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Old 04-12-2006, 06:21 PM
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I have heard that there is a difference inbetween dynoing on a dynojet and then running the same car on a mustang dyno. Anyone know if this is factual? Reason I am asking is that one a local volvo wagon just put down 301 whp on a mustang dyno!
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Factual.

Mustang puts the car under a load, whereas the Dynojet is initera based by measuring the acceleration of a known mass.

Mustang reads a percentage "lower" but typically is perceived to be a better choice when tuning.

Dyno outputs are pretty subjective either way ... best and only way to see how the car is doing is track times.
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Forgive my utter newb question, but what is a Mustang Dyno ?
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Brand name of a given type.

Both the dynojet and mustang are roller based.
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Ah, thanks that answered the other question before I asked it
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301 on a Mustang is pretty impressive for a Vulva. That would be close to 350 on a Dynojet. You been sneakin parts on that car Boyce? Or was that Poik?

PS Sorry I didn't make it out Boyce. But I just put my dog down that day & I was not in any mood to be drinking in public. I know me TOO well.....
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Wasnt my car. It was one of the admin cars on www.volvospeed.com. 98 V70 T5M Station wagon. He isnt a HP guy and hasnt spent alot of time around a drag strip. He has big "18's on it and really stiff suspension. And he doesnt really know how to prep a car for a run. His "60ft was like a 2.6 or something but his trap speed was 111mph. So the potential is there for a LOW LOW 13 (given the weight of the car), maybe even a high 12 if he could get it to hook and not break anything.
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oh no, I've invaded Boyce's secret bat cave...

thanks for the help guys... us silly sideways engined FWD guys struggle sometimes.

ps - the wheels are 19's... :O


My goal for the car was to lay down 300whp, anything over that is icing on the cake!
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Originally Posted by the underlord
oh no, I've invaded Boyce's secret bat cave...

thanks for the help guys... us silly sideways engined FWD guys struggle sometimes.

ps - the wheels are 19's... :O


My goal for the car was to lay down 300whp, anything over that is icing on the cake!
Yeah, I hear they have a redblock to fix the sideways engine bit

Were you at that meet awhile ago in Bellingham that I stumbled upon? You'd probably recognize my car, and someone asked if I knew Boyce.
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difference is anywhere from 8-12% depending on the dyno's involved. 301 is pretty good for a volvo
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
His "60ft was like a 2.6 or something but his trap speed was 111mph. So the potential is there for a LOW LOW 13 (given the weight of the car), maybe even a high 12 if he could get it to hook and not break anything.
Pssh. 110mph was enough for the old Z28 to run 11.8x's and .9x's with. :p Not that I expect anyone in a volvo leave hard enough to do that though.

That said, a Volvo w/ 300hp at the wheels is pretty amazing in anyones book.... Definetly would see it coming in a game of tag on 405......
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[QUOTE=Tylerb59]Factual.

Mustang reads a percentage "lower" but typically is perceived to be a better choice when tuning.

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There is no doubt that a mustang or any other load bearing dyno will be the better choice for tuning. You CANNOT tune a car effectively on an inertia only dyno. Once the car is up to speed, there is no longer any load on the car, its just going along for a ride on the rolls. If you are only tuning for WOT, then any dyno will do, for part throttle conditions no way.

A Mustang for instance can put a constant load on the engine, I can hold your car a any given speed I choose, or I can simulate a grade. With my Mustang dyno I can even simulate a 1/4 mile pass that is accurate to within a tenth or two.
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Originally Posted by Poik
Yeah, I hear they have a redblock to fix the sideways engine bit

Were you at that meet awhile ago in Bellingham that I stumbled upon? You'd probably recognize my car, and someone asked if I knew Boyce.
Yup, I remember seein you up in the 'ham..

get some mufflers
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Originally Posted by the underlord
Yup, I remember seein you up in the 'ham..

get some mufflers
Back to stock at the flip of a switch, but what fun is that?
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Originally Posted by Poik
Back to stock at the flip of a switch, but what fun is that?
ooohh, cutouts, quality.


so you guys mad that i made 301 WHP?

kinda makes you think about volvos?

(asking in a nice way, not trying to flame) :tup:
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/northwest-members/486537-somebody-trailor.html There's the opinion on Volvos..
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Originally Posted by Poik
LOL.

Awesome man, glad to see some people know what's up!
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300 at the tires w/ only 5cyl. Thats pretty impressive in anyones book.



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