Florida Members - Where to have tranny built in Orlando area???




leftme4dead
06-12-2006, 09:38 AM
Ok, I have a stock tranny for now. Some people we know recommended Kenny Wells here in Orlando. Is he good? Does anyone recommend anyone else in this area to have my tranny built?


97blkz
06-12-2006, 10:55 AM
It's in Tampa but I swear by these guys , Transmission Physcians, 813 835 8728.

see my sig!

Richie Carbone
06-12-2006, 11:32 AM
Ok, I have a stock tranny for now. Some people we know recommended Kenny Wells here in Orlando. Is he good? Does anyone recommend anyone else in this area to have my tranny built?


Do not use Ken Wells to rebuild a 4L60, If you're going the TH 400 route he knows his shit.

You would be better off sending it off to Mike Curtz at Century in Texas.
I think his transmissions come with a 6 month racing warranty.

Good luck.


02 Pewter LS1
06-12-2006, 12:28 PM
Come over to Melbourne and have Dave Burgess build it for you. I have one of his built trannys and so do a few other friends and they are holding up just fine. Most of the guys with cars around our area use him. He has a Nova that runs in the 8's so he knows his shit.

leftme4dead
06-12-2006, 01:11 PM
how much am I looking at spending to have mine built? Will it hold 600-700rwhp?

Predator T/A
06-12-2006, 04:12 PM
hey bro i can build it for ya and it will be strong i do it out of my house so i can do it for a fair price prolly around 850 or 9 give me a call i will pm the number and talk more about it to ya

Predator T/A
06-12-2006, 04:15 PM
btw i live in orlando also

97blkz
06-12-2006, 10:00 PM
Transmissio Phycians 1 year warrant , sprayed , raced it dont matter! I have had mine for about 40 passes and lots of street use.

ChevPower
06-12-2006, 10:30 PM
hey bro i can build it for ya and it will be strong i do it out of my house so i can do it for a fair price prolly around 850 or 9 give me a call i will pm the number and talk more about it to ya


Let me get this right you can build a 4l60e to handle 600-700 hp for 850???
Give us some info, I give you a stock 4l60e and I get back what?

J&J Motorsports FL
06-12-2006, 10:59 PM
I know of a killer tranny guy in lakeland/plant city area. Knows his shit and builds bad ass racing trannys. He builds all the transmissions for my shop. PM me for more info.

Predator T/A
06-13-2006, 12:32 PM
[QUOTE=ChevPower]Let me get this right you can build a 4l60e to handle
i deleted this becuase i didnt want to cause any problems on the board
however the 4l60 is not practical for use in a 700 hp car it WILL shatter it will make some good runs but again it is a weak built tranny it has no center case support and uses sun shell.....the th 400 would be more practical it will hold 500 stock and with someone who knows what they are doing there are alot of modificatrions that can be done to the 400 as far as VB mods and more clutches

gator's 99TA
06-13-2006, 12:50 PM
lol @ corvette servo! nice!

predator, you are coming too close to advertising for yourself. its against board rules unless you want to pay for sponsership

Predator T/A
06-13-2006, 01:25 PM
aight cool i was just trying to help out some people here i dont work for a shop nor do i own one my father built trannies all his life i built them with him since i was 12 and i am 30 now i dont really do this for public i ususally just do it for my own projects and for friends and family but i am trying to buy a house right now and could use the extra money...........and the corvette servo what is wrong with that? it has more surface apply area and does work

gator's 99TA
06-13-2006, 06:32 PM
i see it in every basic performance rebuild and i dont think it helps. just my opinion. i dont build 4L60e trannys, i just race them

ChevPower
06-13-2006, 07:04 PM
[QUOTE=ChevPower]Let me get this right you can build a 4l60e to handle
i deleted this becuase i didnt want to cause any problems on the board
however the 4l60 is not practical for use in a 700 hp car it WILL shatter it will make some good runs but again it is a weak built tranny it has no center case support and uses sun shell.....the th 400 would be more practical it will hold 500 stock and with someone who knows what they are doing there are alot of modificatrions that can be done to the 400 as far as VB mods and more clutches
I am still runing a 4l60e and my car puts down more than 700rwhp and is a daily driver, atleast 100 passes and 10,000 miles but it has failed 3 times in that time frame, 2 pumps but that was my fault i was playing with line pressures around the 280 mark and one out put shaft broke in half, other than that it works great cuts low 1.30 60fts and has been 6.02 in the 1/8 mile. I do think I or we can build a 4l60e to handle 700+hp but not for $850.00 thats all.

VSGLS1
06-13-2006, 09:29 PM
Come over to Melbourne and have Dave Burgess build it for you. I have one of his built trannys and so do a few other friends and they are holding up just fine. Most of the guys with cars around our area use him. He has a Nova that runs in the 8's so he knows his shit.
He does great work!

blacktransam
06-14-2006, 06:11 AM
mine will be visiting dave burgess in about a week..

Mike

Predator T/A
06-14-2006, 12:10 PM
all i can say is if i were braket racing/drag racing i doubt very seriously i would be running a 4l60e and as you said it has broken and it will again..............if they are so good then why do all the professionals use the powerglide or the 400? (reliabilty) i did not say that it wouldnt hold it and would not work however there is the reliabilty factor with my 434 i have never broken a 400.....furthermore i would not build a 4l60e for something like that because i am not messing with that thing every 6 months for warranty work. in my 400 i have 8 clutches in the direct drum 4 in the intermediate and 6 in the forward and it will not give any. and i dont have to worry about it breaking when i floor it

02 Pewter LS1
06-14-2006, 01:00 PM
For a full out racecar I would agree with you Predator T/A the 400 would be a better choice to build. If I get real serious with my car I will make it lighter then put a 400 in it with a tranny brake then get serious.

But if you only take your car to the track from time to time a built 4L60E will do just fine. Besides I like driving my car on the highway getting 24mpg. :)

Predator T/A
06-14-2006, 01:22 PM
For a full out racecar I would agree with you Predator T/A the 400 would be a better choice to build. If I get real serious with my car I will make it lighter then put a 400 in it with a tranny brake then get serious.

But if you only take your car to the track from time to time a built 4L60E will do just fine. Besides I like driving my car on the highway getting 24mpg. :)
and with someone that has 700 rwhp which means close to 780 bhp i would consider that a race car......i would not drive it on the street unless that is with spray..........and i completely agree that 700 hp 4l60 cant be built for 850 well yes in parts in can but not labor also....but i build 4l60e for myself and i am only puting down about 420 right now on my 94 and my 01 is stock but i am getting ready to spray my 94 and i am going th400 and i can build it to hold that power for about 600 out the door not 2500 to 3000

ChevPower
06-14-2006, 10:32 PM
and with someone that has 700 rwhp which means close to 780 bhp i would consider that a race car......i would not drive it on the street unless that is with spray..........and i completely agree that 700 hp 4l60 cant be built for 850 well yes in parts in can but not labor also....but i build 4l60e for myself and i am only puting down about 420 right now on my 94 and my 01 is stock but i am getting ready to spray my 94 and i am going th400 and i can build it to hold that power for about 600 out the door not 2500 to 3000

My car is a DAILY DRIVER and that see's the track every week when is possible I also drive it to other tracks as BMP=100mile each way and Gainsville=135 miles each way so OVERDRIVE is a must I will not drive a car at 3500rpm at 55-60 mph for 1hour+ so a 3speed is out of the question for now although I know its stronger and will last longer but again its not a trailer queen, I also know that i could do a 400 with an overdrive unit or a 4l80 but the car already weigh's near 3700 race trim with out a cage so i have chosen to stay away of more weight for now,
If my car was a trailer queen and it will never be it would have a th400 or a glide
850 sounds close to a parts build for a good 4l60e I only said somthing because i was thinking he was asking for a rebuild to handle 600hp and you said you could do it for 850 or so i wasnt tring to bust your balls

ChevPower
06-14-2006, 11:03 PM
all i can say is if i were braket racing/drag racing i doubt very seriously i would be running a 4l60e and as you said it has broken and it will again..............if they are so good then why do all the professionals use the powerglide or the 400? (reliabilty) i did not say that it wouldnt hold it and would not work however there is the reliabilty factor with my 434 i have never broken a 400.....furthermore i would not build a 4l60e for something like that because i am not messing with that thing every 6 months for warranty work. in my 400 i have 8 clutches in the direct drum 4 in the intermediate and 6 in the forward and it will not give any. and i dont have to worry about it breaking when i floor it
There was a time and not long ago my car seen near 500 miles a week and at near 500rwhp it got 14mpg could you amagine that with a th400 :jest:
Yes my 4l60e will break again but with that being said i think i put a 4l60 through more hell than anyone, My car with my wife driving is 3680 pounds and it cuts low 1.30's 60ft on every hooking pass, I spray a 2kit set up from between 200hp to 350hp for now through the shifts, almost 3 years ago i had clutch problems it was just time learning what clutches worked the best but sense then and over 2.5 years i have had no clutch failure in fact in the last 2.5 years i have broken 2 foward sprags due to a 10bolt rear going south twice before i got the 12bolt, 2 pumps that was my fault and one out put shaft. For a car that has made as many passes as mine and runs the bottom 6's with a best of 6.022 in the 1/8 mile a see know reason to drop the 4l60 yet, within the next month i will be replacing the heads and studs to up the n20 shot into the 400's that will be well over 800rwhp through a 4l60e :)
And for the record i had a 66 chevyII with a 434 smallblock witha lot of spray it broke 2 th400 and 1 glide car would run 5.50's 1/8 mile all night, Im just stating that even the big tranny's break

Predator T/A
06-15-2006, 11:42 AM
i agree i fraggged the bellhousing with my 434 launched at 4500 and all hell broke loose......the only thing i say in this whole thread eeryone builds ther trannies different my mentor right now that i call for help worked with Lingenfelter in the 80s Duane Watson and he is who i take my advice from......i now what i can buiuld them for and i guess maybe i am not skilled enough yet for a 4l60e 700hp but i am definatley going into the lab to experiment but again the parts are limited until you can get rid of that raggedy sunshell even the "beast" i have seen shatter

leftme4dead
06-16-2006, 11:55 AM
Since you guys are talking about all this hp and stuff, and the 4l60e not being sufficient enough usually.

I have a question. Is it the actual hp that breaks the tranny, or is it hooking with the hp?

Im wondering because if I have a 600rwhp car, and I run at the track, is it going to break because of the power the tranny is handling, or is it because the car is hooking and all that power is reaching the ground. I plan to be running on street tires for a long while. Im sure the day will come when im tired of not getting any traction and I start going dr's etc.. but for now when the turbo goes in, its street tires.

Predator T/A
06-16-2006, 01:43 PM
well it is actually the torque that does it and then hooking up......usually the sunshell and front sun gear will frag and then the rear planet or the output shaft.....they make a stronger sunshell called the "beast" its like 60 bucks and 5 or 6 pinion planets....i agree that they can be built to handle the power but its just way to much money when i could build a th 400 to handle 1000 hp for around 600

gator's 99TA
06-16-2006, 06:45 PM
torque breaks mechanical parts. never "horsepower" as that is a measure of acceleration.

ChevPower
06-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Since you guys are talking about all this hp and stuff, and the 4l60e not being sufficient enough usually.

I have a question. Is it the actual hp that breaks the tranny, or is it hooking with the hp?

Im wondering because if I have a 600rwhp car, and I run at the track, is it going to break because of the power the tranny is handling, or is it because the car is hooking and all that power is reaching the ground. I plan to be running on street tires for a long while. Im sure the day will come when im tired of not getting any traction and I start going dr's etc.. but for now when the turbo goes in, its street tires.


Dead hooking and a good tight converter will find the weak spots and the 4l60e has a few of them but the sunshell, planets all of these things can be built to handle the TQ they are not as weak as alot of people make them out to be it just takes a few more things that have to be done to them to make them stronger, The beast is no where near the best shell out there, but really the shell, planets, input and out put shafts are the EASY thing to fix, most of the time these parts are not the issue in tranny failure,
With 600hp and street tires the biggest issue is getting the 3rd/4th pack to live on 2nd to 3rd shifts, If the tranny isnt built right this will be your biggest prob on street tires.

Drive your car around in 3rd every where you go for the next 2 weeks if you can handle that by a built th400 it will only be slightly worse due to know converter lock up but if you cant take it like me :) find a good guy or shop that know's the 4l60e and theres only a hand full of them. 600hp is a walk in the park with a 4l60e IMO