Drag Racing Tech - How about a $1000 recipe? Come on in.......

I'd like some input from the ones that have done something similar......... if you had a completely stock '98-'02 LS1 F-body with an A4, and $1000 for mods to go drag racing, what would you spend it on?

No nitrous, E.T. Streets already on the car, otherwise 100% stock....... Also, this is an NHRA Edition so it has a 3.23 gear already.

Please list your recipe, the cost for parts only (totalling $1000 or close), and how quick you think it could go.

No weight reduction other than removal of spare tire and front sway bar- this is a daily driving street car- not a gutted race car.

New part prices only please, nothing used in our $1000 budget.

Stall, lid, catback. Cant help you with times cause I drive an m6.

Stall, lid, cutout, have someone port and polish your TB, should be able to get some 3.73's installed also. :)

Um....thats what I meant...a cut out, but just port your own tb. Then you have more scratch for things you cant do on your own.

sounds like we're here........

Free mods- homeported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $90
KNN- $50
Catback- $400
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Total- $990

Or...............

Free mods- home ported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $90
KNN- $50
cutout- $50
3.73 gears- $200
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Total- $840

What else? How quick?

I would search the for sale section and try and save some loot that way.

Free mods- home ported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $85
KNN- $40
1 chamber flowmaster dumped at axle- $100
3.73 gears- $200 installed
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Total- $ 875

With just this stuff I went 11.93 @ 111 at 3420lb race weight. :)

Thanks, I'm actually doing a little research for a story on a beginners build up with an LS1 car......... so we need to quote "new" prices on parts........

sounds like we're here........

Free mods- homeported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $90
KNN- $50
Catback- $400
--------------------
Total- $990

Or...............

Free mods- home ported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $90
KNN- $50
cutout- $50
3.73 gears- $200
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Total- $840

What else? How quick?

just buy a magnaflow muffler or something ($100), buying hte entire catback is a waste. have an exhaust shop make you an ORY with it and your set. you can probably find cheaper than 200$ for 3.73's too.
i'd go....
pacesetter LT headers..400$ coated 200$ uncoated..
lid...75$ ish on ebay....
stall....$400
muffler...$100..

Free mods- home ported tb
torque converter- $450
lid- $85
KNN- $40
1 chamber flowmaster dumped at axle- $100
3.73 gears- $200 installed
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Total- $ 875

With just this stuff I went 11.93 @ 111 at 3420lb race weight. :)
on slicks i assume...

big stall, open headers, and ported tb.

and take out the whole interior except for the drivers seat

lid- 50 (on here in the for sale section)
headers and Y-400/450 (pacesetters)
cutout- 50 (summit or something)
convertor- 300 (used fuddle)
tranny cooler- 30
home port TB- free
LS6 intake- 250/300

do some weight mods and your looking at low 12's/high 11's all day long

Thanks, I'm actually doing a little research for a story on a beginners build up with an LS1 car......... so we need to quote "new" prices on parts........

Don't forget the installation prices if you're not doing the installs yourself.

All work will be done here, so no labor costs need to be included. Only new prices figured in the equasions please....... no used prices........... and no gutting interiors or weight reductions past removing front sway bar and spare tire and jack......... I don't want this project to take on a "ricey" approach.......
:funny:

Weight reduction in the correct way is not ricey. The lighter a car is, the easier it is on parts

That's obvious, but this project will not include any compromises to the vehicles comfort, integrity, or structure.

All work will be done here, so no labor costs need to be included. Only new prices figured in the equasions please....... no used prices........... and no gutting interiors or weight reductions past removing front sway bar and spare tire and jack......... I don't want this project to take on a "ricey" approach.......
:funny:
thats not ricey. losing is ricery

Everyone has their own opinion, but to me, when you gut the interior of a perfectly good street car, that's ricey. Everyone has a line they won't cross in search of E.T., and I have no interest in gutting the interior out in search of .10-.15............. not in the plan here, never will be.

4500+ stall-$400 from fuddle or some used brand
4.11 gears -$100 used
TRex cam and install shit- $500 bucks

Lose the spare, jack, carpet, back seat, passenger seat, door panels, dash, center console, front and rear bumper supports, washer resevoir, ac, p/s, heater, speakers, sway bar, abs, run donut tires up front, 1/10th a tank of gas, wash your car before you go, where lightweight clothes, shave your head and take a shit before you go to the track.

I'd say you'd touch the 10s, or get damn close.

I don't think comfort or vehicle integrity belongs anywhere near a drag car.

A light weight car is a damn fast car.

I smell a magazine article....????

stall-450
lid-90
Pacesetter LT's-300
free mods-free
LCA's and brackets-200

Thats 1,040 and would make the car move pretty well I think.

on slicks i assume...

On 28/12.50-15 ET Streets, which are the same size as a 28/10.50-15 ET Drag

Everyone has a line they won't cross in search of E.T.


not me, CUT THAT BITCH UP!!!!

