Northwest Members - I-5 cop/patrol update

According to Gearhed (Amy) at around 11:15 AM today, there is a "new" white B4C WSP Camaro patrolling I-5 in the Everett area and apparently is NOT the same one from the Mt Vernon area.......VERY stealthy she said....also numerous motor cops running radar in that area as well.

FYI, y'all be carefull out there. it IS a Holiday weekend so enforcement will be up for traffic/DUI stuff.

Drive safe everyone. :)

Yeah, they had a report on the news earlier that they are doing a trap between Everett and the Canada Border today/tonight... So anyone thats out and about, make sure you do the Speed limit...and watch who your playing with.

I saw an undercover white ford escort the other day in Monroe...so you never know what car the Popo will show up in...

hey i have seen the B4C cop last night. he has someone pulled over. it is very undercover

hey i have seen the B4C cop last night. he has someone pulled over. it is very undercover
That is what Amy said....had he not had someone stopped, she never would have recognized it. :eek2:

Is it the one with the split 5 spokes or whatever the wheels are called that came on the V6 models?

Is it the one with the split 5 spokes or whatever the wheels are called that came on the V6 models?
She didn't say, only that had it not been pulling someone else over, she NEVER would have known it wasa cop....said it was new to the area and looked "brand new".

FYI, y'all be carefull out there. it IS a Holiday weekend so enforcement will be up for traffic/DUI stuff.

Drunk on Easter - nice!!!! :chug:

They should put glass hood on that B4C. Imagine being the fool who thinks you're racing and pulling on that turbo "Ryan K" Moderator jerk... and then seeing the lights flash :jest:

They should put glass hood on that B4C. Imagine being the fool who thinks you're racing and pulling on that turbo "Ryan K" Moderator jerk... and then seeing the lights flash :jest:

lol :jest: :eek2:

Dumb Ford guy question:

What the heck is B4C?

Dumb Ford guy question:

What the heck is B4C?
RPO code from GM for the police package Camaro......basically makes a plain camaro into a Z28 (V8, suspension, etc) but without the badges or looks or whatever.......totally subtle. :D

UPDATE:

License plate is

482 LEE

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Yep, we seen it last weekend. It has NO MARKINGS AT ALL!!! Bastards.....

yep just passed him right south 1-5 by rest stop. has stock 02 z28 wheels on it

Seen him. Did not realize there was another one in the area though. Always good to know.

Hes also running up and down 405 inbetween Kirkland and Lynnwood. WSP has been out in FORCE all over 405 the last week. I counted 9 on the way in this morning. More and more unmarked rigs. Tahoes, intrepids, the B4C, impalas and lots of the "black and whites"

well there is word that there is increased drug running right now. me being military police we got told about that

I saw that same plated Camaro back in '01 before I came to Wyoming. Spent most of it's time in the Lynnwod to Arlington area.

Yup, saw him yesterday (the b4c). He doesn't even have extra antenae. Just the strobes behind the grill, which you can't see unless he's flashing em. The only thing that's a tip off is the uniformed officer behind the wheel. Also saw the oddest thing ever the other day. It was a fully uniformed trooper on a normal Honda bike. No BMW with lights/radio/equipment boxes. Just a plain jane cruiser bike. Ever seen anything like that? Oh, and I commute from Issaquah to Everett every day, so I've noticed a huge increase in road taxing by the WSP, and even city police depts. Thank god my truck is scary to drive faster than the speed limit!

There's been a b4c runnin around mukilteo/s everett/lynnwood for months and months. No markings at all. Plus there's a black one with red stripes I guess that pulled a co-worker over and ticketed him.

Yup, saw him yesterday (the b4c). He doesn't even have extra antenae. Just the strobes behind the grill, which you can't see unless he's flashing em. The only thing that's a tip off is the uniformed officer behind the wheel. Also saw the oddest thing ever the other day. It was a fully uniformed trooper on a normal Honda bike. No BMW with lights/radio/equipment boxes. Just a plain jane cruiser bike. Ever seen anything like that? Oh, and I commute from Issaquah to Everett every day, so I've noticed a huge increase in road taxing by the WSP, and even city police depts. Thank god my truck is scary to drive faster than the speed limit!
Possible the officer was going to/from work on his own bike.........?

