First attempt to clay bar
05-10-2006, 11:12 PM
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First attempt to clay bar Alright i went and picked up a Meguair's clay bar and spary on finishing touch and am going to attempt to clay my formula. Anyone have any comments or suggestions for me? All will be appreciated.
05-10-2006, 11:19 PM
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It does make a huge difference. Everyone should do it, but it's especially for when you wax your car and it stills feels rough. After you clay and wax it, it will be soooo smooth.
Tip: Just keep it really really wet so it glides across the car. If it gets dry and starts sticking you will get streaks that are hard to get out. I used water with dish washing liquid to keep it wet. If it has degreaser it will take off whatever wax you have but claying may do that too. I don't know? Anyway, you'll want to wax it afterwards too so just do it.
Tip: Just keep it really really wet so it glides across the car. If it gets dry and starts sticking you will get streaks that are hard to get out. I used water with dish washing liquid to keep it wet. If it has degreaser it will take off whatever wax you have but claying may do that too. I don't know? Anyway, you'll want to wax it afterwards too so just do it.
05-10-2006, 11:39 PM
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Check the clay surface after you have worked out 'scuffy areas' I'm referring to the feeling of the clay dragging, then gliding, after the contaminants have been trapped. You'll want to keep a clean surface on the clay so you don't slide picked up dirt around.
Use half a bar to start. You don't need a whole one. Plus if you drop it, throw it away, you've got another half. Spray lubricant liberally, you really can't have too much.
Use half a bar to start. You don't need a whole one. Plus if you drop it, throw it away, you've got another half. Spray lubricant liberally, you really can't have too much.
05-11-2006, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
yes make sure the clay is clean otherwise you will be rubbing it all back into the paint and will swirl it up prettty badly.
My question is after I wash the car real good, and begin clay bar-ing to get this "stuff" out of the paint, what should I do regarding all that **** coming onto the cly bar? Should I wipe the clay bar clean after each "pass" ? After it becomes covered in this "stuff"
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Andy
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05-11-2006, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dserby1
keep folding the clay and kneeding (sp?) it to get a fresh surface after every 2 ft section...1 claybar will be usable at least 3 times for a car this size
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Andy
05-11-2006, 08:34 AM
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Clay it as you wash, use the soapy water for the lubricant, it is faster, works better, and it alot easier than using that spray bottle which is just soapy water anyway.
05-11-2006, 09:27 PM
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A friend of mine does detailing for a living at a used car dealership. When he does clay he just uses a bucket of soapy water. It works just as well as the spray, just costs less.
He also told me about the coolest thing ever. They have a big clay bar that attaches to an orbital buffer. How amazing?
He also told me about the coolest thing ever. They have a big clay bar that attaches to an orbital buffer. How amazing?
05-11-2006, 09:48 PM
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use plenty of lubricant (you can't use too much for the clay, it just makes a bigger mess).. My preference is Quick Detailer, but soapy water (car soap) works also, but to me it makes a bigger mess.
keep checking your clay, kneading it as necessary. Do not work too big an area at a time .. if this is the first time the car has been clayed, be prepared to spend a little time doing it.
and above all, if you drop the clay bar, do NOT try and reuse it. you are just asking for trouble. (unless you have something clean, lint, and dust free to catch it when it falls)
follow the directions that came with the clay, and you will do fine ..
that explains the way some cars look when the dealer is done installing the DISO
shortcuts are almost never a good thing.
keep checking your clay, kneading it as necessary. Do not work too big an area at a time .. if this is the first time the car has been clayed, be prepared to spend a little time doing it.
and above all, if you drop the clay bar, do NOT try and reuse it. you are just asking for trouble. (unless you have something clean, lint, and dust free to catch it when it falls)
follow the directions that came with the clay, and you will do fine ..
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He also told me about the coolest thing ever. They have a big clay bar that attaches to an orbital buffer. How amazing?
that explains the way some cars look when the dealer is done installing the DISO
shortcuts are almost never a good thing.
05-11-2006, 09:52 PM
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See this has just irked me to no end 
Cause I was soo unsure about how much spray to use to keep it lubed.. and was told you hardly need any etc..
Again this just goes to show to each has their own subjective level of whatever it is we ask L
Streetable, or not, etc etc. lesson learned.... keep the clay bar wet shouldn't *catch* on the paint at all.
