Street Racing & Kill Stories - i want to beat an r6

ive got bolt ons in my sig, what else? think wild cam, polished stock heads, ls6 intake, headers and a 75 shot would do it? ive always been faster than my buddy...he got a turbo talon and i got a specv, he got upgraded turbo and i got ls1 z28 and now hes got a bike.....i dont want a bike :nono:

haha, i dont even bother with bikes, most of them are just way to fast. Maybe like a 300 Shot will get you there.

i must beat him...hes rubbing it in everyday :( . i know there is no way im keeping up off the line but on the highway is a different story.

my brother just ran an 11.00 at 135 at the track wednesday night :eek2: on his STOCK 03 gsxr 750, they r just too fast...

i must beat him...hes rubbing it in everyday :( . i know there is no way im keeping up off the line but on the highway is a different story.
Your friend is an idiot. Cars and bikes are like comparing apples and cheeseburgers. Nowhere near worth comparing.

The bike will wax you from any speed, dig, or roll.

my brother just ran an 11.00 at 135 at the track wednesday night :eek2: on his STOCK 03 gsxr 750, they r just too fast...

mmk nevermind.

i must beat him...hes rubbing it in everyday :( . i know there is no way im keeping up off the line but on the highway is a different story.

I think you have this backwards. It is a lot easier to launch a car than it is a bike (especially if this is his first one).Doesnt take but a blink of an eye and the bike will pass though. Top end, forget it. They scream in the upper r's. Unless your going to be driving 170+ you can forget about catching him up top.

when he takes off the line stick a fender in him and then rub it in his face at the hospital that his fast bike dosent have fenders

I think you have this backwards. It is a lot easier to launch a car than it is a bike (especially if this is his first one).Doesnt take but a blink of an eye and the bike will pass though. Top end, forget it. They scream in the upper r's. Unless your going to be driving 170+ you can forget about catching him up top.
I really dont know where you guys are coming from I have a 954rr stretched nitrous and air shifter and this car wont be taking me off the line or top end but with a stock bike especially an R 6 after your full bodied car is rolling 75-80 or above the bike isnt going to have the same pull as it does from a stop with a 450rwhp car rolling 80 you will be surprised who gets waxed and a 750 gsxr is also an apple to an orange to an R-6 And my bike tops at 183mph, with different sprockets I could get more but a smaller bike doesnt have the power to keep pulling an R-6 topped out goes about 165mph my R1 with tons of mods would only hit 177mph and your not doing that in a 1/4 mile

I think you have this backwards. It is a lot easier to launch a car than it is a bike (especially if this is his first one).Doesnt take but a blink of an eye and the bike will pass though. Top end, forget it. They scream in the upper r's. Unless your going to be driving 170+ you can forget about catching him up top.

i dont have traction, 275 series g-force kdws. i can launch at 2500 pedal it until i stop spinning get into second punch it and spin all throught second...thats my problem and by the time i get to third he is 4 lengths in front of me. then we went from like 50 roll (3rd so i dont just spin) to 120ish and he got 5 lenghts. so i was thinkin like 150 more hp would just keep even or a tad behind. i just want to see the look on his face when he only beats me by a length *priceless*

R6s arnt all taht fast, my car made 450rwhp NA with my old setup and i could put a car on one from a 40-45mph roll, with a simple 100 shot i'd walk all over it but the kid just wanted to run me NA

when he takes off the line stick a fender in him and then rub it in his face at the hospital that his fast bike dosent have fenders

:jest: hahaha...

To add insult to injury, make sure to mention you were very comfortable in your climate controlled car :)

:jest: hahaha...

To add insult to injury, make sure to mention you were very comfortable in your climate controlled car :)

:jest: :D :cheers: i think id lose a friend lol

could also race down a gravel road :judge:

Heads, Cam, LT headers, converter, gears, 150 shot, et streets. Also hope you can hook on the street, that should take car of a R6. If you not in the low 11's don't even try. Last I heard, those are high 10 second bikes with a good driver.

