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Old 12-21-2002, 04:10 PM
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Default advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

anyone have this on thier WS6 or SS. does it work better than your typical lid set-up?
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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

most people prefer the lid setup cause the k&n setup allows hot air into the intake.
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K&N GEN 2 FIPK is junk man , skip the hassle, and go with a lid, cutout the bottom of your lid's base, and install some form of a super sucker to get the cold underside air in there.
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yea, thast what i figiured. looked like it would suck up to much hot air. i wonder though, would a FTRA or SLP CAI even work w/ a WS6's ram air? or would it void the ram air efect of the hoodscoops?
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brian green ram air mod???? please explain. never heard of that one before...
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>>>>>>>>>>>check the sponsors to the right.>>>>>
i know at least one of them , Speed Inc., carries it.
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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

What about the Volant setup? Is anyone using this? That setup looks like it seals off the engine bay.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NickFL:
<strong>What about the Volant setup? Is anyone using this? That setup looks like it seals off the engine bay.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got the Volant. Good for almost .5mph over my lid @ the track and it gave me a few more hp and tq. I wouldn't recommend it for a camaro though. W/ the Volant/ram-air combo on the firebird it moves ALOT of air into the completely sealed off airbox! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

if you have a ws6 you should get the brian green ram air mod and a good lid with high flow filter.
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One thing the FIPK does not do is draw heat directly up from the radiator. The metal mounting plate completely blocks off the top of the radiator thus preventing heat from being drawn in directly.
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wow! that volant set-up looks cool. that definately looks like it would help a ram air T/A. but i couldn't find the brian green combo...
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ok i just heard that the volant set-up isn't all that. it has fitment issues apparently. still can't find the brian green ram air mod. what about the "bg ram air" kit on speed inc.? that looks like it would work for a WS6 car. anyone, ideas?
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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

Well I showed gains w/ my FIPK over my lid so I guess it's not "junk". The hotter intake temps are BS. On AutoTap mine were the same. My guess is your car would suck more hot air w/ lid and FRA over FIPK.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by up2late76:
<strong>ok i just heard that the volant set-up isn't all that. it has fitment issues apparently. still can't find the brian green ram air mod. what about the "bg ram air" kit on speed inc.? that looks like it would work for a WS6 car. anyone, ideas?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The BG stands for Brian Green.. as in Brian Green Ram Air <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1BlackZ28:
<strong>Well I showed gains w/ my FIPK over my lid so I guess it's not "junk". The hotter intake temps are BS. On AutoTap mine were the same. My guess is your car would suck more hot air w/ lid and FRA over FIPK.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not what we found! Back in March, we dynoed my car a couple of ways, switching between the lid and the FIPK, and tried it with both the hood up and down. The results were the same with the hood up, but the FIPK showed nearly a 30 HP loss with the hood down over the lid (the lid actually went up slightly). Sucking hot air.

Now it is likely that once the car is moving, the FIPK will not suck hot air, but from a start, it is going to cost you. The dyno is below . . .

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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

I'll throw in a vote for the Volant if you have an SS, I experienced no real seat of the pants gain over the lid. I figure it picked up an extra 5 hp or so, because I went from a cutout to GMMG at the same time, and the car still ran dead even with my buddies SS as it did before, so it made up for the hp loss on my exhaust. The bonus is it looks damn sweet and I have no hydrolock worries anymore. I am sure I will pick up more power when i hog out the air openings on the SS hood and get more flow in there.

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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

i also saw this 'stealth' lower box and lid set-up. the whole thing is supposed to be a bigger filter ('vette stlye) w/ a bigger opening at the bottom of the lower box base. wonder if this would help a WS6 car along w/ that BG ram air mod(very cool)...
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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

I have the K&N kit and I like it I cut a hole out of the metal plate and put the slp ram air plate in but even with just the kit I felt a huge differance in hp and torque. I am still going to put the ultra z hood on to get more of a ram air effect.

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Default Re: advice on generation 2 "fipk" filter set-up from k&n...

I was about to make a post with this same question about what intake set up is the best. I also have the WS6 and the BG ram air set up looks interesting.
Anyone here have pics of it installed or any dyno information on it? I'm gonna need lots of air with my new set up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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very interested in that bg set-up. i'll probably buy that sucker soon... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />




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