When using Zaino on the car.. I practiced on the Buick and Jeep first haha..
Buick: Used the clay bar and realy kept it wet, and did it etc, only one coat of the z2 w/ zx stuff.. Came out crazy smooth and nice..
Since it was my first time claying, I thought well sheesh the clay doesnt look dirty at all.. maybe I did it wrong. I used the zaino car wash and water int he spray bottle for lube.
Jeep: Used much less lube, clay bar got mad dirty and the car was noticeably streaked by the clay bar. I was like wow this looks like it is working now... Wash.. with the dish wahsing liquid then the zaino car wash.. then did a single z2 coat.. sigh not very smooth, somewhat shiney.. and could still see the clay streaks somewhat..
TA: Used a lil more lube, had some clay streaks, bar was a little dirty etc.. re-washed it witht he zaino car wash, then did 2 coats z5, 3 coats z2, used the finishing polish spray etc.. this was where I fubar'd the washing of the towels and gave my cra a really nic static charge on the paint, which needless to say didnt wash off with zaino car wash :0
The ta was shiney as hell, dont recall seeing any of the clay streaks.. but it wasn;t very slick feeling.. smooth.. glossy.. but not "slick* liek the buick.
Ill redo it next week and see if I can;t get that slickness by going nuts with the lube like on the buick.
Anyways thanks for the above comments, as I typed and thought this out loud I see my errors Thanks again.
Cause I was soo unsure about how much spray to use to keep it lubed.. and was told you hardly need any etc.. Again this just goes to show to each has their own subjective level of whatever it is we ask L
Streetable, or not, etc etc. lesson learned.... keep the clay bar wet shouldn't *catch* on the paint at all. When using Zaino on the car.. I practiced on the Buick and Jeep first haha..
Buick: Used the clay bar and realy kept it wet, and did it etc, only one coat of the z2 w/ zx stuff.. Came out crazy smooth and nice..
Since it was my first time claying, I thought well sheesh the clay doesnt look dirty at all.. maybe I did it wrong. I used the zaino car wash and water int he spray bottle for lube.
Jeep: Used much less lube, clay bar got mad dirty and the car was noticeably streaked by the clay bar. I was like wow this looks like it is working now... Wash.. with the dish wahsing liquid then the zaino car wash.. then did a single z2 coat.. sigh not very smooth, somewhat shiney.. and could still see the clay streaks somewhat..
TA: Used a lil more lube, had some clay streaks, bar was a little dirty etc.. re-washed it witht he zaino car wash, then did 2 coats z5, 3 coats z2, used the finishing polish spray etc.. this was where I fubar'd the washing of the towels and gave my cra a really nic static charge on the paint, which needless to say didnt wash off with zaino car wash :0
The ta was shiney as hell, dont recall seeing any of the clay streaks.. but it wasn;t very slick feeling.. smooth.. glossy.. but not "slick* liek the buick.
Ill redo it next week and see if I can;t get that slickness by going nuts with the lube like on the buick.
Anyways thanks for the above comments, as I typed and thought this out loud I see my errors
Thanks again.
05-11-2006, 10:08 PM
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Nods.. Did a full Dawn car wash prior to the clay.. *buick* then used ample car wash/water mix to keep the clay bar mad wet and then used another towel to dry it off as I moved to another area, I guess I didn't want the car wash/water mix to dry.
Is that best ?
prior to the clay.. *buick* then used ample car wash/water mix to keep the clay bar mad wet and then used another towel to dry it off as I moved to another area, I guess I didn't want the car wash/water mix to dry.Is that best ?
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yes, wiping it off as you go is the best. that is why I use QD, instead of soapy water, since that is what it is designed to do..
just make sure you are using a Microfiber towel to wipe off with, and not something that will be scratching your paint while you are trying to make it look better.
(I am not a fan of washing with dawn, btw)
just make sure you are using a Microfiber towel to wipe off with, and not something that will be scratching your paint while you are trying to make it look better.
(I am not a fan of washing with dawn, btw)
05-12-2006, 10:20 AM
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Nods, I use one of the 100% cotton USA towels. Hehe witht he dawn it is a pain int he *** to get all of it off the car. It seems that the dawn just doesnt wanan come off. End up rinsing the car off 2-3 times using the jet spray, can't just take off the nozzle and let it just rinse off with hardly any spotting or water on the car like I can do with regular car wash.