on only doing light mods (cutout, pulley and a bigger FMIC)





Rick




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I want to do a SCION xB myself.

heh, of course its possible, just look at what this guy is doing:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645997&page=1

(honda accord with a LS1...)

Yep anything is possible LOL, how big is your wallet. I mean I like fabricating but I also like bang for the buck better. If it came to spending the kind of money some of these people spend I'd go for a new Lotus Elise.
I spent $200 on my car, $500 on the engine, $1000 for the trans, $300 on metal and about another $2000 on seats, steering, wheels and brakes. Lots of man hours more to go but starting with a rear drive platform and a car that handles good to begin with saves a lot of aggrevation, money and you are more likely to end up with something you like in the end IMO.
But as I said before, whatever makes you happy.

98 Snake Eater are those train horns? I've always wanted to get some of those for my mom's Matrix.

98 Snake Eater are those train horns? I've always wanted to get some of those for my mom's Matrix.



Yep :)


Here's a big install thread on LS2 if you're interested....


http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299167

BTW, you don't need an LS1 to make these things fast :devil:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_meHP_ZrliU