View Full Version : What do you think of this race. VID


25psi
05-17-2006, 01:50 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...51E4F7DAF8.htm

Here is a 350z with 20in rims(ugh),intake vs a stock gt 05 mustang without a passenger.

Would you agree if the 350z didnt have 20in rims and a passenger it wouldbe pulled.

Notice once they get into 3rd, the gt doesn't pull at all. I even think the 350z starts to pull slightly.

Let me know what you all think.

wickedwarlock
05-17-2006, 01:52 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...51E4F7DAF8.htm

Here is a 350z with 20in rims(ugh),intake vs a stock gt 05 mustang without a passenger.

Would you agree if the 350z didnt have 20in rims and a passenger it wouldbe pulled.

Notice once they get into 3rd, the gt doesn't pull at all. I even think the 350z starts to pull slightly.

Let me know what you all think.

link isn't working.

25psi
05-17-2006, 01:58 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3AD0A124-F2E9-4857-A0D3-2051E4F7DAF8.htm

How about now

wickedwarlock
05-17-2006, 02:13 PM
Nope, I don't think the z would pull on the gt. Looks like the gt was playing. When he's on it, pulled the z pretty hard.

Edit: I watched it again, see the gt pull out, than you see the brake light and the z kept going. :judge: Than he gets back on it and pulls very hard up top. I would say nope. Like I said, look at the gt's brake light. He was pulling in second gear when he tapped the brake.

25psi
05-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Take closer look at the last race. You can clearly tell that the gt was not pulling anymore. You can contribute the pull from the start on the z becuase of his 20in rims and passenger.

I don't see where you think the gt is pulling hard. I think once you get into the upper mph, the z would walk em.

Hoss Ghoul
05-17-2006, 03:01 PM
It looked like he was starting to reel the GT in on the 3rd run, not alot, but slowly reeling him in. I wonder if the GT was an automatic? I'd like to see 0-150, probably be a close race.

00firebird
05-17-2006, 03:03 PM
:) who cares about what if's, the z lost oh noes.

25psi
05-17-2006, 03:24 PM
I don't think the z lost. The gt shut down early becuase he knew he was getting reeled in.

Lets take a closer look.

GT. 300hp 320tq 0 passengers

350z. 287-300hp 270tq. 1 passenger and 20in rims

Look closely at the last race. You can clearly tell the z was pulling before the gt let out.

Car RamRod
05-17-2006, 03:29 PM
I don't think the z lost. The gt shut down early becuase he knew he was getting reeled in.

The Z was behind when the race ended; it lost.
Now could it have pulled in front? Possibly, and the wheels definetly didnt help, but theres no solid answer, well except for runnin them again :devil:

25psi
05-17-2006, 03:31 PM
The Z was behind when the race ended; it lost.
Now could it have pulled in front? Possibly, and the wheels definetly didnt help, but theres no solid answer, well except for runnin them again :devil:

The wheels or the passenger didnt help.

OdessitPashka
05-17-2006, 04:41 PM
I saw this video on 350z forums and I definitely think that if it wasn't for 20's and a passanger, it would've been a lot close and even with possibility of 350z pulling on GT.

Reason why GT was stopping is because he has a governor at 200kmh or so.

DemitriHKS
05-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Wow, that was closer than I thought it would be. The weight could have been an issue but I know that stock for stock a 05-06 GT should win. I mean some of the 02's and up give me trouble here and there. Slightly modded they'll win.......for now......

OdessitPashka
05-17-2006, 04:45 PM
Z was modded. If I remember correctly, it has spacer and intake.

BLACKBIRD8200
05-17-2006, 04:49 PM
now due to the 20in rims it's takes more power for them to get moving but at higher speeds they cover more ground with less revalutions.

so without the rims he'd be slower top end but faster off the line

25psi
05-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Z was modded. If I remember correctly, it has spacer and intake.

I thought it was just an intake.