If you've got enough cash you can beat his ass...what kind of budget are you working with? Heads/cam/nitrous/slicks&skinnies/ and some bad ass shifting should do it.

If you've got enough cash you can beat his ass...what kind of budget are you working with? Heads/cam/nitrous/slicks&skinnies/ and some bad ass shifting should do it.

i was going to get a loan to do it :eyes: i can do the cam, heads, and nitrous in my garage i just need the parts. i was lookin at 1 of thunder racings cams last night, was just going to do a small port and polish on my stock heads. then just a wet 150 shot. then new pushrods lifters and 1.8 rockers. my moser 12 bolt should be here this week (3.73 and truetrac). anyone know what lifters and pushrods cost?

IMO, pretty stupid to go get a loan for some car shit just so you can try to beat a bike. Even if you do beat him, he can go throw on a cheap nitrous kit and kick your ass again. Maybe you should just buy a bike in addition to the car.

ive got bolt ons in my sig, what else? think wild cam, polished stock heads, ls6 intake, headers and a 75 shot would do it? ive always been faster than my buddy...he got a turbo talon and i got a specv, he got upgraded turbo and i got ls1 z28 and now hes got a bike.....i dont want a bike :nono:
Didn't your car already come with the ls6 intake? :confused: :)

Just run his ass over there you go you win!!!!

Didn't your car already come with the ls6 intake? :confused: :)
Good point, you already have an 01 so you have an ls6 intake.

im going to tell you from experience. put a cam in your car.and you will make around 400 to the wheels. and then put a nitrous kit on the car. 150 shot your car will make over 500 rwhp and thta IS PENTLY of power to wax a R6 from a roll. you will drive away from him.

cam only nitrous cars trap at 125 plus mph

R6's trap anywhere from 112 to 120 depending on rider

race him from a 50 mph roll and you will work him

my car on the motor made 450 to the wheels with my new motor and i beat a 04 GSXR 600 from a 40 mph roll

Get a used GSXR 750 with the money and kick his ass.Or a big cam with lots of nitrous and lighten the car. The bike would be the best way to go with the gas getting so dang high.

im going to tell you from experience. put a cam in your car.and you will make around 400 to the wheels. and then put a nitrous kit on the car. 150 shot your car will make over 500 rwhp and thta IS PENTLY of power to wax a R6 from a roll. you will drive away from him.

cam only nitrous cars trap at 125 plus mph

R6's trap anywhere from 112 to 120 depending on rider

race him from a 50 mph roll and you will work him

my car on the motor made 450 to the wheels with my new motor and i beat a 04 GSXR 600 from a 40 mph roll

they only trap 120?? no way. I thought R6's were faster than that.

If I added a 150shot I would trap in the 130s cam-only+spray. Im sure that would give a bike a run for his money.

yea, bikes are pretty hard to beat if you're on even a somewhat limited budget...
i have a 2000 TL1000R, and they really are rediculously fast... my buddy has a '03 cobra with a ported/polished eaton, and all the supporting mods like smaller pulley's etc.... damn thing runs pretty deep in teh 11's i believe... we havent gotten to race from a dig, b/c traction is limited to about nothing for him, but from a 50 roll, i'll pull 3 to 4 lengths on him right away, and then we're even to 140+....
And, the TL-R is a rediculously fun bike... as torquy and brutal as any bike out there, but when it comes to downright ass-hauling, it wont keep up with the 04+ 1000's ... so... ur lookin at needing a 10 sec. car to outrun a bike... and if its a modded bike, and the rider can actually ride, you better do better than that...
bikes are by no means invincible... but... very hard to beat.... rider (just like driver) can mean quite a bit too

they only trap 120?? no way. I thought R6's were faster than that.

