Street Racing & Kill Stories - Anyone know anything about BMWs? Not M3, or Z3

There is a new guy at work with some type of bimmer, I can't tell what type it is, something like a 300 or 500 series. I can't tell the damn things apart with all the frickin models.
But anyways, all I know is that it's a 97, four door, supercharged 4 poper running 10-15lbs, with exhaust. The kid says he has about $22k into it. When I asked him what he has done to it, he can't remember anything about it. Most of the work is visual I believe, it has a sound system in it, lowered, two-tone leather, and a body kit on it. He says he took it to some BMW dealership and had all the work done to it.

Everyone at work is making a huge deal out of it, and almost everyone is about to put money on this kids side. The kid isn't talking any crap yet, as he doesn't know shit about cars (daddy has a little too much money, the kid is a 19yo) when I tried talking to him about it.

He said he would bring in the list on what's done to it on Monday, the only thing that makes me kinda afraid of this car is the supercharger. So anyone have an idea on what to expect?

raaaaaaaace it! Only way to be sure.

BUT, you'll probably win. 19 yo kid, just got the car, knows nothing of it, and probably doesn't know how to drive it. Easy pickins.

IT is a 4cylinder from 97 with an SC. The S2000 has a MUCH!!! meaner 4-banger and with an SC most lay down less than 300rwhp. I doubt he is much meaner. Also, BMW dealerships dont do that kind of hardcore modding do they!?

BMW dealerships dont do that kind of hardcore modding!

That should be a statement. not a question. Unless it's like, tommy kaira or some crazy batshit "send it in for a year" kind of thing.

I'll probably end up racing him no problem. I figured it would be about as quick as a GTP.

That should be a statement. not a question. Unless it's like, tommy kaira or some crazy batshit "send it in for a year" kind of thing.

It was some BMW place in Chicago I guess.

You should win.

You should win.

That's what I thought about that SRT-4 as well.

SRT4 > 9 year old BMW owned by 19yo.

SRT4 > 9 year old BMW owned by 19yo.

Concur. Anyway, I predict a win too.

It takes a crap load of work to make those fast. A friend of mine has an 02 325CI that he's gonna add FI too (he isn't sure about turbo or SC though). The SC will take him up to around 400rwhp, but he has to get his engine forged. The cars are heavy too. A 97 prolly doesn't put down as much power either. I think he was at about 180rwhp stock? It's pretty sad. I'm gonna race the guy when he puts on his nitrous kit in a couple weeks. And he won't let me spray, I've only got intake, exhaust, and headers.

I've got a n2o kit on the way, so now I'm really not concerned lol!

I asked him if the engine was rebuilt with forged internals, and he said he didn't know.

if its a superchargerd 4 banger, its almost certainly a 318i with a roots style blower made by downing atlanta. i considered getting one for my 92 318i. they take the meager 142 hp engine to a modest 215 (if i remember right). still signifigantly slower than a m3 of the same year. he could have some other goodies packed onto that thing though, but it would have to be some major work just to hang with a stock f-bod let alone a modded one. they arent made for speed, and your gonna prove it to him.

Did 318ti's come in four door models ? Thought they was all that limp looking stubby tail ended two door / hatch thing... Lot's of guys thought my old 325is was a 4 popper.. inline 6 tho, and no 5 series that I know of has a 4 cylinder, altho I am far from the end all be all of bavarian car knowledge..Just a thought, if its a supercharged 540 you could have a handful :) The way it works, ( so I am told) the first number is the body designation 3 = smaller body, 5 = midsize sedan, 6 midsize coupe etc etc. and the second set of digits is displacement 3(25) depending on model 2.5 L or 2.7 litre 5(35) 3.5 litre (v6?) 5(40) small v8 ( peppy too ) been a bit since I owned one and paid much attention, so things may have changed :drive: also a S/C 330 ci could make ya pay attention too Look for anything that says Dinan on it :shrug: Hope some of that helps

if its a superchargerd 4 banger, its almost certainly a 318i with a roots style blower made by downing atlanta. i considered getting one for my 92 318i. they take the meager 142 hp engine to a modest 215 (if i remember right). still signifigantly slower than a m3 of the same year. he could have some other goodies packed onto that thing though, but it would have to be some major work just to hang with a stock f-bod let alone a modded one. they arent made for speed, and your gonna prove it to him.

Yes, it has the Downing blower on it. I couldn't remember the name of it.

So uh.... When are you racing?

and... whens his car come out of the "shop" or is it already and he's just to afraid to race....?

Maybe tonight, depends if we get off work at the same time.

the SOM can neva l0se.

Well the kid drove a different car today, and forgot to bring the list of work done to it. I know for sure now that it is the 3 series.

Forgot. to. bring. list. I'm smelling Poser.