I saw that same plated Camaro back in '01 before I came to Wyoming. Spent most of it's time in the Lynnwod to Arlington area.
They either de-modded the car or put plates on one from another state, I know the one that ran from Arlington/Stanwood area and this wasn't it.

If that guy hadn't had someone pulled over the first time (North I-5) I would have never caught him sitting southbound coming home. At least I caught the plate, surprised me but we were already doing 50mph from a marked WSP in traffic ahead.

Safe for now...just cuz the truck is a 6cly doesn't mean it can't fly low :lol:

Safe for now...just cuz the truck is a 6cly doesn't mean it can't fly low :lol:
I took that license plate frame off my Bird.....no need to attract unwanted attention anymore. :secret2:

There is also a Police Interceptor bullitt Mustang running around the Edmonds area. . . saw him cruising on Edmonds Way and hang a right onto I-5 South. . .

Has anyone else seen this? It's black w/ an extra antennae and those wierd new plates. . .

There is also a Police Interceptor bullitt Mustang running around the Edmonds area. . . saw him cruising on Edmonds Way and hang a right onto I-5 South. . .

Has anyone else seen this? It's black w/ an extra antennae and those wierd new plates. . .
Sounds like a confiscated WSP car. :nod:

Also a white Corvette WSP car down near Tacoma...

Also a white Corvette WSP car down near Tacoma...
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I've heard WSP has a few confiscated porsches and vipers as well. Hmmm would getting a set of Law Enforcement Memorial plates help at all when getting pulled over? :D I mean my brother is a cop so I have a "reason"

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vs/specialtyplates/lem1.jpg

I've heard WSP has a few confiscated porsches and vipers as well. Hmmm would getting a set of Law Enforcement Memorial plates help at all when getting pulled over? :D I mean my brother is a cop so I have a "reason"

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vs/specialtyplates/lem1.jpg
No more then the "I support Law Enforcement" stickers or whatever......."most" of the people who have those don't have any direct relations to LE and only have them to try to get outta tickets. :(

About two years ago I saw a Mercury Marauder WSP near Arlington. Kinda a funny story how I "ran" into him. I was on my way home from a not so good day of work in the 4 banger car and this bonehead in an integra kept trying to mess with me. I wasnt in the mood and traffic wasnt thin enough to even try anything but he kept getting next to me and flooring it and then letting off.
Well finally I had enough of his crap and there was nobody in front of me so the next time he tried messing with me I downshifted to 4th and banged 5th and kept going till about 110-120 when off in the distance I see the backend of the marauder. At first I was like that could be a UC stater but then I made it out to be a marauder.
So I just let off and coasted back down to closer to the speed limit knowing I proved my point to acura-boy instead of nailing the brakes. I got up closer to the marauder and saw the lights in the back window and that busted feeling came over me (you know the one). Well I cruised up slowly next to him trying to look like I was interested in the car and gave him a thumbs up.
He gave me a pretty dirty look at first but then it turned into an almost smile and low and behold he got off the freeway at the next ramp. I havent seen that car since.

Saw a maroon Dodge Durango (just like RJ's) with extremely dark tint (must have been 5%) on 522 / 405 today.

this B4C cop is pulling people over all the time. everyday i see he has someone pulled over day on my way to and from work.

this B4C cop is pulling people over all the time. everyday i see he has someone pulled over day on my way to and from work.
Well.............he IS a traffic officer..........kinda pretty much that is his job. :shrug:

Those unmarked are supposively being used against wreckless/agressive drivers only, not just normal traffic stops, at least according to everything I've heard that "justifies" all the unmarked WSP cars.