If I added a 150shot I would trap in the 130s cam-only+spray. Im sure that would give a bike a run for his money.
i dont know what the new r6's run, but the old r6's probably wouldnt be able to do a whole lot more than your car...
the new 600's are getting rediculous tho... not beginner bikes anymore... brand new R6 was advertized to rev to 17.5K rpms... now, granted, it only reved to like 17K (long story - yamaha got themselves in some deep shit) but still... thats' a lot of revs... lots of revs = lots of hp... i think the r6 is in the 130's now

600 cc bikes are pretty fast but definitely not unbeatable. 500+ rwhp from a 40-50 roll will take care of him. Like in this video, my friends car was making right around 600 rwhp against a ZX 636 and it wasnt a problem.
http://video.ls1tech.com/player.aspx?fileid=48ADC015-C5AF-4172-AE35-0CBEC04663D3

What happens when your friend buys a plane? :rolleyes:

i thought small bikes were dogs on the highway...respectively seaking

A 600 you have a shot if you go from a high speed roll. They run out of juice at around 140. This of course assumes your car has real power at those speeds(500ish HP).

If its a 1000 dont bother unless you have over 700hp and a good setup. They dont stop pulling until they hit thier limiter at 180+. See my sig to find out why I know :)

There is a vid floating around the net of me running a DLM supercharged Viper pushing 900hp with my modded 954rr. He basically put me to his back bumper and that is where I stayed. That was fun :) Cool guy too.

I would go with a Turbo IF its that important.

i was going to get a loan to do it :eyes: i can do the cam, heads, and nitrous in my garage i just need the parts. i was lookin at 1 of thunder racings cams last night, was just going to do a small port and polish on my stock heads. then just a wet 150 shot. then new pushrods lifters and 1.8 rockers. my moser 12 bolt should be here this week (3.73 and truetrac). anyone know what lifters and pushrods cost?

If you're gonna get a loan just go buy a bike, spray it and wax his ass.

If you're gonna get a loan just go buy a bike, spray it and wax his ass.
:werd: Nuff said

I raced a 02 R6 with a cut pipe and intake, my Vette only had VaraRam and a 150 wet shot, from a 60 roll to 140+, I had one passenger filming. I have the video but it's hosted on my MySpace if you want to watch it, basically on the spray I jump the bike but I have the stock hydraulics which caused me to have to miss the shift so he started to pull away but as soon as it got in gear....

http://www.myspace.com/holyshiznit

Just watch the video. For the record my Vette weighed 3160 with two 15lb bottles and made the numbers in my signature. SORRY FOR THE CRAPPY QUALITY!

hey, im in green bay, we should get together. ill run him on the highway!!

Didn't your car already come with the ls6 intake? :confused: :)

no, thats the list of stuff i think it would take to beat him...not on the car yet

looks like that bike got :owned: in that vid

no, thats the list of stuff i think it would take to beat him...not on the car yet
How do you not have an LS6 intake already? The 01-02 F-bodys came with them from the factory.

Good point, you already have an 01 so you have an ls6 intake.

huh...isnt the ls6 the z06 motor from the vette?!?!?!

huh...isnt the ls6 the z06 motor from the vette?!?!?!
Yes, but they also came on 2001 and 2002 F-body cars. You have one trustme, just look at the part number on the drivers side of the manifold and search for that number here, youll see.

What happens when your friend buys a plane? :rolleyes:
lmao what else is there to do?

buy a missle :)

i would buy a rocketship

:funny:

Yes, but they also came on 2001 and 2002 F-body cars. You have one trustme, just look at the part number on the drivers side of the manifold and search for that number here, youll see.

#12561184 :hail: thankyou sooo much! wow that would have been a waste of money.

huh...isnt the ls6 the z06 motor from the vette?!?!?!