OdessitPashka
05-17-2006, 05:13 PM
"My Z have: 20" rims, pop charger, MD 1/4" plenum spacer, 170 lb passenger and 3/4 of gas"

SDB
05-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Again....a pussy import....it lost....and still, the ricerfags on this board have to try to make excuses for why it got beat...I would say "unreal' but it is just par for the course!!!!!!

SDB

sleeperstyle
05-17-2006, 11:44 PM
the only time the 350 made up any ground at all is RIGHT before you see mustang brake lights...

now let me ask you this, are you floored and then SLAM on the brakes? no- you let off the gas and then hit the brakes. that explains the 1' he made up right before the brake lights.

OdessitPashka
05-17-2006, 11:57 PM
Why are you guys hating on that 350z so much? Guy never talked trash to anyone and just posted a race he had with a domestic car. I think he kept with him very well and if it wasn't for the 20's, passanger, and a full tank of gas, he probably would've done even better and possibly beat GT.

You guys should realize that nowadays v6's come with 300hp and can definitely hold their own against v8's. Stang has 300hp and so does the 350z, plus it had a few mods and a stang was auto, so I don't see why it would be impossible for that "pussy import" to beat an american v8...

sleeperstyle
05-18-2006, 12:08 AM
the video showed it loosing, just stating the facts. both cars are low 14's/ high 13's so it was a good race.

OdessitPashka
05-18-2006, 12:13 AM
yeah, he lost, no doubt about that, but it was a good race.

Notice in the last race, GT got ahead about a car and a half or so and then they just stood there without either car gaining an inch.

SDB
05-18-2006, 09:02 AM
A person who doesn't own this car posted it....a ricerfag who comes on here to start shit and "prove" how fast imports are....period.

Driving an import is like winning the special olympics, you may think your cool but you still just a retard

SDB

25psi
05-18-2006, 12:40 PM
A person who doesn't own this car posted it....a ricerfag who comes on here to start shit and "prove" how fast imports are....period.

Driving an import is like winning the special olympics, you may think your cool but you still just a retard

SDB

You Dumb fck. Your brain is the size of mosquito nuts. Yes I did happen to post the video of two cars that are evenly matched. What is the problem with that. I wanted to see an unbiased point of view of the race.

That is the dumbest analogy I have ever heard.

tCTech
05-18-2006, 12:40 PM
I'ld have to say the GT won it. He pulled him plain and simple and it was over when it finally started to get exciting, O'freaken'well.

Dude, SDB, what's your deal? You have a superiority complex or something? Almost every thread I've seen you post in; you come off as a dick. What's up man?

25psi
05-18-2006, 12:40 PM
Its the mosquito nuts syndrom

tCTech
05-18-2006, 12:56 PM
Hey 25PSI. You've got a PM. I like to call it the small penis theory.

25psi
05-18-2006, 01:14 PM
LOL yea I think you called it.

OdessitPashka
05-18-2006, 03:31 PM
A person who doesn't own this car posted it....a ricerfag who comes on here to start shit and "prove" how fast imports are....period.

Driving an import is like winning the special olympics, you may think your cool but you still just a retard

SDB

And being a moron like you isn't any better... :gay:

SDB
05-18-2006, 04:52 PM
I'ld have to say the GT won it. He pulled him plain and simple and it was over when it finally started to get exciting, O'freaken'well.

Dude, SDB, what's your deal? You have a superiority complex or something? Almost every thread I've seen you post in; you come off as a dick. What's up man?

I like to rufle the feathers of 25psi and the other import guys here....and I do think they post this kind of crap here to try to "prove" superiority of imports to domestics, why the hell else would you post a video of a loss and then try to argue why the import should have won???

The ricer crowd here in my city makes me very biased against idiots like many of the import drivers on this site. It seems they always have an excuse, never actually want to race, just talk about how fast their cars are...much teh same way on this board.

