Abdulla

Hi all ,

now if we have a bone stock car ...... let say just ported mad and ported TB

If he went something like 13.1 with Long tube haders , what will be his E.T. with short headers ??? will be better or worse ??? I mean he has a stock internal car , does the LT headers giving him more power than short headers ??

I think LT headers for modified cars , what you think guys ??

thanks

RPM WS6

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Always go with a mid or LT header. Shorties are a total waste of money for power gain, IMO. Stock LS1 manifolds will perform as good as any shorty header.

Abdulla

thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

so , mid or LT for stock internal ??

Boo Yeah

The Sig says it all, LT are the best.

M3EATER

Abdulla,

The long tube headers will give you a broader power range and more peak power than the mid length design.

I just can't see spending the $$$ and time to install anything other than a well designed full long tube header set.

You may like these ones....

Gordon
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RPM WS6

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by M3EATER:
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The long tube headers will give you a broader power range and more peak power than the mid length design.

I just can't see spending the $$$ and time to install anything other than a well designed full long tube header set.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have to disagree with this. Too many people making great numbers with mids even on H/C setups. I have also seen some gain peak power with mids over certain LTs, though midrage was better with the LTs in that case.

Either way though, don't disguard mids. They offer very nice gains at ANY level. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Silver Bullet 8150

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well in my opinion, if ur gonna get headers y not go for the best, QTP headers are the best out there, and u will see some nice gains with them...there is no clearence issues and they r very easy to install...only just 2 more weeks till mine come in....a big thanks to Barry at QTP for my headers and other great ideas for my car <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

M3EATER

I'll have some dyno #s for ya soon.... want to do all combos of y-pipes on the same day...(2.5", 3", cats, no cats, open..).

should be interesting..

Gordon
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Trojan T/A

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I am going to have to disagree with most of these comments on shorties. On a stock car, as long as you plan to leave it with only bolt ons, I would say that the shorties would be just as close as the long tubes in a fair comparison. The problem with the shorties is that most people leave the stock exhaust after them which is the main difference in LTs. With shorties, no cats, and a bigger y-pipe or duals, I would expect nearly identical gains compared to a LT system on a bolt-on or stock car. No one I believe has done this but I do plan to eventually get there. My choice of header is the new BBK Shorty with 1 3/4 in. primaries. These will soon be available and I have seen and felt gains with them and my only other mod is a lid. With high flow cats or no cats and a bigger y pipe I'd bet there is as much to be gained as LTs.

Keep looking into different exhaust setups if you are worried about emissions or loudness and talk to the people with shorties. Most people that purchase them are very pleased with their results and recommend them. If emissions arent a problem or you plan to go internal then mids or LTs may be a better choice.

Fahad

I'm agree with your point Trojan T/A .

Thanks Abdulla

HITMANSS

Have to agree w/ Trojan, but only up to a point. I have Hooker shorties (1-5/8"), w/ an SLP Y-pipe, stock cats, Y2Y dual-dual. I only picked up 6 HP at install, but after LOTS of tuning I dynoed at 360 HP, through the closed exhaust, still w/ a stock cam. Shorties need tuning to really shine.

However, I still think that mids & LT's will produce more power. I have a set of MACs & an ORY on the shelf, and will be testing this out very soon on the dyno, before & after. I will post the results.

Abdulla

you welcome Fahad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

any way , I think here you can find a great information for you

good luck

The Emperor Of Darkness

salam Abdulla,
man call me ASAP. I wanna know if you still have your stock throttle body??? I need one...
Ahmad