It's time for you to do some LS1 learnin'...:)

deffinetly...befor i buy something i already have :jest:

600 cc bikes are pretty fast but definitely not unbeatable. 500+ rwhp from a 40-50 roll will take care of him. Like in this video, my friends car was making right around 600 rwhp against a ZX 636 and it wasnt a problem.
http://video.ls1tech.com/player.aspx?fileid=48ADC015-C5AF-4172-AE35-0CBEC04663D3

The bike in this video doesnt sound like its getting on it too hard (slow shifts ect). I owned an 05 636 and know they are truely amazing bikes. They will still pull on a 40-50mph roll--given the guy riding the bike knows what to do. The power to weight ratio is crazy on the newer sports bikes. They will pull just as hard from 50 to 100 or 100 to 150 as they will from 0 to 50.
btw-150mph is at the end of 4th on the 05 636.. 5th..........6th........

deffinetly...befor i buy something i already have :jest:
yeah read up, if you really want another LS6 intake though Ill have one for sale on Monday or Tuesday.:)

i was going to get a loan to do it :eyes: i can do the cam, heads, and nitrous in my garage i just need the parts. i was lookin at 1 of thunder racings cams last night, was just going to do a small port and polish on my stock heads. then just a wet 150 shot. then new pushrods lifters and 1.8 rockers. my moser 12 bolt should be here this week (3.73 and truetrac). anyone know what lifters and pushrods cost?

All to shut up a guy on a bike...LOL

Anyway...unless the car is stupid fast...there is no way to out launch a bike. I can leave just about any car on the street on my CBR1000RR. My 2004 R6 was quick out of the hole as well...but did run out of steam past 160. My CBR is another story....litre bikes are a handful at any RPM and at any MPH!!! :bang:

Its funny this thread popped up.

I was hoping to build my Z to be competitive with 600cc bikes.

After this weekend I should be 400-415rwhp n/a in my Z. How many links will a 600 put on me?

the majority of bike owner dont have the balls to launch their bikes too hard...and personally I cant blame them at all. wonder what one of those boss hoss 350ci bikes or 502 bikes run in a quarter.

lmao what else is there to do?

buy a missle :)

Who knows, maybe the search will begin for PatriotMissileTech forums.

Could always just get a Busa

Throw some pylons in and make it a road coarse...then run him over and talk about it at the hospital. :bash:

I dont understand why you are trying to compete with a bike....it is not even the same type of vehicle.

If he is rubbing it in he is a dumb ass, and he is obviously jealous of your car.
He couldnt afford another car in his price range that could keep up with yours....so he had to go buy a bike.

You are modding your car for the wrong reason anyway.

You are going to spend thousands of dollars just so you can beat your friend?

do what YOU want to YOUR car that makes YOU happy.


How old r u?

you cant beat a bike. car is too heavy.

I dont understand why you are trying to compete with a bike....it is not even the same type of vehicle.

If he is rubbing it in he is a dumb ass, and he is obviously jealous of your car.
He couldnt afford another car in his price range that could keep up with yours....so he had to go buy a bike.

You are modding your car for the wrong reason anyway.

You are going to spend thousands of dollars just so you can beat your friend?

do what YOU want to YOUR car that makes YOU happy.


How old r u?

im 20, and i want to beat his bike. its not like im going to beat him and say i told you so, then sell the car. i think a big cam and 400+ rwhp would be sweet shit :devil:

:jest: hahaha...

To add insult to injury, make sure to mention you were very comfortable in your climate controlled car :)

Or ask him to race on a rainy, cold day .... lol.


Btw ... you will need a decent amount of mods to keep up with an R6.

Big cam, sticky tires, and some juice would probably do it. :)

everyone is tossing in suggestions on how to win... but idk.. maybe i'm wrong.. it's a pretty simple thought pattern i would think... high 10 low 11 sec bike meaning you have to take your ride into the 10's.. To be perfectly honest... there are only a very few on this board (considering the number of members) that are running in the 10's.. is it possilbe??? heck ya... but at what expense? the price tag to reach 10's is gonna cost you about what a good used R6 cost...