SDB

P.S. I would race this 25psi cat anytime he wanted to come up within 3 hours drive of me (NE Indiana), on the street or at the track for some money...

25psi
05-18-2006, 07:34 PM
Unless you have another car other than the ones in your sig, you in twouble.

bboyferal
05-18-2006, 07:49 PM
I read this whole thread and I don't find any "import promoting" nonsense... 25 psi, good posts as always.

OdessitPashka
05-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Unless you have another car other than the ones in your sig, you in twouble.

Haha. I'm not stepping on his side cuz he acts like an asshole towards any import, but I wouldn't mess with his "stock" camaro...

wvutransam
05-18-2006, 08:17 PM
I wouldn't know, I cant see shit...

WS-Sick
05-18-2006, 09:18 PM
Ignore SDB, good post. I would like to see a stock 06 350Z vs. a Stock 06 GT (both manual).

SDB
05-19-2006, 08:31 AM
Unless you have another car other than the ones in your sig, you in twouble.

Just the Camaro...and as I stated before, its not stoc....come on up and see.

sleeperstyle
05-19-2006, 10:12 AM
hey sbd- i think he'd rather dyno race you :jest:. i don't see any track times for 25psi, only sick-madd tyte crazy dyno #'s like every other fucking ricer. :smokin2:

25psi
05-19-2006, 12:41 PM
hey sbd- i think he'd rather dyno race you :jest:. i don't see any track times for 25psi, only sick-madd tyte crazy dyno #'s like every other fucking ricer. :smokin2:


Ok dipsht. My mr2 ran a 11.2 at 131 with a 60ft of 2.1. My 350z at 6.5-7psi ran a 12.3 at 114 with a 2.4 60ft. I haven't had a chance to run it at 10psi, but I'm expecting 118 traps.

SDB
05-19-2006, 03:27 PM
wow...11.2, thats real fast for a light weight car with 667 rwhp!!!

I will give you 4 cars and race you for $500 any time you would like.....hell, I may even go from a roll with you for the hell of it....

SDB

25psi
05-19-2006, 04:03 PM
wow...11.2, thats real fast for a light weight car with 667 rwhp!!!

I will give you 4 cars and race you for $500 any time you would like.....hell, I may even go from a roll with you for the hell of it....

SDB

That was my first time at the track with the car and only had a chance to run it twice. The second run I made which is the 11.2. I slowed down since they said I was going to get kicked out since I didnt have a roll cage. I'm pretty sure I could have run mid 10's at 135-138mph.

If your willing to go to Houston, I would run you.

JerseyLS1TA
05-19-2006, 05:03 PM
350Z lost, end of story.

NemeSS
05-19-2006, 05:29 PM
350Z lost period....
ive raced on 18 in chrome wheels and lost to other cars
also won
but i dont make excuses when i lose :judge:

sleeperstyle
05-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Ok dipsht. My mr2 ran a 11.2 at 131 with a 60ft of 2.1. My 350z at 6.5-7psi ran a 12.3 at 114 with a 2.4 60ft. I haven't had a chance to run it at 10psi, but I'm expecting 118 traps.

that sucks- guess all that dyno racing didn't help your driving skills pussy lips.

Blackss99
05-21-2006, 03:36 PM
Ya know it's always if's and's and but's. Run what ya brung it was close but he lost. Take the 20's off boot the passenger.

SDB
05-21-2006, 04:20 PM
That was my first time at the track with the car and only had a chance to run it twice. The second run I made which is the 11.2. I slowed down since they said I was going to get kicked out since I didnt have a roll cage. I'm pretty sure I could have run mid 10's at 135-138mph.

If your willing to go to Houston, I would run you.

wow a ricer that says will run mid 10's wow, never heard that one before....Houston is too far away....mid 10's is getting closer to being a good race though...keep at it... :jest:

25psi
05-21-2006, 06:15 PM
that sucks- guess all that dyno racing didn't help your driving skills pussy lips.

