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Old 05-14-2006, 11:31 PM
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Default Ls1 edit or Efi live?

Looking at getting into the game and wondering which way to go?

Car is a 98 c5 m6 full bolt on h/c car.

Is Efi live worth the exta dough with the scanning tools and ve autotune feature?

I do have a lm1 wideband installed currently
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EFI Live with enhanced I/O
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Enhanced IO is an HP Tuners feature.

- Keith, HP Tuners
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Originally Posted by Magnus
Enhanced IO is an HP Tuners feature.

- Keith, HP Tuners

EFILIVE come std with the enhanced IO , extra cost on HPTUNERS.

It really comes down to the scanner interface , and I have never seen anyone go from EFILIVE to HPTUNERS , seen a lot of people upgrade from HPTUNERS to EFILIVE , myself included.

98's are also a free license on EFILIVE
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I dont know any thing about the diiferent features, but am a fast learner, What is enhanced IO?
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Enhanced IO is basically the ability to interface with the cable extra features such as a wideband. I am currently offering specials on EFILive and as Tomcat said, with EFILive 98's don't require a license so you will have the ability to tune two more 99+ vehicles.
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the "extra cost" makes HP Tuners EIO price the same as EFIlive at $649. We also have a $150 cheaper non-EIO interface if you are never going to connect a wideband or other external sensors. For your $499 or $649 you can tune an unlimited number of 98 LS1's with HP Tuners if you choose.

Considering i have some efilive cables here that people have traded in, i would also assume it does happen that people switch from efilive to HPT... just that we don't post the fact all over internet forums

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For your $499 or $649 you can tune an unlimited number of 98 LS1's with HP Tuners if you choose.

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If you purchase credits for them correct.
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
If you purchase license's for them correct.
no need to "purchase" anything more than the inital $499 or $649 package. It ships with 8 free credits that you can use in any way you like. single LS1 vehicle is 2 credits, unlimited 98 is 6 credits. Either way its more than you need.
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EFILive comes standard with everything you need to scan and tune. No hidden cost, no BS on the licensing. The EFILive forum is a great place for you to ask questions specific to EFILive. Lot's of expertise on the forum waiting to help you.

EFILive is the best LSx tuning suite on the market. But, if for some reason you decide it's not for you, stear clear of LS1Edit. Edit can get the job done, but it's rather archaic with todays options and limited on support.
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
No hidden cost, no BS on the licensing.
show me the BS? i never said we offer free tuning for 98's, all i said was for $499 or $649 the guy (who doesn't own anything) could tune an unlimited number of 98 LS1's with HPT which is exactly the truth.

You guys keep saying he has "extra cost", "purchases" and "hidden costs" which is just plain false.

fotoboy, i'm sorry to bore you with this correction of misinformation.

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Originally Posted by gameover
You guys keep saying he has "extra cost", "purchases" and "hidden costs" which is just plain false.
Not what I said. My statement, taken in context:

Originally Posted by TAQuickness
EFILive comes standard with everything you need to scan and tune. No hidden cost, no BS on the licensing.
was to let him know the EFILive purchase is straight forward. EFIlive includes the state-of-the-art flashscan interface allowing the end user to log 2 external 0-5vdc analog inputs as well as 1 Type K thermocouple input. Personally, I use mine to log an LC-1 on both banks. Non-workshop packages include unlimited '98 tuning and 2 '99+ PCM's. Additional PCM's can be purchased for $99 each. Workshops are unlimited.

^^^^^ Complete and no hidden cost ^^^^^
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Hp Tuner's or EFI live will take care of your needs.Just research what will be better for you.

We use EFI live.
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funny how .... HPT coins the term "EIO" but tomcat jumps all over keith (like tomcat usually does... never seen him post anything USEFUL in this section).... yet no one better associate "Auto-VE" with HPT (even though HPT offers the same thing and has longer) (also... EIO = Enhanced Input/Output... EFI only offers Inputs right? no outputs? so then it DOESN'T include Enhanced IO )


Yet all the while... when a certain company is MONTHS behind the projected schedule (what was projected early this year for some new hardware) those same people... who are quick to rip on HPT when they don't release stuff as quickly as they'd like... say nothing....

things that make you go hmmmm....



see:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning/368718-read-me-best-ls1-tuning-software-best-scanner-best-handheld.html

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