Also when you take a car to those kind of limits you break stuff.. lots of stuff.. that bike was made to go that fast... idk.. sorry if i'm not telling you to buy heads/wild cam/ lid, supercharger, TT's and a 9000 shot... but personally i'd stop where you are at... if you want to go that fast cuz you want to...

then do it...and everyone will support you... if your justification for spending that much money on your ride just so you can race an F-22 Raptor you won't find much support.

a nicely built 408 on gas will take care of 600s..


I know this.

everyone is tossing in suggestions on how to win... but idk.. maybe i'm wrong.. it's a pretty simple thought pattern i would think... high 10 low 11 sec bike meaning you have to take your ride into the 10's.. To be perfectly honest... there are only a very few on this board (considering the number of members) that are running in the 10's.. is it possilbe??? heck ya... but at what expense? the price tag to reach 10's is gonna cost you about what a good used R6 cost...

Also when you take a car to those kind of limits you break stuff.. lots of stuff.. that bike was made to go that fast... idk.. sorry if i'm not telling you to buy heads/wild cam/ lid, supercharger, TT's and a 9000 shot... but personally i'd stop where you are at... if you want to go that fast cuz you want to...

then do it...and everyone will support you... if your justification for spending that much money on your ride just so you can race an F-22 Raptor you won't find much support.

its not so i can beat a bike, been wanting to do head and cam for a while now. its a side effect that i may be able to take a bike on the highway with head/cam and some nitrous, im just looking to see if anybody has beat a bike or what everyone thinks it would take.

ive seen plenty of cars beat bikes on the street they are not invincible

its not so i can beat a bike, been wanting to do head and cam for a while now. its a side effect that i may be able to take a bike on the highway with head/cam and some nitrous, im just looking to see if anybody has beat a bike or what everyone thinks it would take.

you can BEAT bike on the highway with H/C/I and nitrous. stop letting people on here tell you different. its very possible. from a roll bikes are not nearly as fast. i dont care what anyone says :judge:

With a 4600 stall and H/C I have beat MANY bikes from a roll. At highway speeds bikes arent as quick as people think. Some bikes have been with great riders others have been with average riders. Point being yes they can be beat.

With a 4600 stall and H/C I have beat MANY bikes from a roll. At highway speeds bikes arent as quick as people think. Some bikes have been with great riders others have been with average riders. Point being yes they can be beat.

Do they wink at you if they are a good rider?
I have both so im neutral when picking sides as compared to someone who has only a car or a bike and wants to make theirs seem faster. Yes, bikes are fast at highway speeds. If the bikes crusing in sixth (like most do on the highway) it will have to downshift 2 or 3 times. But say your going down the highway at "highway speeds" (60mph) and your both side by side, the bike will have no problem pulling a car. It can still be in 2nd where it has power from hell.

Well I would suggest doing a nice h/c swap if you have been wanting one.

But I wouldnt bet on beating a new 600. Im would say a h/c ls1 has a good chance against a mid 90's and older 600...from about an 80 mph roll.
My friend used to have an 89 cbr 600...I never raced it...but I think I could beat him on a highway roll...that bike really ran out of steam after 110 or so.
0-60...he would smoke me im sure.

A new 600...well I wouldnt bet on my car against one....and if I did race one I would do it from a very high speed roll, with my car in the heart of the powerband in third gear. And I would probably get walked pretty bad up until 120 or so.

h/c and nitrous would do it...but that is a lot of stress on your bottom end, its up to you if you want to do that or not.