What the hell are you talking about mosquito nuts. You are really an illiterate,stupid,dumbfck. I really don't understand what you are getting at. Do you think that was me in the vid racing are or you saying I should have worked on my times at the track considering my 60ft times? I only had a chance to run it once at the track(mr2 no roll cage) and the 350z, it was my first time ever out with it. That night I only ran it twice. But all of these where done on street tires.

GXPPOWER
05-21-2006, 07:10 PM
05+ gt stangs trap higher than 350zs and for the most part have better ET's in the 1/4 stock for stock.

sleeperstyle
05-21-2006, 07:11 PM
fucking retard- 650 + rwhp and runs on street tires.

whatever you say though pussy lips :jest:

GXPPOWER
05-21-2006, 07:12 PM
05+ gt stangs trap higher than 350zs and for the most part have better ET's in the 1/4 stock for stock.

when i had my 2005 Grand Prix GXP i pulled a 350z from a 70 mph roll.
i had a FWI and alittle exhuast work as my only mods.

now i have heard than after 120 mph a 350z actually gains momentum for a short period. not sure why must be the gearing. but then again that never gonna help them anyhow.

25psi
05-21-2006, 07:22 PM
fucking retard- 650 + rwhp and runs on street tires.

whatever you say though pussy lips :jest:

You do understand the drivetrain layout of the mr2 right dumbfck. In case you didn't know it is a mid engine car. Most people do not run slicks becuase of that configuration. Why in the fuck would I need drag radials, if I don't have a roll cage "Mosquito nuts"?

sleeperstyle
05-21-2006, 08:16 PM
You do understand the drivetrain layout of the mr2 right dumbfck. In case you didn't know it is a mid engine car. Most people do not run slicks becuase of that configuration. Why in the fuck would I need drag radials, if I don't have a roll cage "Mosquito nuts"?

:funny:

i dunno why you might need drag radials- maybe the 2.1 60ft made me think so you simple motherfucker :jest:

stf my ass. you havn't talked much shit at all and i've been laying into you pretty good for the SOLE reason that your sig says stf. i vote you get kicked off stf. you bring nothing to the table pussy lips.

DemitriHKS
05-22-2006, 01:03 AM
Alright I would say this "pussy lips" thing and "Mesquito nuts" thing may be getting old (even though Mesquito nuts is a pretty funny saying). You guys should meet halfway and have at it. 25PSI has been on here for a while and has made plenty of good posts. And this thread started with something good and ended totally different. When it comes down to it fighting a on forum like this is just :supergay:

Domestic Demon
05-22-2006, 01:15 AM
Bottom line is the modded 350Z lost to a stock Mustang GT in every race.

The Mustang is the faster, more powerful car - I don't see what the arguement is about.

bboyferal
05-22-2006, 02:18 AM
Agreed, by a very small margin.

OdessitPashka
05-22-2006, 02:27 AM
Bottom line is the modded 350Z lost to a stock Mustang GT in every race.

The Mustang is the faster, more powerful car - I don't see what the arguement is about.

They have the same amount of power, but GT has more torque, which is needed for a little more weight that GT has over 350z and better gearing and aerodynamics in 350z. I say that stock to stock it's a driver's race with slight adventage to GT.

tCTech
05-22-2006, 08:44 AM
doesn't this thread need to be closed yet? this is getting really :wrist: watching all of you argue. thought this was about the 350z and the stang.

25psi, just stop man. your being mildly trolled and entertaining these guy's like all hell.

Domestic Demon
05-22-2006, 01:08 PM
They have the same amount of power, but GT has more torque, which is needed for a little more weight that GT has over 350z and better gearing and aerodynamics in 350z. I say that stock to stock it's a driver's race with slight adventage to GT.