No more then the "I support Law Enforcement" stickers or whatever......."most" of the people who have those don't have any direct relations to LE and only have them to try to get outta tickets. :(

well it was worth a shot :chug:

Those unmarked are supposively being used against wreckless/agressive drivers only, not just normal traffic stops, at least according to everything I've heard that "justifies" all the unmarked WSP cars.
It is like the CHP "alternately colored" cars......they were primarily for commercial enforcement (18 wheelers) but as they say, "Don't be surprised if they see 18 wheels under your car when it is going 80+" :angel:

I have seen a maroon Tahoe on I-90 with dark tint too. You can just barely see the shotgun mount and lights through the back. It does have lots of antennas on it though. I only saw it once on the way out to Tripple XXX.

the camaro cop should have a marked license plate, because no cop can be completely covered dont they at least need a marked city license plate?

Nope. They've been using non exempt 123-ABC plates here for a while.

Used to be you could look for the 123-WSP but not anymore.

I even saw an old Chev Astrovan a few years ago. Sorta makes you wonder what they'll use next.

the camaro cop should have a marked license plate, because no cop can be completely covered dont they at least need a marked city license plate?
Nope. They can use "regular" plates on unmarked cars.

Just curious, what did you mean by "no cop can be completely covered"??? Do you mean insurance or?
Used to be you could look for the 123-WSP but not anymore.
Yup, they only use those on the marked cars and the obvious unmarked (supervisors, etc) ones now. :D

no i mean dont they have to have some sort of identification that they are a cop? like the cant be completely clear. i guess i just worded it stupid

Nope. They can use "regular" plates on unmarked cars.

Just curious, what did you mean by "no cop can be completely covered"??? Do you mean insurance or?

Yup, they only use those on the marked cars and the obvious unmarked (supervisors, etc) ones now. :D

yeah... oh well... when I'm paying attention I seem to get pretty lucky and when I'm not the escort usually gives me enough warning http://www.sccow.com/joshs/lookaround.gif

no i mean dont they have to have some sort of identification that they are a cop? like the cant be completely clear. i guess i just worded it stupid
Nope. Unmarked cars are unmarked so that people don't know they are cop cars. ;) Some States have regulations about what they can be used for and how they have to be marked if they are used for certain things......but for the most part, they don't have to obviously be a cop car. :D

wouldnt they have to have a state or city license plate though? every cop around here even my friends dads undercover exploder has marked license plates, you cant tell they are marked, but they have like state of blah blah blah sheriff

wouldnt they have to have a state or city license plate though? every cop around here even my friends dads undercover exploder has marked license plates, you cant tell they are marked, but they have like state of blah blah blah sheriff
Nope. Undercover/unmarked cars get "normal" plates. Doesn't make any sense to have an undercover car and use a plate that says they are cops. :eek2:

yea but like local cops have CTY 555 ya know, i guess it doesnt really matter, because if you can tell they are a cop its gonna be too late anyways.

We've had a few incidents of "fake" cops pulling people over in this area and bad stuff happening as a result. If there's no way to validate whether or not the car trying to pull me over is real or not, why am I obligated to pull over at all?

I think safety is important over anything else (not just traffic safety), and really feel this covert numbskull type of thing can make for serious trouble.

We've had a few incidents of "fake" cops pulling people over in this area and bad stuff happening as a result. If there's no way to validate whether or not the car trying to pull me over is real or not, why am I obligated to pull over at all?

I think safety is important over anything else (not just traffic safety), and really feel this covert numbskull type of thing can make for serious trouble.
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me and my boss had a discussion about this same topic. I was pulled over on I-90 in issaquah by a green tahoe, factory everything, except tinted windows. I cruised right past him at 80 and he was int the carpool lane doing about 70. After I passed him he whipped in behind me with lights on and I was like WTF! Ive seen him a few times now and it looks totally stock, wheels and all. The plates are normal civilian plates too, nothin special about them and Ive seen them up close. The ONLY way you can tell it is a cop, if it you can look through the rear window and the radar on it is next to the rear view mirror.

MY boos got pulled over by one in Snoqualmie(Ridge) it was burgundy, same deal as the other one, but it was a Snoqualmie city cop. I was in the van with him.

Anyhow, he always says that if you see it is not marked or a regular cop car, dont pull over. wait till they bring a real cop car and then bitch about it in court if they try and cuff ya.