Sounds like a 318 with Downing Atlanta Supercharger. The motor is a 1.9l I4 which makes 140hp at the crank. DASC pushes about 7psi stock, you can get smaller pullies, and there are companies out there that offer packages with pullies/injectors/reprogramming etc. With supercharger + 10psi, plus your regular bolt ons the car is probably putting out around 200rwhp.

Why do I know this......this is the setup I used to run. The supercharger package goes for around $3,500, 10psi pulley plus associated upgrades is another $1,200 ro so add some suspension upgrades, basic wheel/tire upgrades, brake upgrades, drivetrain upgrades, rollbar plus a few cosmetic items you'll spend $15-20k.

http://www.hasanmotorsports.com/images/dasc3.jpg

Awesome info Joe. le sigh, he did not drive the car again today. I don't think I'll be racing him anytime soon.

Awesome info Joe. le sigh, he did not drive the car again today. I don't think I'll be racing him anytime soon.


If he was thinking he can beat an LSx powered anything in a straight line he's high. With my previous setup my car weighed in the low 2,700's and against lesser drivers or drivers unfamiliar w/ the Glen I could hang or sometimes pass some C5's. However given equal drivers, and even with my weight advantage I was always behind C5's....by quite a sizeable margin :(

If its a 4 cylinder its the 1.8L. In the words of Vorshlag performance, its a weak-nut turd of a motor. Its big, overcomplicated, and weak. He is running a E36 318i, and he is slow. Period.

If its a 4 cylinder its the 1.8L. In the words of Vorshlag performance, its a weak-nut turd of a motor. Its big, overcomplicated, and weak. He is running a E36 318i, and he is slow. Period.



1997 = M44 1.9l :)

If he was thinking he can beat an LSx powered anything in a straight line he's high. With my previous setup my car weighed in the low 2,700's and against lesser drivers or drivers unfamiliar w/ the Glen I could hang or sometimes pass some C5's. However given equal drivers, and even with my weight advantage I was always behind C5's....by quite a sizeable margin :(

This guy has a system in his car and not gutted or anything to that degree. I think the weight between the two cars are pretty close. But once again, he didn't drive the car today. At the rate he's going, I'll have my n2o on before I get to run him.

This guy has a system in his car and not gutted or anything to that degree. I think the weight between the two cars are pretty close. But once again, he didn't drive the car today. At the rate he's going, I'll have my n2o on before I get to run him.

Yeah, I wouldn't waste my time or gas on him....

raaaaaaaace it! Only way to be sure.

BUT, you'll probably win. 19 yo kid, just got the car, knows nothing of it, and probably doesn't know how to drive it. Easy pickins.


Careful...people thought the same thing when i had my 94 cobra with bolt ons at 19....hurt a lot of feelings.....

Yet another day he didn't drive the car. Maybe the car is really mommy and daddy's.

If its a 4 cylinder its the 1.8L. In the words of Vorshlag performance, its a weak-nut turd of a motor. Its big, overcomplicated, and weak. He is running a E36 318i, and he is slow. Period.

welcome to the world of german engineering. overrated pieces of shit, and try fixing one. $$$$$$$$$$

VW's a great example. let's make a strong motor and an electrical system that just doesn't work. shitty cars.

no way he'll win. btw JB i like your car.

^They have some great stuff, but Im not a fan of that particular motor. Some of the BMW stuff can take a pretty high level of abuse and make great power with moderate forced induction.

And of course the fact that Mercedes really makes more cars with psycho V8s than anyone else.

^They have some great stuff, but Im not a fan of that particular motor. Some of the BMW stuff can take a pretty high level of abuse and make great power with moderate forced induction.

And of course the fact that Mercedes really makes more cars with psycho V8s than anyone else.
That's true and I have great respect for many German cars although to me they are all far too clinical, sterile and lacking in passion. They are all just a sea of horris plastic inside, usually black or grey and really have very little character. Even the outside is pretty dull on most German cars, espcially BMW, VW and Audi.

But yeah 318's are horrid it's the sort of thing a dull account aspires to own thinging it'll make them cool when really they aren't.

In the UK BMW's seem to have some kind of ultra cool image with a certain class of people. People who actually have a life just refer to them as "wanker-mobiles" :lol:

that's the thing about german cars though. they'll have one great component and the rest will be total garbage. they'll design a great engine and a tranny that sucks, an electrical system that doesn't work...and they get the weirdest problems - like windshield wiper motors blowing out - seriously. i wouldn't waste my money on one. they're ridiculously expensive to fix also and make our cars look easy to work on.

Choco, compared to most, your cars ARE easy to work on...

Hey, Want's an LS1, There's a BIG difference between doing, and talking like this kid is. You DID the talking AND the walking. This kid seems to just be talking..... and that's it.... SO, he's more than likely inexperienced to a terrible degree, and partly retarded as well. In other words, he's :gay: ...