I think it is funny how many think bikes are so much faster off the starting line. Personally, my bike was much quicker from a role. Granted I have a stock wheel base, stock ride height, early 90's (1990 actually) litre+ bike, but still. When I was racing all of the time, my bike with just minor bolt ons would run 10.20's in the 136-138 range, but was only able to get low 1.80 60 foot times. I get those with my 12.3 112 mph car with some tire spin. Of course the one advantage of the bike is it was not traction limited but wheelie limited, meaning I could most likely get low 1.80 60 foots on the street as well. The best way to beat a bike is the ricer way, hang back a car length or so until they get tired of hanging in 1st or 2nd at 8000+ rpms, then when they finally give up and upshift, stab it from a car back so by the time you pass him you already have several mph on him and he still has to downshift to chase... Ask me how I know, oh yea, and then when he starts to catch and pass, let off and say "I WON".
Disclaimer... I do not really condone this type of behavior, but it is the only way a certain ass I came across would run, and the funny thing was he initiated it and then pulled that crap.

0 to 60 in the 2 second range doesnt sound too slow to me.
I would rather race a 600 from a roll

a 600 will start running out of steam up top before a powerful ls1 car will. and they dont force the wheels up worth a damn, they arent very wheelie prone.
Every 600 I have ridden was a cake walk to launch.

now a litre bike...you are going to have problems keeping the front end down/launching them....and running out of steam...that wont happen for a while, it takes one hell of a car to beat them from any kind of standpoint.
But I think youre right...the best shot against one of those would be from a stop if you can hook really well....one could stay ahead for a couple seconds :jest:

I have waxed 600 to liter bikes with a stock internal engine, headers, 3500 stall, A4, and a TNT F1 kit set at a 150shot. My most memorable race was against a retard talking much shit on two local boards saying that no daily driven street car could ever touch a bike in a race. He was riding a 2001 CBR600F4i and a somewhat decent rider. He brought along a buddy which was also riding a 600, but I could not tell you what brand it was, completely blacked out, and different fairings on it. Well anyways I let them choose how they wanted to be beat, they tried everything, different speeds, getting the jump, you name it, no matter what I would roll them out by 6 to 8 car lengths.
From a stop, from a roll, if you have a good setup, they are going to get wacked. In stock internal setup my car was capable of 1.5 60fts on 17in drag radials, so not even a street launch was out of the question. A good solid 420rwhp should be enough to roll most bikes.

Do they wink at you if they are a good rider?

Anyone who comes down 3+ gears and lifts the front end up and sets it down ay highway speeds is a good rider in my opinion. Being a good rider on a bike is all about having balls. Smarter riders usually will downshift ahead of time and wait for you. Either way good rider or not, bikes can be beat with a lowly 400+ rwhp car.

^^^ Ya I still don't get it. I only had an intake and a 150 shot....I waxed that R6 from a roll..... It can be done easily.

600's are easy, and I pulled about 2 cars on a modded 750 but I have a built LS6 :)

Do you know anything about the bike. What model? What mods does it have? What mods is he planning? How much does the rider weigh?

A stock R6 (any model) with a new rider will not go faster than 11.5 in the 1/4, some experience may get 11.0. Granted the mph will be in the 120s, unless he just sucks ass.
A good heads and cam car can get real close to those times. Some can beat them. Nitrous will have you ahead. But you better be a good driver, with some good tires.

Some mods you may need to watch out for are lowering of anykind and gear changes that alone can take a low 11s to a mid 10s. Pipes, airfilter, power commanders, stuff like that isn't gonna make a huge impact.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some goobs out there that can't fast on anything. You should race him now and let us know where your at.

Jon

the new 600's are hitting mid 10's nowadays. have you checked the mags lately?

these are professional riders though....but they are very capable.

Yeah let me check the mags, they're always right.

Rickey Gadson went 9.9s on a 2005 R6 and a 2005 ZX6R, with just one tooth down on the front sprocket and strapped/lowered.