Its easy enough to impersonate a cop, Ive done it, in my old 89 chev pickup afew years ago. It was VERY stupid, but I never got caught and will never do it again. But I got this kid in a civic going 60 in a 35...lol chased him down with the strobes on and pulled him over.....but I just floored it and flew by.

I would think there would be "safety" issues involved but the judge would expect you to have pulled over anyway and then ask for the cops credentials, which -- correct me if I'm wrong rot -- I believe they are required to show if you ask.

yea but like local cops have CTY 555 ya know, i guess it doesnt really matter, because if you can tell they are a cop its gonna be too late anyways.
Obviously SD has different laws then most other places. :shrug:
We've had a few incidents of "fake" cops pulling people over in this area and bad stuff happening as a result. If there's no way to validate whether or not the car trying to pull me over is real or not, why am I obligated to pull over at all?

I think safety is important over anything else (not just traffic safety), and really feel this covert numbskull type of thing can make for serious trouble.
Ok here is the deal..........you are required to stop for red lights/blue lights (whatever your State uses) BUT if it is a completely unmarked car and you are unsure, you are still required to stop but you have 3 options......

1) Pull over where you are
2) Slow down, make it OBVIOUS that you are not "running" and pull over in a place you feel is safe (guys have a harder time with this one then females as we don't generally get raped) like a gas station, public/busy area
3) Call 911 on your cell (as you are slowing down and making it obvious that you are not running) and get them to either confirm it or have them send a marked unit out. Try to remember that where most of us are, there are numerous Agencies working and the dispatcher you call (on 911) may have NO idea if the car behind you is legit or not, but that doesn't mean they are fake. In that case, they will send a marked car out to investigate.

The "fake undercover" guys always get a few then people get freaked then the idiot usually ends up either trying to stop an off-duty or undercover cop or he is seen on a "stop" by a real cop and they end his fun real quick. Those guys fuck it up for everyone and need to be nut-kicked repeatedly by angry bull-dyke lesbians. :D
I would think there would be "safety" issues involved but the judge would expect you to have pulled over anyway and then ask for the cops credentials, which -- correct me if I'm wrong rot -- I believe they are required to show if you ask.
You are correct on both counts Howard...the judge will have expected you to stop and you are allowed to ask to see his ID card...HOWEVER, he is not required to hand it to you (so that you are holding it), give you enough time to read War & Peace with it or stand there for 30 minutes debating the legality of unmarked traffic enforcement........3 really good ways to get more shit added to your ticket. ;)

Cops are required to show you their ID cards if asked for, but again, don't expect them to hand them to you or stand there for 5 minutes while some side-of-the-road expert tries to determine if they are real........chances are, if the guy climbing out of the unmarked car has a full uniform on, he is a real cop.....if you are that concerned about it, use your cell phone, call 911 (it's a free call ya cheap bastards ;) ) and find out for sure. But not stopping is a piss-poor idea in case anyone was wondering. ;)

We've had a few incidents of "fake" cops pulling people over in this area and bad stuff happening as a result. If there's no way to validate whether or not the car trying to pull me over is real or not, why am I obligated to pull over at all?

I think safety is important over anything else (not just traffic safety), and really feel this covert numbskull type of thing can make for serious trouble.

Thats actually a really good point which brought another safety issue I recently encountered with the SP to mind. Twice now I have been waved at to pull over by a motorcycle cop not anywhere near his bike just after he ticketed someone on the flats on I5 between Everett and Marysville. He was standing there half in my lane, I should have hit him, lol. Anyway both times I just kept on going. I figured if he is too lazy to get on his damn bike and get me, Im not stoppin.
Well then I saw one wave over someone else near Smokey Point and the person he waved over damn caused an accident trying to pull over. Man I dont know about the damn cops around here.

Thats actually a really good point which brought another safety issue I recently encountered with the SP to mind. Twice now I have been waved at to pull over by a motorcycle cop not anywhere near his bike just after he ticketed someone on the flats on I5 between Everett and Marysville. He was standing there half in my lane, I should have hit him, lol. Anyway both times I just kept on going. I figured if he is too lazy to get on his damn bike and get me, Im not stoppin.
Well then I saw one wave over someone else near Smokey Point and the person he waved over damn caused an accident trying to pull over. Man I dont know about the damn cops around here.
Motor cops are notoriously lazy fucks........just hope one doesn't decide to jump on his bike and come after ya if you ignore his lawful order (the wave over)....if he stops you, no chance of talking your way outta that one. He had to work. :lol:

I feel for anyone getting hurt on a motorcycle, but sometimes, when you hear stories of stupid people flagging you down in the middle of the street, it is no wonder to me that so many motorcycle cops are getting hit these days.

Motor cops are notoriously lazy fucks........just hope one doesn't decide to jump on his bike and come after ya if you ignore his lawful order (the wave over)....if he stops you, no chance of talking your way outta that one. He had to work. :lol:

Ya no kidding. I would just play dumb and make my contribution to his quota.

Motor cops are notoriously lazy fucks........just hope one doesn't decide to jump on his bike and come after ya if you ignore his lawful order (the wave over)....if he stops you, no chance of talking your way outta that one. He had to work. :lol:

Just be friendly and wave hello back to him. ;)

Nice day isn't it officer! :wave-fing

also wouldn't the unmarked cars still have exempt plates on them? that's about the only way to tell for sure.

also wouldn't the unmarked cars still have exempt plates on them? that's about the only way to tell for sure.
Nope. They stopped doing that ages ago........too many people caught on. ;)

Nope. They stopped doing that ages ago........too many people caught on. ;)

Hmm, I still see them with exempt plates, maybe it's just the sneaker WSP cars have this still and not the ultra sneaky B4C's and suburbans and such??

Hmm, I still see them with exempt plates, maybe it's just the sneaker WSP cars have this still and not the ultra sneaky B4C's and suburbans and such??
Sorry, should have clarified....they stopped using them on ALL cars and now use "normal" plates on a lot of the unmarkeds for the reason that it was too easy to spot them.

Sorry, should have clarified....they stopped using them on ALL cars and now use "normal" plates on a lot of the unmarkeds for the reason that it was too easy to spot them.

Well, I saw a normal WSP with x-mas lights on top and it no tabs on the rear license plate. Just empty spots where the tabs should be.

I'm confused, it doesn't happen very often! ;) Are we talking about the "WSP" that used to be part of the plate number or license tabs?? I'm talking about license tabs, or lack thereof, on the WSP license plates.

Well, I saw a normal WSP with x-mas lights on top and it no tabs on the rear license plate. Just empty spots where the tabs should be.

I'm confused, it doesn't happen very often! ;) Are we talking about the "WSP" that used to be part of the plate number or license tabs?? I'm talking about license tabs, or lack thereof, on the WSP license plates.
Up here I have seen plates on cop cars that actually say "XMPT" or similar on them........the WSP cars with the "123 WSP" license plates but I haven't paid any attn to tabs on any them.

For reference, in Cali we never had tabs (month or year) on any of our "exempt" or marked cars.

Up here I have seen plates on cop cars that actually say "XMPT" or similar on them........the WSP cars with the "123 WSP" license plates but I haven't paid any attn to tabs on any them.

For reference, in Cali we never had tabs (month or year) on any of our "exempt" or marked cars.

Exactly my point. So if you have a keen eye you can spot a stater by the lack of tabs and "Exempt" in that area where the tabs should be. Of course, this only works if you are behind them.

Exactly my point. So if you have a keen eye you can spot a stater by the lack of tabs and "Exempt" in that area where the tabs should be. Of course, this only works if you are behind them.
But those are generally on the MARKED cars.....they stopped using the XMPT plates on the unmarked ones a while ago. Doesn't take THAT keen of an eye to spot a WSP marked car. ;) :jest:

But those are generally on the MARKED cars.....they stopped using the XMPT plates on the unmarked ones a while ago. Doesn't take THAT keen of an eye to spot a WSP marked car. ;) :jest:

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Well I saw a new one today. A black Hemi Magnum. It does have lights and the WSP lettering and logo on the side but you can barely see it because its black. So if you see a black Magnum in your rearview with a ski-rack, that just might not be a ski-rack. :eek2:

i havn't seen the B4C around everett lately

Well I saw a new one today. A black Hemi Magnum. It does have lights and the WSP lettering and logo on the side but you can barely see it because its black. So if you see a black Magnum in your rearview with a ski-rack, that just might not be a ski-rack. :eek2:
Damn, sounds like a nice car. :D

I was cruising on the 5 yesterday and just thinking how nice, no cops...then I remembered all their sneaky stuff and was glad I had my cruise set at 62.....just in case. ;)

Doooood.

