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Old 06-01-2006, 11:58 AM
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I just over the weekend picked up my red 99 SS M6. I was pulling out of my buddies sub onto a 5 lane highway (m59) and this kid pulls up next to me in an 05-06 GT and wants to run em'. i wasn't going to but its hard to back out of an almost gurantee kill. Light turns green and i gotta obviously granny it outta the whole to keep them from spinning by 5200 in first gear i had a nose on him, grabbed second and had him by a car and a half by 5500 in second. half way through third i had 2 lengths easy on him and shut it down around what had to be 75. I'm pretty much boner stock with factory SLP exhaust. I also did the usual free mods (whisper lid and maf screen removal). He was at a very distinct disadvantage though. He was driving and mustang.


p.s. how do i insert pics
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well u would have killed him more if u drove the car to its potential, tach that thing up to 6100. in 2nd gear i can go 70mph.
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Nice kill. Im not sure why Ford didnt atleast put a 5.4 in the new pos. They are fast for 9 years ago. An 05 GT vs a 97 LT1 Camaro. Damn Ford, its 2006 already, family sedans have 300hp, thats a goal for a V6. Enough ranting. Good kill.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
Nice kill. Im not sure why Ford didnt atleast put a 5.4 in the new pos. They are fast for 9 years ago. An 05 GT vs a 97 LT1 Camaro. Damn Ford, its 2006 already, family sedans have 300hp, thats a goal for a V6. Enough ranting. Good kill.
Its not a P.O.S but a 6 speed would have served it better.
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GM seems to be planning a 300bhp 5.3L for their new Camaro...
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i doubt that they will take a step back from the previous generation cars. espescially since a huge portion of there customer base will be previous 4th gen owners who are used to 310 horse "under-rated" cars.
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So.......where are the Mustang guys that are supposed to come running to defend the death of this Mustang?

Oh, and nice kill!
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There no need to defend the Mustang's death against an LS1, the LS1 is the faster vehicle.

However, that doesn't mean the Mustang is a "piece of crap" by any means. Where else can you get a 300HP RWD Muscle car for $24K?? The F-Body is all gone, so thats out of the picture. The Mustang is still a good value and a fast car, just not as fast as an LS1 F-Body
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
GM seems to be planning a 300bhp 5.3L for their new Camaro...
I wouldn't be shocked with all new laws out by then.

Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
There no need to defend the Mustang's death against an LS1, the LS1 is the faster vehicle.

However, that doesn't mean the Mustang is a "piece of crap" by any means. Where else can you get a 300HP RWD Muscle car for $24K?? The F-Body is all gone, so thats out of the picture. The Mustang is still a good value and a fast car, just not as fast as an LS1 F-Body
Amen!

New GTs do make me drool too what a pretty car.


Good story and nice kills those GTs are no slouch. They so should have had a 6 spd though.
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The new mustang GT's dyno around 280 whp on every dyno I have seen for an M5. Come on guys, its NOT SLOW, just not quite as fast as the LS1's. It is also a tad heavier.
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Yea, the Mustang is still alive due to a large part of women buying them. So you guys feel a car made in 2005-06 that only comes within 80% of a rival produced in 1998 is a good thing? Weak, and I drive a Mustang. 6 speed or not, a 5.4 with 340hp should have been the entry level GT.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
6 speed or not, a 5.4 with 340hp should have been the entry level GT.
But ask yourself why? From a business perspective, it doesn't make
sense. Ford is already over build capacity with the current model.
Sales certainly aren't suffering as a result of the 3V 4.6L. It would
just cost more to manufacture with the 5.4L and profit margins would
be that much less.
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All the car needs is a blower and wala! 500hp. I love the new styled stangs. I do hope the new camaro comes with the corvette motor for 400hp tho, it would be sheer idiocy to do otherwise, finally ford would be close to even with GM and who wants that?
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Yeah a disadvantage cause he was in a mustang!!! thats the funniest thing ive heard in a long time lol I love people that sterotype and have absolutly no idea what they are talking about!! It makes me giggle.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
GM seems to be planning a 300bhp 5.3L for their new Camaro...
and a ls2 option at 400+hp.
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Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
and a ls2 option at 400+hp.
The Ls2 is not going to make it for 09 and the new rules I thought?

I think Unit is right but a 6spd couldn't have been too much more work and really improved a great car.
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Originally Posted by Ace$nyper
The Ls2 is not going to make it for 09 and the new rules I thought?

I think Unit is right but a 6spd couldn't have been too much more work and really improved a great car.
that was their original plan before they even metioned the 5.3L. It may change for the vette, but I don't think they will scrap it just yet.
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Originally Posted by unit213
But ask yourself why? From a business perspective, it doesn't make
sense. Ford is already over build capacity with the current model.
Sales certainly aren't suffering as a result of the 3V 4.6L. It would
just cost more to manufacture with the 5.4L and profit margins would
be that much less.
I just wanted to make a mild statement for some of the guys who bash the GT. I dont like them and wouldnt buy one even if it had our engine in it but it DOES do well for only 4.6 liters. If it were a 5.4 then that would really make up that 2 car lead most stock LS1 guys have over one. In other words, they do VERY well with a handicap and dont seem to care about having the smaller engine.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
I just wanted to make a mild statement for some of the guys who bash the GT. I dont like them and wouldnt buy one even if it had our engine in it but it DOES do well for only 4.6 liters. If it were a 5.4 then that would really make up that 2 car lead most stock LS1 guys have over one. In other words, they do VERY well with a handicap and dont seem to care about having the smaller engine.
I'm not bashing the new GT but Ford pretty much has the RWD 2door Coupe V8 market to themselves and I think they count on that way too much. With the new 05/06 Mustang they should have closed the door on that 4.6L for good and just put in the 5.4L.

Yeah the 4.6L does well for it's size. But hell so does my 2.0L WRX motor.. Doesn't mean I still wouldn't rather have the 2.5L STi motor.

It atleast should have been an option IMHO.
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You guys are missing a VERY LARGE PART of this picture. What if Ford HAD put a 5.4L in the new mustang GT and rated the bugger at 375 bhp? What then? I'll tell you, GM would never consider the 5.3, they would put in an LS2 (of which there is no plan to do so right now officially). THen what? Then Ford would have been outclassed. The mustang is slated to be redesigned in 09. FOr once Ford plans to rape GM and 1-2 years after GM's 5.3 "slightly faster" than the 4.6 mustang comes out, FOrd is going to spit out a 5.4L re-designed car and GM will be kissing *** for the next 2-4 years.


Thats just a guess, but its how I think Ford COULD be stacking the deck in their favor...



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