I didn't mention magazines or professional drag racers, because it doesn't apply here.

i dont have traction, 275 series g-force kdws. i can launch at 2500 pedal it until i stop spinning get into second punch it and spin all throught second...thats my problem and by the time i get to third he is 4 lengths in front of me. then we went from like 50 roll (3rd so i dont just spin) to 120ish and he got 5 lenghts. so i was thinkin like 150 more hp would just keep even or a tad behind. i just want to see the look on his face when he only beats me by a length *priceless*

I'd start with the driver mod if I were you. Seriously, you should not be spinning all the way through second gear with just a lid and a cat back. If you have to run from a 50 roll in 3rd to keep from spinning, you need new tires.

Try launching with a little less throttle and let the clutch out just fast enough to keep from bogging the car. If you can't launch it stock, it's only going to get harder after you start modding it.

Get an R1

Do you know anything about the bike. What model? What mods does it have? What mods is he planning? How much does the rider weigh?

A stock R6 (any model) with a new rider will not go faster than 11.5 in the 1/4, some experience may get 11.0. Granted the mph will be in the 120s, unless he just sucks ass.
A good heads and cam car can get real close to those times. Some can beat them. Nitrous will have you ahead. But you better be a good driver, with some good tires.

Some mods you may need to watch out for are lowering of anykind and gear changes that alone can take a low 11s to a mid 10s. Pipes, airfilter, power commanders, stuff like that isn't gonna make a huge impact.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some goobs out there that can't fast on anything. You should race him now and let us know where your at.

Jon
2001 yamaha r6, bone stock, rider weighs around 160. this is his first bike and hes had it for 2 weeks. think he wants to keep it stock, he scared himself already on the highway :eek:. we didnt get a good spot to race, and it been rainy and windy here but i deffinitly want to get a good run on the highway to see where im at. i will post up when that happens, probably monday or tuesday.

http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Camaro/4/A7D702B3-A84D-43D9-8841-A2F4EB9BD3A8.htm

it should be a piece of cake :eyes:

sounds like you need to do a lot of research and use the search feature to figure out what mods you want.
FYI you do NOT need new lifters or rockers. and as stated, you have an ls6 intake.

I dont see why the mojority of people here dont think it can be done. Bikes are not all that aero dynamic. With a decent sized (not big) cam and a 100 shot you could do it all day. With heads, cam, and gas you could be competitive with a litre bike. Just dont race him from a stand still.

FWIW:I lost to a CBR 600 by less than a car. I have a 221/221 cam in my car and making right at 400.

where have you been?

a video was just posted not too long ago of an 734rwhp viper getting beat pretty bad against a litre bike.

a h/c nitrous ls1 wouldnt have a chance in hell of even holding a candle to a litre bike.

http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/1/A2F64D84-BF52-4BFD-B9D3-9D72BA553CA0.htm

the other video I posted shows a 600 beating a 415 rwhp car pretty handily

I dont get it.

From my experiance, small bikes here have new riders on them, and can not launch worth shit. I have had several 600s mess with me on the street from a dig... and yes, it gets worse on top as thier CF of drag sucks balls and they have no torq to keep pulling past 120.

Bluff some mt et st radials, 150 shot wet and spank his ass from a dig.
Dave :chug:

I say save your money, if he's got a bike, he's gonna lay it over, soon as he does you'll be the faster one. I have 2 buddies that are the most careful drivers in the world on bikes, each have been through 2 bikes, one of them has been through 3. People just don't see them, I wish they were smart enough to quit riding but, they both still have bikes.

My friend has a r1 and my track times are better than his.I just have a 3500 stall,et streets,catback,racetronix pump,and tnt 150 shot.He is a new driver,and I know his bike is faster than my car with a good driver,so don't flame me.Just stating if he can't drive it good you can still have a chance without to many mods but with a nice shot of juice and some stickies.But if he can drive than some heads and cam and juice should keep you close

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/firehawk/0/7AF43F99-71C9-4C22-AF44-3A6A726A472E.htm

if you REALLY want something that you could REALLY rub it in with, beat him on a scooter!!!

http://www.streetracersonline.com/videos/b1.php

The answer to your bike-car problem can be found here: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9 :nod:

Just take them from a roll from around 100 MPH on up. Even 350-400hp flywheel can run with 600cc. Liter bikes with a good rider is another story.