Snohomish County Sherrif have a white Jeep Wrangler around Marysville/ I was a few bus lengths behind when he decided to pull a car over last night.

By the time I passed him sure enough there was the vinyl on the side clear as day however you won't see that if he's behind you. :(

Doooood.

Snohomish County Sherrif have a white Jeep Wrangler around Marysville/ I was a few bus lengths behind when he decided to pull a car over last night.

By the time I passed him sure enough there was the vinyl on the side clear as day however you won't see that if he's behind you. :(
I got pulled over by a Sno County Sgt in a White Tahoe type vehicle last summer........sneaky lil buggers. ;)

I feel for anyone getting hurt on a motorcycle, but sometimes, when you hear stories of stupid people flagging you down in the middle of the street, it is no wonder to me that so many motorcycle cops are getting hit these days.
Don't have the report from south to Salem yet (John is on his way back from a 3 day trip) but he did say he was glad he kept the cruise at speed limit. Unmarked cops all over Oly the way down, not sure about the way back.

As per the motorcycle cops...from Northgate to *finally* Ballinger Way there were two cycle cops riding side by side SORTA in one lane - yelling at eachother - having a conversation - and people are freaking out damn near crashing because these two were in and out of THREE LANES while wobbling from lane two to one to three...

I'd had enough and actually "waved" them over, chewed them a new one for causing a "traffic hazzard and distraction" which, ironically enough, is illegal through that area. I had called 911 when I flagged them over, operator didn't know what to make of it until I asked for the Watch Commander.duh.helllllllllloooooo.yer new, aren't ya.

As the moto-cops pull into a lot and see me on a cell phone they wonder what is seriously wrong - well boys, ITS YOU! Guess who is on the phone? Uh...you might want to listen to your radios YOU HAD TURNED DOWN while having a yelling conversation for miles scaring the fuck out of everyone in every lane so they didn't drive over your asses.
helllllllooooooo?

One takes off muttering something about "stupid drivers..not worth MY time" but I already read his cycle number back to the WC and told him what the cop just said. Then I see said cop pull out, blinker to the left then go straight over to the Chevron station and get on his radio. Wonder who was on the other end?

The cop that stayed tried to tell me there was nuthin' wrong with what they were doing.
ME: "So, if one of the drivers wasn't paying full attention or just freaked and made your entire body road rash road kill, you wouldn't care?"

Cop: "I should arrest you for saying that"

Me: "Answer your radio. I think someone wants to talk to you" (as the line was still open to the WC who was listening)

Cop: "Riiiiiiiiiight. You want to step out of the vehicle now?"

Me: "Nope. You have someone to talk to first. Seriously. The Watch Commander is ON MY CELL PHONE NOW."

The cop looked a little surprised and sorta like he just swallowed a bad fish taco at the same time. He walks over to his bike, hooks up to the radio and seems to be having a rather animated conversation with someone...waves me off as in "go away! I'm not gonna be able to sit down for a week after this cuz I'm getting my butt chewed off right now!"

Uh, ok. I'll leave. Inflicting my pain on you is done ;)

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nice.

Not quite a citizens arrest but...close enough ;)

we have 2 chargers running around, white but VERY noticeable big light bar on top and cattle guards on them...they seem to like to follow me around EVERYWHERE so i take 4 right turns when they do

...they seem to like to follow me around EVERYWHERE so i take 4 right turns when they do

Ya know...two wrongs don't make a right....but three lefts do :P

Well, it's that time of the month again, take it easy out there, they're out in force again.