Only the brand new ones with the manual transmission have 300HP. The older ones, or the new ones with the autos, only have 287HP. Torque is also only 260, even on the new ones, which is down 60ft/lbs to the Mustang GT.

Nothing like a V8 :drive:

OdessitPashka
05-22-2006, 04:55 PM
This was a brand new one and with 6sp tranny. And those 60ft/lbs of torque could be made up with less weight, better aerodynamics, and better gearing. So, once again stock for stock should be very close.

Nothing like a V8 my ass. I love my V8, but some European and Japanese cars some those 6 cyl pretty damn powerful and can definitely hang with big v8 boys.

CTSVSL65AMG
05-22-2006, 05:45 PM
I don't think the z lost. The gt shut down early becuase he knew he was getting reeled in.

Lets take a closer look.

GT. 300hp 320tq 0 passengers

350z. 287-300hp 270tq. 1 passenger and 20in rims

Look closely at the last race. You can clearly tell the z was pulling before the gt let out.


Who cares, they are both slow cars, it was a battle of attrition.

Domestic Demon
05-22-2006, 07:16 PM
Who cares, they are both slow cars, it was a battle of attrition.

Since when is 13.5 at 105MPH slow??

Come back to reality there buddy...stock street cars don't run 10's.

25psi
05-22-2006, 10:03 PM
This was a brand new one and with 6sp tranny. And those 60ft/lbs of torque could be made up with less weight, better aerodynamics, and better gearing. So, once again stock for stock should be very close.

Nothing like a V8 my ass. I love my V8, but some European and Japanese cars some those 6 cyl pretty damn powerful and can definitely hang with big v8 boys.

I think a m3 would take an ls1.

bboyferal
05-22-2006, 10:39 PM
At what? On a road course, stock for stock, sure... But on the quarter?

Hoss Ghoul
05-22-2006, 11:03 PM
Interestingly the new M3 will be packing a V8, not an inline six.

Asmodeus
05-23-2006, 12:09 AM
Well, if the 350z didn't have a passenger, and the 20 inch rims, and the Mustang had his air filter pointed in the other direction and the wind was blowing out of the northwest, and the square root of 20 was really grape juice, and....


:givesfuck

burnzilla
05-23-2006, 12:30 AM
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Grave461/7884f548.jpg

DemitriHKS
05-23-2006, 12:41 AM
^ now thats some funny shit!

Cgillies86
05-23-2006, 12:46 AM
I think a m3 would take an ls1.
Maybe an auto f-body bone stock. A ls1 vette has a better power to weight ratio than a m3 and is more aerodynamic. So, it depends on which ls1.

I am refering to the inline six m3.

wickedwarlock
05-23-2006, 09:50 AM
I think a m3 would take an ls1.

The new one no doubt. But then again, I don't think it will take the new gto. Hopefully that new camaro is coming. :devil:

OdessitPashka
05-23-2006, 10:58 AM
I think a m3 would take an ls1.

Just like other guys said, it depends on which LS1. I haven't heard any stock m3 running in 12's, and there are plenty of LS1's that do, but there are also plenty of LS1's that run in high 13's or even 14's comparing to M3's low 14's-mind 13's.

CTSVSL65AMG
05-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Since when is 13.5 at 105MPH slow??

Come back to reality there buddy...stock street cars don't run 10's.


Neither of those cars run 13.5 in the 1/4 stock....well omaybe one example in 10 . I never said they had to be 10 second cars to be fast. But a rustang Gt and a Z are not what I think of when if comes to fast stock cars.

wickedwarlock
05-23-2006, 02:49 PM
Neither of those cars run 13.5 in the 1/4 stock....well omaybe one example in 10 . I never said they had to be 10 second cars to be fast. But a rustang Gt and a Z are not what I think of when if comes to fast stock cars.

the new mustang gt does. :judge:

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/8778/ford-mustang-gt-page4.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0504_2005_ford_mustang_gt_convertible/specs_price.html

I haven't seen any 350z run that. But I bet it does for the new one coming with more power or it will be damn close.