I have both an 05 636 and the car in the sig. My car from a dig on the street and it is no problem. Now doing 60 in second gear on the bike vs my car and its the 636 every day of the week to about 140. the new 600's are putting anywhere from 113-120 to the wheel. think about it, say 600lbs with rider and 113 rw. So in relation to a full weight fbody say at 3600 lbs roughly that car need to put down ~678 rw to match things. That is a heavily modded Fbody vs a very stock bike. It gets proven here in tampa every day.

where have you been?

a video was just posted not too long ago of an 734rwhp viper getting beat pretty bad against a litre bike.

a h/c nitrous ls1 wouldnt have a chance in hell of even holding a candle to a litre bike.

http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/1/A2F64D84-BF52-4BFD-B9D3-9D72BA553CA0.htm



I think he means a huge solid roller cam and a 400 shot.

And if thats the video of the viper you're talking about, then thats not a liter bike. Its a 1300 not to mention the most aerodymanic bike made. I thought the car actually did pretty good. He gave up about 4 bike lengths in the first run with a slow ass shift.

The first time I ran my 600 I ran an 8.4 @ 96 in the 1/8. I had owned the bike about 3-4 weeks, and I was ~205 lbs. With $100 in mods and a more experienced 160 lbs rider, it went 6.8 @ 105. A h/c LS1 should run atleast mid 7s. It took me a while to run those kind of times.

So I would say a new rider on a stock height bike your best chance is out of the hole. Worst chance is a slow roll. Go ahead and get a good 100-125 wet shot. See where that gets you, then decide on what cam to go with if you still think that you need it.

Jon

I pulled on an R6 from an 85-90 roll or so. I started right at the top of 3rd (4.11's) and took it all the way to 6600 in 5th gear (165ish). I was just messing around and couldn't believe when I started to suck him in past 130 or so. He was tucked in behind the windshield and everything, which led me to believe he was "givin' her all she's got captain!". :jest:

My car would make around 390-400rwhp on a dynojet. Some suggested the guy simply did not downshift, but who really knows. I trapped 117.5mph the last time I went to the track.


Bottom line your friend is a complete idiot for "rubbing it in your face". I understand how bad you'd like to beat him though. A car can brag about beating a bike, but not the other way around. Tell him you could sell your car and buy 2 of those pieces of shits. ;)

new moser 12 bolts is gonna be here tomorow and its supposed to be a nice day so im gonna see if he wants to do a couple diff races (dig, low speed roll and high speed roll) i will keep u guys posted.

of course it can be done.. but how much money do you want to spend just to beat a bike.. plan on losing for a couple years.. i remember seeing in some bike magazines that had professional drivers hitting like 9.8's in busas.. we have people on here that can beat that et.. and youre talking about an r6... you can only launch a street bike so hard without ending up in the hospital or at least sore for a while.. meaning you flipped it haha

ive got bolt ons in my sig, what else? think wild cam, polished stock heads, ls6 intake, headers and a 75 shot would do it? ive always been faster than my buddy...he got a turbo talon and i got a specv, he got upgraded turbo and i got ls1 z28 and now hes got a bike.....i dont want a bike :nono:
Hey it depends on if he can drive the bike or not ive got a suzuki sv650s that runs 7.5s in the 1/8 stock but id say ur best bet is from a dead start b/c its hard to leave w/o the front tire in the air lol. but def. jet ur nos up to bout 150 or so bc a stock bottom end on an ls1 can withstand a 150 shot.get some drag radials or slicks and u could prob take him a 600 is a slug until 7 or 8000 RPM so thats ur chance to dance but top speed on a 600 is bout 160 to 170 tops stock good luck lemme no how it goes

yay for a month ago! :)