I would have to say

4000+ stall
at least 4.10's
cutout
lid
homemade big gulp


port the stock manifolds
port tb
send your car to jenny craig

not me, CUT THAT BITCH UP!!!!


i have a line i won't cross, but still cannot find it. As long as it looks stock on the interior, it is a stock car right?

Screw stock looking. As long as there is somewhere for me to sit I'm game.

Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids.........

Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids.........

Girlfriend and comfy 4 door daily drivers :jest:

Nope I'm 20 and gotta girlfriend. I find the more shit I pull out, the less I drive, the more money I have to spend on my car. It's a continuous cycle.

Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids.........

The failure here is on your part. You failed to very specifically spell out your goals.

Your original statement was simply, $1000 for parts, and how fast would it go? That infers you wanted to go as fast as possible for no more than $1000. Weight reduction is a very good way of going as fast as possible.

Then you say it's for "a little research for a story on a beginners build up with an LS1 car".

Then "Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids........."

Get your own story straight first, and make it plain and clear what you're trying to obtain, and the responses will be far more useful to you.

And a racing dedicated car could see upwards of 400lbs weight reduction, more if you get really serious about it. That's worth far more than a tenth of a second, upwards of half a second or more.

Of course, you never specified how far you wanted to go. You got answers to the question you asked, and they've all been good answers as well. They aren't the answers you wanted because you didn't specify what you wanted accurately enough.

And I fail to see what wife and kids have to do with drag racing. I'm quite positive there are plenty of guys here with wives and kids.

isn't this for a race mod for mod($1000 each) against an evo?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489814

are u the camaro driver by any chance?

Free Mods-EGR, AIR, Port TB, etc...
3500+ stall- $400
Pace setter LT's-$275
4:10 gears-$100
Lid-$80
Cutout- $50 OR go over budget by $100 and go the preferred method of 3" True Duals-$250 on ebay new.

Good Driver- PRICELESS!!!

This car would scream.... ;)

Port your throttlebody - Free
3600-4000 stall - $400
Tranny Cooler - $50-$60
Lid - $80-ish
Cutout - $40 + installation is probably 1 hour at anywhere from $40-$60 ($100-ish)
Tuning for added parts and convertor - varies ($200-ish?)
ASP Pulley - $150-ish shipped (I sold mine for $135 shipped last week).

Those are the real world prices. You have to take into consideration extra's like the tranny cooler and installation of the cutout. With et streets already on the car though, that's a low 12 sec car. Tuning with a convertor and added mods would be worth it to go ahead and do for me.. because most places will offer you 1 free year of updates, so when you get another thousand to throw headers and an ls6 intake in, you'll already be ready.

Peace,
Josh

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489814

are u the camaro driver by any chance?

No, that's not us........

The failure here is on your part. You failed to very specifically spell out your goals.

Your original statement was simply, $1000 for parts, and how fast would it go? That infers you wanted to go as fast as possible for no more than $1000. Weight reduction is a very good way of going as fast as possible.

Then you say it's for "a little research for a story on a beginners build up with an LS1 car".

Then "Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids........."

Get your own story straight first, and make it plain and clear what you're trying to obtain, and the responses will be far more useful to you.

And a racing dedicated car could see upwards of 400lbs weight reduction, more if you get really serious about it. That's worth far more than a tenth of a second, upwards of half a second or more.

Of course, you never specified how far you wanted to go. You got answers to the question you asked, and they've all been good answers as well. They aren't the answers you wanted because you didn't specify what you wanted accurately enough.

And I fail to see what wife and kids have to do with drag racing. I'm quite positive there are plenty of guys here with wives and kids.

Sorry, I am not used to anyone wanting to gut a car like this so I didn't expect it. I've never seen a "beginner" take a perfectly good LS1 car and start stripping it for weight, that's more for the advanced racer looking for every tenth.

The comment about wife and kids is because no seats and carpet make it pretty difficult to take the car out for ice cream.....

Well if you're looking for a COMFORTABLE car for a grand, I'd say do the following
Fuddle 4000 converter-$400 bucks
Ls6 Itake-$300 (used)
Lid and cutout-$100
Used 3.73 or 3.42 gears-$100

If you pull the carpet out, you can spray in some DIY bedliner from Autozone. Its like 15 bucks for 2 cans. Looks great and its scratch proof. Put the seats back in, looks stock with the floormats in. Saves about 50lbs and if the kids spill ice cream you can just bring out the hose!

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489814

are u the camaro driver by any chance?


if so he's gonna get his a$$ beat by the evo. don't mess with turbo cars on low budget modding

there is a difference with race weight and street weight my street weight is probably like 3550 lbs and my race weight which take about 1/2 hr is 3365 worth about 20hp for only 1/2 worth of work, worth it in my opinion

Obviously, you guys don't have a wife and kids.........


yep, sure do, car is too loud for them to ride in anyways.