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Old 05-05-2006, 10:18 PM
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Is there a difference between a turbo from a diesel vehicle and one from gas vehicle ? The reason I'm asking is I told my friend that I was going with a turbo set-up in my 67 RS/SS and he brought back this turbo from his new job at Robertsons Ready Mix as a mechanic's helper. They gave it to him, no shaft play and everything spins freely . Could I even use this :



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you couldnt pay me to put that on my car
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there are MANY guys running fast on diesel turbos. A guy locally around here ran high 8s with a TV8101 turbo. Not bad for a SBC in a 70s camaro.
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It doesn't look too bad, but keep in mind a turbo is one of the cheaper parts of a turbo car setup, my turbos total value are less than 10% of the total cost I have into getting my twin turbo setup done.
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the turbo itself is the easy part.
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Originally Posted by deviate42
you couldnt pay me to put that on my car
Um, why not? Because it needs to be cleaned because it's dirty and has been used?

The looks like an HX35, is that what it is? I think that will be relatively small for your engine, and the turbo is most efficient in the 20+psi range, which I doubt it will produce on your engine. I think that turbo is better matched for a 2-3L engine.
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Originally Posted by Poik
Um, why not? Because it needs to be cleaned because it's dirty and has been used?

The looks like an HX35, is that what it is? I think that will be relatively small for your engine, and the turbo is most efficient in the 20+psi range, which I doubt it will produce on your engine. I think that turbo is better matched for a 2-3L engine.
thats my answer. why dish out $6k+ for a turbo setup to not have a correct match up for the head unit to engine?

I dont care if its dirty, but I generally try to stay away from used turbos.
just my opinion.
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This turbo is a lot bigger than the pictures show ! I'm not really sure I want to use them though, I mean I don't have a problem using used parts its just I kinda think deviate42 is right about these turbo's boosting around 20psi cause they are built for a way bigger displacement that can push alot of psi with no problem cause they're built for torque to haul stuff !
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Guys,

Gas engine turbo's = Diesel turbos with smaller A/R's.

We build turbos here and all the parts are made for diesels. They are just simply packaged a little different for gas engines. Anybody care to guess what a GT42 comes off of?? When Jose told me I laughed...hehe.

Also the turbo you have appears to be an HX or HY35 off a 5.9L Cummins Turbo diesel. Its only a 5Xmm unit. Also Holset's are old designs and spool relatively slow.
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Yeah ! I checked it says hx40. So they spool slow, is it worth even bothering with ? How old is old for these ?
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Like I said earlier, its not worth it when you can pick up a MP T70 for $600, you can also get into other turbos that are high quality for $600-$800.
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yea man, for that just pick up a ^^^ master power t70 -(MPT70), i got mine for about $550 or so, but i had a slight hookup on pricing at the time, it had a polished housing too, blinggg
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Originally Posted by deviate42
I dont care if its dirty, but I generally try to stay away from used turbos.
just my opinion.
ever single aftermarket part on my car with the exception of the clutch, tires, and fuel pump is used or fabricated. I made 450 rwhp and 510 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm untuned a few montsh ago.

Dont knock used parts! They helped me afford my setup!
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
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We build turbos here and all the parts are made for diesels. They are just simply packaged a little different for gas engines. Anybody care to guess what a GT42 comes off of?? When Jose told me I laughed...hehe.

Please do say... id love to know since i have one....
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Guys,

Anybody care to guess what a GT42 comes off of?? When Jose told me I laughed...hehe.
A John Deere dual wheel tractor, correct?
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Please do say... id love to know since i have one....
Most GT42's come off Detroit Diesels, Catepillar's, Scania's and Tunings Diesels. Depending on the part # the wheels and housings will change.
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Originally Posted by NOSjohn
A John Deere dual wheel tractor, correct?
Most big John Deere turbos are not Garrett's anymore. I believe they now use Schwitzer. The GT series is not used, as far as I know, with the exception of the GT3271 used on the 6068T JD. Its a 6 cylinder John Deere.
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Right, I wasn't sure how big they went. Sounds like Jose has you on the ball with turbo knowledge.
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Originally Posted by NOSjohn
Right, I wasn't sure how big they went. Sounds like Jose has you on the ball with turbo knowledge.
I cheated...I looked at our database....lol
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Nothing wrong with that! It's not cheating...it's "utilizing information at your fingertips".




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