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Old 06-12-2006, 12:59 AM
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hey i have a 00 TA and am planning on getting a set of headers for it soon and will probably go with the off road application but was wondering what the point or advantage/disadvantage of having EGR/AIR
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no EGR/AIR means less clutter under the hood and less **** to worry about...i dont think i've ever heard of a benefit unless it you have strict emissions laws.
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Originally Posted by spy2520
no EGR/AIR means less clutter under the hood and less **** to worry about...i dont think i've ever heard of a benefit unless it you have strict emissions laws.
what he siad. get rid of it and save nearly 20lbs.
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there's no clear advantage... you will have to tune them out though
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thanx guys so QTP off road headers should work fine for me?
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wow...https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/500407-egr-air-o2-sensors-motor-tranny-mount-faq.html
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Yeah, they will work fine. You will need to just have your codes shut off/deleted. The Air and EGR crap is just one more thing under the hood that doesnt really allow you any advantages....just a big hinderance IMO.
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There are zero advantages to having AIR and EGR, that is why everyone takes them off and tunes them out. Why would there be an advantage? they are only to help control emissions...so I guess if you feel you are heavily contributing to global warming you should leave them on, but if that is the case you should buy a honda, or up the horsepower and ride your bike...
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sry jpat1023 but im only 17 i dont know all these things yet....
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Sorry did that come off sarcastic? I really didnt mean to be a smartass towards you, I just dont really like the fact that they were put on the car in the first place, ya know?

And I've been at work all day, that never helps the mood...
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I will remove them from my car when i get LT
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Little off topic but does any one know what changes were made between 00 and 01 engines as to why they took off egr after 00?? does the emissions really raise enough to fail a 00 car without the egr?
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Originally Posted by 00'WS6Rocket
Little off topic but does any one know what changes were made between 00 and 01 engines as to why they took off egr after 00?? does the emissions really raise enough to fail a 00 car without the egr?
Hard to say. Maybe it was a cheaper manufacturing technique in the begining. Plus the 01 has an LS6 intake.
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Originally Posted by 00'WS6Rocket
Little off topic but does any one know what changes were made between 00 and 01 engines as to why they took off egr after 00?? does the emissions really raise enough to fail a 00 car without the egr?
i dont think so, i think if you had a visual and the person doing the test knew what to look for on each year you would fail. but i doubt not having EGR would change the actual emissions that much. considering not much difference between a 98-00 and 01-02 in terms of things that would affect the EGR system(besides the fact that it is not there on 01-02), i think they just decided to get rid of it...
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Yup, I'd take them out. I just took off the whole AIR system on my 02 Z. Cleans up the engine bay a little and reduces weight, if only by a little.
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you guys know if the car runs differently after removing these? I'm thinking about doin it, but don't know when i'll be able to get the codes deleted for it.. would it be drivable?
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Most definitely drivable without that stuff. You can't even tell a difference and it doesn't drive any differently. Only thing is you'll have the SES light on, which scares some people, but isn't a big deal.
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Originally Posted by 00'WS6Rocket
Little off topic but does any one know what changes were made between 00 and 01 engines as to why they took off egr after 00?? does the emissions really raise enough to fail a 00 car without the egr?
they changed the cam in 01 and apparently it didnt need it after the diferent cam, the better ls6 intake made up for the different cam. i read it was a slightly smaller cam to increase durability and the better emisions came with it.
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So if I delete my EGR, is there a way to make it look like the 01-02 under the hood so I could pass any inspection? or do they have block off's and such too. Would there be a need to clear any codes after and LS6 manifold and egr delete?
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It was the cam, but I beleive it has a longer duration than the 98-02 models. That is why those cars, combined with the LS6 intake and better manifiolds will tend to dyno better stock numbers than 98-00 cars.

Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
they changed the cam in 01 and apparently it didnt need it after the diferent cam, the better ls6 intake made up for the different cam. i read it was a slightly smaller cam to increase durability and the better emisions came with it.



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