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Old 05-16-2006, 10:32 PM
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So I was driving home tonight from work and heard a LOUD boom and then the motor started making this tapping sound. So I stoped right away on the side of the road and the freakin #3 runner on the right side header had a hole on it!!! Yes a hole... about 1/2 inch in diameter on the primary close to the flange.


This is not normal is it, I'm not even running nitrous or FI to get the headers that hot or anything!
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uhhh.....no that is not normal.
You probably hit a rock or something and it knocked a hole in it.
...And your pictures are not showing up.
What is a runner? You mean primary?
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Thats crazy. what headers are they?
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Originally Posted by camaroextra
Thats crazy. what headers are they?
They're LG headers, but this shouldnt happen even on cheap ones! What could've caused that?
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from your pics those look pretty rusted...maybe it just gave way from the exhaust pressure. but thats definitely not normal!
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Was anything welded in that spot? Pretty wierd for that to happen
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Originally Posted by klujan13
from your pics those look pretty rusted...maybe it just gave way from the exhaust pressure. but thats definitely not normal!
I believe LG's are stainless

How long have they been on the car

It was probably a random flaw in the metal that nobody saw
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Is it just me or does it look like hammer marks all around the hole???

EDIT* Yeah I am seeing things, nevermind.
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silly darkness, your not supposed to hammer your headers in
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Originally Posted by Lithium
Is it just me or does it look like hammer marks all around the hole???

EDIT* Yeah I am seeing things, nevermind.
Yeah I used them as an anvil before!!!

The headers are not rusted, its just surface oxidation from humidity. They are less than a year old.
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then that **** just happened? thats really wierd. Had to be some debris or something...
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Originally Posted by Darkness
So I was driving home tonight from work and heard a LOUD boom and then the motor started making this tapping sound. So I stoped right away on the side of the road and the freakin #3 runner on the right side header had a hole on it!!! Yes a hole... about 1/2 inch in diameter on the primary close to the flange.


This is not normal is it, I'm not even running nitrous or FI to get the headers that hot or anything!
There is something wrong with your headers. I am speaking about the material itself. That looks like a brittle fracture (no deformation around the periphery) which would indicate the tubing had been improperly heat treated. It should be nice and ductile and if it was, there is no way a hole like that would result. Stainless steel is susceptible to embrittlement if the wrong grade is used for welded applications. I'd call the the manufacturer and explain what happened and see what they say. If worse comes to worse, you can have it welded but it might just happen again someplace else. Better than nothing though.
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if it cant be duct, its fucked
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Ok, now that I have seen the picture....that was def. not a rock!
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Originally Posted by CW00BlackTA
There is something wrong with your headers. I am speaking about the material itself. That looks like a brittle fracture (no deformation around the periphery) which would indicate the tubing had been improperly heat treated. It should be nice and ductile and if it was, there is no way a hole like that would result. Stainless steel is susceptible to embrittlement if the wrong grade is used for welded applications.
This is exactly what I'm thinking, a weak spot in the material frrom improper heat treatment and or bad quality material throughout the whole header!
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Wow thats crazy! Definatly some freak accident. I'm sure Lou will take care of you! Give them a call in the morning.
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I've seen that before when the EGR fitting breaks off
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My hookers did that at the air connection on the driver's side. I just had it welded over.
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Damn... if there wasnt any fitting or boss welded in thst spot, it must be a material defect. Dont drive the car again or you may burn the exhaust valve on that cylinder.
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There was a guy here locally that recently had a set of Pacesetters do the same thing. It's either a weak spot in the material or IIRC Bo White said that he has seen this same thing also caused by a lean condition. Do you know what your EGTs are?



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