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06-27-2006, 12:32 PM
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800RWHP? Motorheads Enter! ok, so im really bored and i have alot on my mind as i wait for my new low compression 403ci iron block to arrive. im wondering to myself, what kind of power will i make, what is safe, and what do i need to do to prepare for and support such a high horsepower setup. My buildup is as follows...
Engine:
403ci iron block
custom ceramic coated diamond pistons
eagle crank
scat rods
230/236 cam @115LSA .600"
ETP 245cc Heads
Stock intake Manifold
Stock t-body
Forced Induction:
F1-R procharger
7.00" Crank to a 4.5" blower pully
5.4:1 step up ratio
FMIC from Procharger D1SC Kit
Custom Twin Nozzle Methanol Injection
Fuel system:
Race Fuel Cell
Twin -8AN feed lines to the pump
Aeromotive A1000 pump
-10AN Supply line
custom rails
75lb rc inj
aeromitive boost referenced regulator
what do you think? have i covered every angle appropriately or are their aspects of this build that i need to rethink? what kind of power will i make with the methanol injection and a conservative tune? thanks everyone
Engine:
403ci iron block
custom ceramic coated diamond pistons
eagle crank
scat rods
230/236 cam @115LSA .600"
ETP 245cc Heads
Stock intake Manifold
Stock t-body
Forced Induction:
F1-R procharger
7.00" Crank to a 4.5" blower pully
5.4:1 step up ratio
FMIC from Procharger D1SC Kit
Custom Twin Nozzle Methanol Injection
Fuel system:
Race Fuel Cell
Twin -8AN feed lines to the pump
Aeromotive A1000 pump
-10AN Supply line
custom rails
75lb rc inj
aeromitive boost referenced regulator
what do you think? have i covered every angle appropriately or are their aspects of this build that i need to rethink? what kind of power will i make with the methanol injection and a conservative tune? thanks everyone
06-27-2006, 03:55 PM
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The pump will handle the power without problem. I am running it at 800+ rwhp. I run to 7000 rpm right now and can still richen it as much as I want. Don't worry about the pump unless you someday want to make 900 or more.
You will need bigger injectors for sure. 96lb will be perfect!
Scrap the Meth idea, not needed, just another thing to break.
You will need bigger injectors for sure. 96lb will be perfect!
Scrap the Meth idea, not needed, just another thing to break.
06-27-2006, 05:45 PM
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the motor will not be allowed to spin faster the 6400rpm, i will have my fuel pressure set at 70 psi so 800rwhp should not be a problem for the 75lbs injectors right? will scat rods and an eagle crank be sufficient for handling this much power?
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
The pump will handle the power without problem. I am running it at 800+ rwhp. I run to 7000 rpm right now and can still richen it as much as I want. Don't worry about the pump unless you someday want to make 900 or more.
You will need bigger injectors for sure. 96lb will be perfect!
Scrap the Meth idea, not needed, just another thing to break.
You will need bigger injectors for sure. 96lb will be perfect!
Scrap the Meth idea, not needed, just another thing to break.
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Why????????
If it pumps the fuel it pumps the fuel! It does not hurt the pump, It actually helps the pump by not having to run so hot.
Plain and simple, it if pumps enough fuel it is adequate. I run 96 lb injectors with 45 psi fuel pressure.
If you want more pump, then buy more pump, I am just saying my combo, and that it pumps more then enough fuel for 800+ rwhp. Brian ran one on his 427 with 844 rwhp and had no problems whatsoever. Has anyone has a problem feeding 800+ rwhp with an A1000??
Ratings are always underestimated.
If it pumps the fuel it pumps the fuel! It does not hurt the pump, It actually helps the pump by not having to run so hot.
Plain and simple, it if pumps enough fuel it is adequate. I run 96 lb injectors with 45 psi fuel pressure.
If you want more pump, then buy more pump, I am just saying my combo, and that it pumps more then enough fuel for 800+ rwhp. Brian ran one on his 427 with 844 rwhp and had no problems whatsoever. Has anyone has a problem feeding 800+ rwhp with an A1000??
Ratings are always underestimated.
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
Why????????
If it pumps the fuel it pumps the fuel! It does not hurt the pump, It actually helps the pump by not having to run so hot.
Plain and simple, it if pumps enough fuel it is adequate. I run 96 lb injectors with 45 psi fuel pressure.
If you want more pump, then buy more pump, I am just saying my combo, and that it pumps more then enough fuel for 800+ rwhp. Brian ran one on his 427 with 844 rwhp and had no problems whatsoever. Has anyone has a problem feeding 800+ rwhp with an A1000??
Ratings are always underestimated.
If it pumps the fuel it pumps the fuel! It does not hurt the pump, It actually helps the pump by not having to run so hot.
Plain and simple, it if pumps enough fuel it is adequate. I run 96 lb injectors with 45 psi fuel pressure.
If you want more pump, then buy more pump, I am just saying my combo, and that it pumps more then enough fuel for 800+ rwhp. Brian ran one on his 427 with 844 rwhp and had no problems whatsoever. Has anyone has a problem feeding 800+ rwhp with an A1000??
Ratings are always underestimated.
I'm not curious enough to keep my second pump off under boost and find out
06-27-2006, 11:36 PM
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1st - turbo verus blower at 800 RWHP is not the same crank power. adjust gross power output by a 100+ HP minimum.
2nd - if base pressure is indeed 70, using a 1:1 rising rate regulator and enough boost to actually get to 800 RWHP (probably over 1k crank) that pump will long run out of steam if it makes the required pressure at all.
2nd - if base pressure is indeed 70, using a 1:1 rising rate regulator and enough boost to actually get to 800 RWHP (probably over 1k crank) that pump will long run out of steam if it makes the required pressure at all.
06-27-2006, 11:42 PM
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I had to check....
A1000 is suppose to flow about 400 lb/hr at 70 psi, even if the base is 50 and you get 70 with ~20 or so boost to get to 800 rwhp, an optimistic estimate puts that at 800 HP crank. It's probably more like 730'ish.
with enough pump the 75's should get you close to 1k crank, but that's static flow. the low RPM will save you on injector sizing, but you're really going to have to work for the power without some RPM.
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A1000 is suppose to flow about 400 lb/hr at 70 psi, even if the base is 50 and you get 70 with ~20 or so boost to get to 800 rwhp, an optimistic estimate puts that at 800 HP crank. It's probably more like 730'ish.
with enough pump the 75's should get you close to 1k crank, but that's static flow. the low RPM will save you on injector sizing, but you're really going to have to work for the power without some RPM.
my .02
06-28-2006, 10:37 AM
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Wouldn't be a bad idea, I got the lunati pro mod I-beams (900hp), couldn't pass it up since they're over 120g lighter than the H-beams that weren't rated that high. With as much power as you're wanting to run you're going to need some damn good parts.