CTSVSL65AMG
05-23-2006, 04:43 PM
barely....on a good day with a pro driver... not one of these drivers.

DemitriHKS
05-23-2006, 06:03 PM
Most common 1/4 you'll see is a 13.7-13.9 at around 101 or so on a Z. Not bad, Not great I guess.

slick1851
05-23-2006, 06:29 PM
Both were bad drivers and both are slow cars, 350Zs need alot of cash put into them to make them decent.

Hell there turbo kits arent cheap what so ever, and boltons really dont make the car a LS1 killer..

OdessitPashka
05-24-2006, 09:54 PM
Both were bad drivers and both are slow cars, 350Zs need alot of cash put into them to make them decent.

Hell there turbo kits arent cheap what so ever, and boltons really dont make the car a LS1 killer..

All you need is nitrous and tires to make 350Z a LS1 killer :)

SDB
05-24-2006, 10:20 PM
wow, put a bottle and stickies on a piece of shit import, and it might take a stock LS1....wow....it never ceases to amaze me....now tell us again how its only a 6 cylinder and its so impressive....

fucking import mindset...make excuses, and "what if" and "well, it could" statements...it never ever ends...

OdessitPashka
05-24-2006, 10:32 PM
6cyl camaro is not impressive, but a 6 cyl that makes 300hp stock is pretty damn good. Stop hating on imports...

Domestic Demon
05-24-2006, 11:30 PM
6cyl camaro is not impressive, but a 6 cyl that makes 300hp stock is pretty damn good. Stop hating on imports...

Heres a hint: You're on LS1tech.com.

People generally aren't going to be huge fans of imports, deal with it :eyes:

OdessitPashka
05-25-2006, 09:20 AM
Heres a hint: You're on LS1tech.com.

People generally aren't going to be huge fans of imports, deal with it :eyes:

So what? It's stupid to think that anything other than LS1 is garbage. To each their own and there is no need to make someone else think that their car is worse than yours...

CTSVSL65AMG
05-25-2006, 10:17 AM
So what? It's stupid to think that anything other than LS1 is garbage. To each their own and there is no need to make someone else think that their car is worse than yours...

I have owned gobs of imports.

2000 Integra Type R
2000 S2000
1997 NSX-T
2003 G35 Coupe w/ Stillen SC
2004 Z (track model)
2002 WRX

After getting an LS6 I will NEVER go back. I was very anti domestic and used the whole "my import makes more HP per liter" "my import handles better" "my import get better milage" blah blah...

Well I can tell you this. Both my domestics handle phenominally, and the caddy get 28 mpg communting in 6th gear. Not bad for a 400 hp pushrod. Not to mention it will out brake and out handle the vast majority of imports.

The Z is a nice car, its not slow, but its def. not fast. It can be made to go fast...AS CAN ANY FREAKING CAR...I saw an ASTRO Van run a 10 sec 1/4 on pinks..

I personally will probably never buy import again. Domestic reliablility, handling, and value are way up.

God Bless America! :-P

DemitriHKS
05-25-2006, 08:34 PM
Thats an honest answer for you right there. I agree and respect what you said there. Plus, Oddess your right about anything else other than LS1's being garbage, it's not true.......but realize that your a visitor on here if you don't have an LSX motor, and even if things are said that you don't agree with you kinda just have to take it. Ya know what i'm saying......That's why I check this one out first and if I see something I don't like or something I don't agree with; I just go to my forum where these guys are visitors lol.

superchargedramair
05-25-2006, 09:55 PM
Imports are for fags. If you cant afford a real car than get off this site.

slick1851
05-25-2006, 10:10 PM
Imports are for fags. If you cant afford a real car than get off this site.

Gayest post ever :barf:

bboyferal
05-26-2006, 07:10 AM
Yeah, that wasn't the least bit creative. :nono: