Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
#1
LS1TECH Sponsor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
I'm doing a LS1 swap into my 97 V6 firebird and am researching gauge clusters... which one to go with.
I know there are 3 different ones available, 98, 99, and 00-02. They are not interchangeable.
Does anyone know the difference between these 3?
If anyone has wiring pinouts that would be great as well.
Also, I know 00-02 models seem to have slow tachs and funky coolant readings.. seems to be a very common problem on all f-bodies. Do the 98 and 99 clusters share this same problem?
Thanks.
I know there are 3 different ones available, 98, 99, and 00-02. They are not interchangeable.
Does anyone know the difference between these 3?
If anyone has wiring pinouts that would be great as well.
Also, I know 00-02 models seem to have slow tachs and funky coolant readings.. seems to be a very common problem on all f-bodies. Do the 98 and 99 clusters share this same problem?
Thanks.
#2
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: arkansas
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
My 98 tach is about 200 rpm higher than the actual engine speed. The 98's have a better water temp gauge than later years.
The only difference I've found in layouts is that 98 and I believe 99 as well have the small icons representing the guages above and in the corner relative to the guage. The 00+ have it centered below.
The only difference I've found in layouts is that 98 and I believe 99 as well have the small icons representing the guages above and in the corner relative to the guage. The 00+ have it centered below.
#3
LS1TECH Sponsor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
Didn't the gauge cluster switch from a coolant temp sensor reading in 98 to a PCM temp reading in 99+?
What other differences are there?
How about tach update speed? My 97 V6 tach is DAMN responsive where as most 00+ V6 tachs are lagged.
What other differences are there?
How about tach update speed? My 97 V6 tach is DAMN responsive where as most 00+ V6 tachs are lagged.
#4
LS1TECH Sponsor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
99 was the year coolant temp was switched from sensor input to PCM input...
What are the other differences?
Thanks for the reply Chris. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
What are the other differences?
Thanks for the reply Chris. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
#5
Launching!
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Neshanic Station, NJ
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
Hey Keith!
I don't know the exact differences, but maybe I can add one or two things <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> . The temp was good on 98's, everything above is set to read the same value for a wide range (dummy gauge). The tach in my 2002 was fine (not slow at all) until I changed the gears from 3.42's to 4.10's in which now the update speed is incredibly slow in 1st gear (a little slow in 2nd, after that ok). I was hitting the rev limiter at points when the tach was only reading 5,000 rpms!!
Chris
I don't know the exact differences, but maybe I can add one or two things <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> . The temp was good on 98's, everything above is set to read the same value for a wide range (dummy gauge). The tach in my 2002 was fine (not slow at all) until I changed the gears from 3.42's to 4.10's in which now the update speed is incredibly slow in 1st gear (a little slow in 2nd, after that ok). I was hitting the rev limiter at points when the tach was only reading 5,000 rpms!!
Chris
#6
LS1TECH Sponsor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
Another question...
What are the differences between the digital 97 LT1 cluster and the 98 LS1 cluster?
Maybe I'll just use a 97 cluster for my ls1 engine swap for ease.
What are the differences between the digital 97 LT1 cluster and the 98 LS1 cluster?
Maybe I'll just use a 97 cluster for my ls1 engine swap for ease.
#7
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Springfield, IL
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Difference between dash gauge clusters 98, 99, and 00-02
I think the 97 & 98 gauge clusters are the same? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> I know most vendor sites have them grouped together for sure anyway.
For instance:
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/GM200MPH.HTM
For instance:
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/GM200MPH.HTM